The US Border wall

[stinkcat_14]

I fully support the border wall. It is well within Catholic teaching to build this very big and beautiful wall.

I have no problem with a border wall, as long as Mexico is paying for it. Telling the truth is also consistent with Catholic teaching.

 

[Theo520]

I have no problem with a border wall, as long as Mexico is paying for it. Telling the truth is also consistent with Catholic teaching.

News flash,
We don’t always get want we want, but sometimes we get what we need.

In this case, we are settling for a US funded border wall enhancement.

 

[stinkcat_14]

News flash,

We don’t always get want we want, but sometimes we get what we need.

In this case, we are settling for a US funded border wall enhancement.

When it comes to the government, we rarely get what we need. Perhaps if Trump is not going to stick to his promise that Mexico was going to pay for the wall, then Trump supporters should pay for it voluntarily out of their own pockets.

 

[Theo520]

When it comes to the government, we rarely get what we need. Perhaps if Trump is not going to stick to his promise that Mexico was going to pay for the wall, then Trump supporters should pay for it voluntarily out of their own pockets.

We’ll settle for the Dem strategy and let taxes pay for it.
Border protection is actually a mandated responsibility of the Feds, so I don’t mind.

 

[stinkcat_14]

We’ll settle for the Dem strategy and let taxes pay for it.

Border protection is actually a mandated responsibility of the Feds, so I don’t mind.

Which taxes are going to be raised to pay for the wall?

 

[Theo520]

Which taxes are going to be raised to pay for the wall?

Your taxes specifically, I’ve asked my congressperson to add it as a rider.

 

[stinkcat_14]

Your taxes specifically, I’ve asked my congressperson to add it as a rider.

Obviously, the ideal tax is always on someone else. Why do you think republicans love to leave future generations with our current tax bills?

 

[Theo520]

Obviously, the ideal tax is always on someone else. Why do you think republicans love to leave future generations with our current tax bills?

Leaving the bill for future generations is very bi-partisan.

The cost of the border wall is fairly inconsequential as these things go, cost will be nowhere near the orginial DEM doom and gloom predictions. Think of it as a WPA make work public works project.

 

[stinkcat_14]

The cost of the border wall is fairly inconsequential as these things go, cost will be nowhere near the orginial DEM doom and gloom predictions. Think of it as a WPA make work public works project.

If the cost was inconsequential, then why did Donald promise that Mexico would pay for it?

 

[Theo520]

If the cost was inconsequential, then why did Donald promise that Mexico would pay for it?

“the cost of the border wall is fairly inconsequential as these things go”

If you disagree with what I said, explain yourself. I’m not DJT nor his rep.

For comparison the CA rail project is approaching 100b, but the speed is still slow speed.

 

[guanophore]

I said google them Its not difficult.At any rate I make a comment about Mark Z and all the usual suspects turn this particular thread into a commentEy about whether he actually is or isn’t for open borders.

A “google” has not been able to confirm your assertion.

Think of it as a WPA make work public works project.

I think this would be great, but more likely, it will go to privateers who have been Trump supporters and are able to benefit from multi-million dollar tax funded skimmings.

 

[Theo520]

I think this would be great, but more likely, it will go to privateers who have been Trump supporters and are able to benefit from multi-million dollar tax funded skimmings.

The private contractors must adhere to all the standard govt contracting rules in place to ensure we get most of what we pay for. POTUS is not involved in the selection and contract terms.

 

[TheNoseKnows]

I don’t know, but I suppose that she might be open to trained security guards carrying weapons to protect anyone under threat, or perhaps anyone in general.

Thats real nice but regular people can’t afford to have personal security, I like owning a gun because if my family is about to be harmed I can protect them and not wait for the police to maybe, arrive on time.

 

[dvdjs]

Thats real nice but regular people can’t afford to have personal security, I like owning a gun because if my family is about to be harmed I can protect them and not wait for the police to maybe, arrive on time.

If don’t have an issue with your gun ownership, provided that you are competent and responsible. I did take issues with the gratuitous charge of hypocrisy, which my post was aimed to dispel.

 

[Ridgerunner]

When it comes to the government, we rarely get what we need. Perhaps if Trump is not going to stick to his promise that Mexico was going to pay for the wall, then Trump supporters should pay for it voluntarily out of their own pockets.

Ha! Give me the chance!

Who pays for it now doesn’t determine who pays for it in the future. The taxes alone on the reduction in drug money transfer would probably pay a big part of it.

But even if it was never paid for by Mexico, I would voluntarily pay if it was possible.

 

[guanophore]

One of the hallmarks of a false assertion.

 

[Theo520]

a! Give me the chance!

Who pays for it now doesn’t determine who pays for it in the future. The taxes alone on the reduction in drug money transfer would probably pay a big part of it.

But even if it was never paid for by Mexico, I would voluntarily pay if it was possible.

I think we will start to see significant savings in services and and programs that support illegal families. It will come from broadly enforcing immigration laws and not just a wall though. A wall by itself isn’t enough. Both State and Feds should see savings.

 

[Jeanne_S]

My comments were not false assertions.What is apparent is those of you calling me out on this obviously do t like the sources ( which are many) therefore they are not valid in your biased point of view.The continued dialogue between all of you with the snarky comments about me are very petty and passive aggressive.

 

[guanophore]

My comments were not false assertions.What is apparent is those of you calling me out on this obviously do t like the sources ( which are many) therefore they are not valid in your biased point of view.The continued dialogue between all of you with the snarky comments about me are very petty and passive aggressive.

It is not petty and aggressive to ask that a poster making an assertion to provide some support.

 

[Theo520]

It is not petty and aggressive to ask that a poster making an assertion to provide some support.

Sometimes it actually is, all depends on the details. I’ve noticed some repeatedly use this tactic as a deflection rather than a sincere request for source material. And some times an opinion is expressed, take it or leave it as their opinion.