The U.S.A. in 2041

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Greetings:

As part of a new story I’m working on, I’ve come up with several thoughts about this thread title. They are grouped in four categories as best I could. Anyone have feedback or thoughts about my predictions? Any to add? Agree or disagree? Positive or negative for the nation/world?

Thank you in advance for any and all responses.

What will be different 30 years from now in America?

Political
  • The government now control & tax Internet usage with government registered email & IP addresses.
  • A national sales tax has been imposed
  • The differences between the two major political parties is minimal
  • Certain animals are given the same rights as people
  • Americans have given-up their right to “real” firearms; they can now only have a taser gun for self-protection

    Economic
  • The big Internet companies compile complete digital dossiers on everyone and sell to whomever they want. Governments are big customers
  • If you live where there’s public transportation available, it is very expensive to own and operate a private auto
  • Micro-chipping of individuals has become commonplace as such people are given favored status by businesses and governments for doing so; for criminals and perceived “threats” it is not an option

    Social
  • The social focus is on equality
  • The differences between the sexes is socially (and officially) ignored; gender is irrelevant in all aspects of life
  • Non-profit volunteer participation has dropped to very low levels as everyone looks now to the government for help and assistance
  • Women having babies has dropped substantially and the traditional family is uncommon as the new generation embraces narcissism
  • People have come to expect the government to solve all their problems; they look for hand-outs and entitlements
  • The idea of “marriage” has been redefined; you marry who or what you want
  • Homosexuality is openly displayed and advertised as a viable option
  • Pornography’s restrictions have been removed
  • Marijuana is legal
  • Christmas is now called “Givemas”
  • Healthcare is rationed and severely discriminates against the aged and disabled
  • Euthanasia is legal
  • Designer babies are available and are big business
  • Overweight people are forced to exercise and are fined until they reach their “proper” weight
  • “Junk” food is outlawed

    Spiritual
  • The prevailing philosophy is Absolute Relativism; Good vs. Evil has been discarded as primitive
  • Catholicism has been ruled a “philosophy of hate” and is illegal to be publicly practiced or endorsed
 
Unfortunately, I think you are more correct than not. The only thing (seriously) that I would consider is the possiblity of an armed revolution in this country between various groups. Since I probably won’t be here in '41, maybe I’ll have a “box seat” in the sky to watch the goings on.
 
I disagree with some/most, but agree with other parts. I agree with most of the social, a little of the economic, part of the political, and part of the spiritual. I think you’re theories are more for in the next 80 years, not 30.

I;ll specify on 2 thing: I think that the GOP and DNC will split even further apart as the Tea Party will dominate the GOP and the DNC go even farther left. However, the DNC will be near a schism because the ultra-liberals will want to carry on their agenda, but semi-liberal moderates will want to stay nearer to center and will be fed up with the rest of the DNC. For the spiritual: I don’t think that Catholicism will be banned. I think that atheism/agnostic beliefs will be encouraged, and if not accepted a turn to paganism/New Age or Islam. Christianity as a whole will be discouraged - minus a few ultra-liberal “Christian” groups; but because of freedom of religion Christianity will continue.
 
here’s a few ideas I see:
  1. computer use will almost all be satellite cell phone based
  2. The Catholic Church will be outlawed, worshippers will have to sneak around at the risk of arrest to celebrate mass. THis is a result of homosexual marriage being legalized and the Church’s stance to not perform marriages.
  3. people will reach an age where they will be put to death. Social Security is gone and no one will support the elderly since the Church has been outlawed.
  4. We will be in a constant state of War. weapons have been developed to attack certain people by their DNA.
  5. China, driven by demand for oil, will have taken control of the middle east and we are supporting them against terrorists attacks.
  6. Europe has become a Muslim State.
Hope I’m wrong!
 
I disagree with some/most, but agree with other parts. I agree with most of the social, a little of the economic, part of the political, and part of the spiritual. I think you’re theories are more for in the next 80 years, not 30.

I;ll specify on 2 thing: I think that the GOP and DNC will split even further apart as the Tea Party will dominate the GOP and the DNC go even farther left. However, the DNC will be near a schism because the ultra-liberals will want to carry on their agenda, but semi-liberal moderates will want to stay nearer to center and will be fed up with the rest of the DNC. For the spiritual: I don’t think that Catholicism will be banned. I think that atheism/agnostic beliefs will be encouraged, and if not accepted a turn to paganism/New Age or Islam. Christianity as a whole will be discouraged - minus a few ultra-liberal “Christian” groups; but because of freedom of religion Christianity will continue.
I agree with this!

Sadly most of the social aspects and the discouraging of Christian beliefs are already actively going on now. I can only imagine how bad it will end up getting in the future…
 
Fascinating thread. I will have more to say, but no time this morning. Keep those imaginations working, folks!
 
Greetings:

As part of a new story I’m working on, I’ve come up with several thoughts about this thread title. They are grouped in four categories as best I could. Anyone have feedback or thoughts about my predictions? Any to add? Agree or disagree? Positive or negative for the nation/world?

Thank you in advance for any and all responses.

What will be different 30 years from now in America?

Political
  • The government now control & tax Internet usage with government registered email & IP addresses.
  • A national sales tax has been imposed
  • The differences between the two major political parties is minimal
  • Certain animals are given the same rights as people
  • Americans have given-up their right to “real” firearms; they can now only have a taser gun for self-protection

    Economic
  • The big Internet companies compile complete digital dossiers on everyone and sell to whomever they want. Governments are big customers
  • If you live where there’s public transportation available, it is very expensive to own and operate a private auto
  • Micro-chipping of individuals has become commonplace as such people are given favored status by businesses and governments for doing so; for criminals and perceived “threats” it is not an option

    Social
  • The social focus is on equality
  • The differences between the sexes is socially (and officially) ignored; gender is irrelevant in all aspects of life
  • Non-profit volunteer participation has dropped to very low levels as everyone looks now to the government for help and assistance
  • Women having babies has dropped substantially and the traditional family is uncommon as the new generation embraces narcissism
  • People have come to expect the government to solve all their problems; they look for hand-outs and entitlements
  • The idea of “marriage” has been redefined; you marry who or what you want
  • Homosexuality is openly displayed and advertised as a viable option
  • Pornography’s restrictions have been removed
  • Marijuana is legal
  • Christmas is now called “Givemas”
  • Healthcare is rationed and severely discriminates against the aged and disabled
  • Euthanasia is legal
  • Designer babies are available and are big business
  • Overweight people are forced to exercise and are fined until they reach their “proper” weight
  • “Junk” food is outlawed

    Spiritual
  • The prevailing philosophy is Absolute Relativism; Good vs. Evil has been discarded as primitive
  • Catholicism has been ruled a “philosophy of hate” and is illegal to be publicly practiced or endorsed
The Bad:

China will be the world leader the US once was. US will be like the UK is now…still relevant but has to take a back seat to the more powerful economically stronger nations such as China and maybe Brazil. American standard of living will be drastically reduced of course. Christian religion will be tolerated as long as it’s practice is kept behind closed doors and not mentioned in public any other religion will ok. The birth rate will continue to decline due to the culture of death and the general self obsessed nature of our culture. Social Security will be fazed out. National Health care will become the norm and treatment will be hard to get with long waiting list for just the basics. The national debt will bankrupt the country. We will all be inserted with a microbe or chip that has all our medical records, tax and financial information on it.

The Good:

Technology will continue to improve with new gadgets and medical discoveries.
 
I don’t think the country we know as the United States of America will even exist. It’ll be a new entity called Mexamerianada.
 
(with apologies to Zager and Evans)

In the year 2525
If man is still alive
If woman can survive
They may find

In the year 3535
Ain’t gonna need to tell the truth, tell no lies
Everything you think, do, and say
Is in the pill you took today

In the year 4545
Ain’t gonna need your teeth, won’t need your eyes
You won’t find a thing chew
Nobody’s gonna look at you

In the year 5555
Your arms are hanging limp at your sides
Your legs got not nothing to do
Some machine is doing that for you

In the year 6565
Ain’t gonna need no husband, won’t need no wife
You’ll pick your son, pick your daughter too
From the bottom of a long glass tube

In the year 7510
If God’s a-comin’ he ought to make it by then
Maybe he’ll look around himself and say
Guess it’s time for the Judgement day

In the year 8510
God is gonna shake his mighty head
He’ll either say I’m pleased where man has been
Or tear it down and start again

In the year 9595
I’m kinda wondering if man is gonna be alive
He’s taken everything this old earth can give
And he ain’t put back nothing

Now it’s been 10,000 years
Man has cried a billion tears
For what he never knew
Now man’s reign is through
But through the eternal night
The twinkling of starlight
So very far away
Maybe it’s only yesterday
 
here’s a few ideas I see:
  1. people will reach an age where they will be put to death.
Hope I’m wrong!
Your #3 reminds me of a movie from the '70’s called Logan’s Run. In that movie, people were required to die at age 30. Personally, I don’t see things going to that extreme in the next 30 years…but our elders will be significantly marginalized as their “value”, when put into some kind of social cost/benefit calculation, will not favor services for them at all.

I’ve not had any thoughts myself about education, whether at the grade school level or college. Anyone out there see any trends in that area?

Thanks for all the responses.
 
Your #3 reminds me of a movie from the '70’s called Logan’s Run. In that movie, people were required to die at age 30. Personally, I don’t see things going to that extreme in the next 30 years…but our elders will be significantly marginalized as their “value”, when put into some kind of social cost/benefit calculation, will not favor services for them at all.

I’ve not had any thoughts myself about education, whether at the grade school level or college. Anyone out there see any trends in that area?

Thanks for all the responses.
Higher Education will be available only to the rich. :mad:
 
Homeschooling will be heavily regulated in all states, with the state checking in for proof that children are being taught things like homosexuality is acceptable and normal, no religion is more true than another, and other relevant social issues of the day… If no sufficient proof is given, the children will be forced into the public school system, and parents will have to go to sensitivity training or go to jail.

Private schools will be made public.

Mandatory school age will be 2-22. College will be morphed into the mandatory public school system, paid for with much higher taxes, because America will be trying desperately to keep up with China in intelligence and learning. It will also be very helpful for complete indocrination.

There won’t be school boards; the school system will be dictated directly from a board appointed by the federal government
 
Private schools will be made public.
This is an interesting thought as the banning of Catholicism will have such institutions close-down. No more Catholic schools, universities, or charitable organizations such as Catholic Charities (which by the way, is already being shut-down in some states due to mandated adoption policies that aim to undermine the traditional family).
 
Your #3 reminds me of a movie from the '70’s called Logan’s Run. In that movie, people were required to die at age 30. Personally, I don’t see things going to that extreme in the next 30 years….but our elders will be significantly marginalized as their “value”, when put into some kind of social cost/benefit calculation, will not favor services for them at all.

I’ve not had any thoughts myself about education, whether at the grade school level or college. Anyone out there see any trends in that area?

Thanks for all the responses.
Already happens in countries with socialized medicine, just not openly. Happens here, to some extent. Doctors know what they can and can’t ask of the government to treat Grandma, and they know Grandma doesn’t have the money, so…

So are you writing a dystopian novel, or what?
 
This is an interesting thought as the banning of Catholicism will have such institutions close-down. No more Catholic schools, universities, or charitable organizations such as Catholic Charities (which by the way, is already being shut-down in some states due to mandated adoption policies that aim to undermine the traditional family).
And did you hear about the British ruling that a Christian couple was unfit to adopt a child because they would not agree to teach the adopted child that homosexuality is a good and acceptable lifestyle?

It amazes me that this kind of thing is already happening. I’m wondering if we’re even underestimating the changes that will have arrived by 2041… Each decade we progress/deteriorate at a much faster rate than the previous decade.

For instance, since the above example already happened, how long do you think it will take for the government to say parents are unfit to raise their own biological children if they don’t agree to teach them homosexuality is right? It’s not a very long stretch…

Scary.
 
Political
  • The government now control & tax Internet usage with government registered email & IP addresses.
  • A national sales tax has been imposed
  • The differences between the two major political parties is minimal
  • Certain animals are given the same rights as people
  • Americans have given-up their right to “real” firearms; they can now only have a taser gun for self-protection
Will NEVER happen.
 
Greetings:

As part of a new story I’m working on, I’ve come up with several thoughts about this thread title. They are grouped in four categories as best I could. Anyone have feedback or thoughts about my predictions? Any to add? Agree or disagree? Positive or negative for the nation/world?

Thank you in advance for any and all responses.

What will be different 30 years from now in America?

Political
  • The government now control & tax Internet usage with government registered email & IP addresses.
  • A national sales tax has been imposed
  • The differences between the two major political parties is minimal
  • Certain animals are given the same rights as people
  • Americans have given-up their right to “real” firearms; they can now only have a taser gun for self-protection

    Economic
  • The big Internet companies compile complete digital dossiers on everyone and sell to whomever they want. Governments are big customers
  • If you live where there’s public transportation available, it is very expensive to own and operate a private auto
  • Micro-chipping of individuals has become commonplace as such people are given favored status by businesses and governments for doing so; for criminals and perceived “threats” it is not an option

    Social
  • The social focus is on equality
  • The differences between the sexes is socially (and officially) ignored; gender is irrelevant in all aspects of life
  • Non-profit volunteer participation has dropped to very low levels as everyone looks now to the government for help and assistance
  • Women having babies has dropped substantially and the traditional family is uncommon as the new generation embraces narcissism
  • People have come to expect the government to solve all their problems; they look for hand-outs and entitlements
  • The idea of “marriage” has been redefined; you marry who or what you want
  • Homosexuality is openly displayed and advertised as a viable option
  • Pornography’s restrictions have been removed
  • Marijuana is legal
  • Christmas is now called “Givemas”
  • Healthcare is rationed and severely discriminates against the aged and disabled
  • Euthanasia is legal
  • Designer babies are available and are big business
  • Overweight people are forced to exercise and are fined until they reach their “proper” weight
  • “Junk” food is outlawed

    Spiritual
  • The prevailing philosophy is Absolute Relativism; Good vs. Evil has been discarded as primitive
  • Catholicism has been ruled a “philosophy of hate” and is illegal to be publicly practiced or endorsed
I will be completely honest with you. I completely disagree with most of your points. You see, it is true that the way things are now with many secular people pushing their ideologies on our society, it is very likey that our future society may end up like this or even worse.

But I believe if more people actually stand up against these evil ideologies, then maybe we will be able to turn our society back to God. One must always remember that the future is unpredictable and anything can happen. We must always hold for the best and stand up against these people because if we don’t, only then they will change our society completely.
 
Homeschooling will be heavily regulated in all states, with the state checking in for proof that children are being taught things like homosexuality is acceptable and normal, no religion is more true than another, and other relevant social issues of the day… If no sufficient proof is given, the children will be forced into the public school system, and parents will have to go to sensitivity training or go to jail.

Private schools will be made public.

Mandatory school age will be 2-22. College will be morphed into the mandatory public school system, paid for with much higher taxes, because America will be trying desperately to keep up with China in intelligence and learning. It will also be very helpful for complete indocrination.

There won’t be school boards; the school system will be dictated directly from a board appointed by the federal government
This is nearly the situation in Sweden today. Get ready.
 
What will be different 30 years from now in America?

Political
The government now control & tax Internet usage with government registered email & IP addresses. No. This will not be the case. What will be ugly is that national media outlets outside of the internet will be owned by only three or four companies that will control the news.
A national sales tax has been imposed Yes, a VAT (Value Added Tax will be in place)
The differences between the two major political parties is minimal (The two party system will collapse on itself and we’ll have four of five political parties.
Certain animals are given the same rights as people No. Although there will be greater protections offered to animals found to have significant intelligence (orangutans, gorillas, chimps, dolphins, whales)
Americans have given-up their right to “real” firearms; they can now only have a taser gun for self-protection No, but the requirement to own, and carry, a firearm not used for hunting purposes will increase.
The United States military will shrink by about 30% and its presence in Europe will become negligible.
Social Security will become needs based.
New trade agreements will come into place that allow for regional work visas for U.S. citizens. These will allow U.S. citizens to move between the U.S. and other countries to pursue employment much easier
The MIddle East takes huge steps toward peace as the United States advances toward energy independence and the Middle East becomes irrelevant to us and Israel is forced to make concessions.
The office of Homeland Security, as we know it, is dissolved.

Economic
The big Internet companies compile complete digital dossiers on everyone and sell to whomever they want. Governments are big customers Actually, I think people are becoming more aware and concerend with privacy and this will not develop into the issue some believe.
If you live where there’s public transportation available, it is very expensive to own and operate a private auto Yes and no. Public transportation will play a much higher role as gasoline tops $10 a gallon minimum and significant spending is made to bring high speed rail to not only most major cities but also cross country rail will be in place
Micro-chipping of individuals has become commonplace as such people are given favored status by businesses and governments for doing so; for criminals and perceived “threats” it is not an option Perhaps. Children, criminals and those with dementia may very well be chipped so they can be tracked when lost. I don’t see chipping for other reasons as it’s too easy to have such info in cell phone, etc.
Banks will be highly regulated, interest rates for car, home, and credit cards will be set by the government
The windfall profit tax will come back
Corporate tax holidays are eliminated
The ability of U.S. companies to hide profits with offshore subsidiaries and keep from paying U.S. taxes will be eliminated

Social
The social focus is on equality
The differences between the sexes is socially (and officially) ignored; gender is irrelevant in all aspects of life In many aspects, yes. In all aspects, no
Non-profit volunteer participation has dropped to very low levels as everyone looks now to the government for help and assistance I suspect this will actually increase. It will become part of school requirements etc.
Women having babies has dropped substantially and the traditional family is uncommon as the new generation embraces narcissism No. The family will exist. The “traditional” may not be as common as it once was, but it will be there. The family will be redefined in a way but it will be just as important as it is now.
People have come to expect the government to solve all their problems; they look for hand-outs and entitlements Actually, I think the government will do less of this in the future than ever. When it gets involved it will be “all in” and state’s will have little say in how things are handled.
The idea of “marriage” has been redefined; you marry who or what you want I see this as ridiculous. Yes, there will be gay marriage and I think people will be shocked there is very little notable change in society because of it. No church will be forced to perform gay marriage but may be forced to recognize it in some ways
Homosexuality is openly displayed and advertised as a viable option
Pornography’s restrictions have been removed NO, although there will be more use of virtual porn. That is the people one sees in porn are not real but CGI
Marijuana is legal Yes, this will happen
Christmas is now called “Givemas” No.
Healthcare is rationed and severely discriminates against the aged and disabled No, this will not happen. I see healthcare as more available in the future but end of life decisions will be on the agenda. This will become an issue only for those who have no family and have made no decisions in advance.
Euthanasia is legal Yes, it will be. What will be even more used is assisted suicide.
Designer babies are available and are big business No
Overweight people are forced to exercise and are fined until they reach their “proper” weight No
“Junk” food is outlawed No
Stem cell treatment ends type 1 diabetes, parkinson’s disease, and a number of other ailments
College will take 6 years and highschool will add a year

Spiritual
The prevailing philosophy is Absolute Relativism; Good vs. Evil has been discarded as primitive
Catholicism has been ruled a “philosophy of hate” and is illegal to be publicly practiced or endorsed No, I predict that the Catholic Church’s numbers in the United States will increase for the next 10-20 years and then drop drastically over the following 25-30 years and there will no longer be a diplomatic relationship between the Vatican and the U.S.
The number of atheists increases by about 5% per decade.
Secular moralism becomes more the norm
 
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