The US Church releases first video on Catholic social teaching

[gilliam]

Catholic Relief Services and the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops have released “Care for God’s Creation,” the first of a seven-part video series on Catholic social teaching, the body of moral and social thought central to the Catholic faith.

The release comes in conjunction with Pope Francis’ declaration of Sept. 1 as Care for Creation day.

Video here
cruxnow.com/church/2015/08/31/the-us-church-releases-first-video-on-catholic-social-teaching/

 

[Stylteralmaldo]

The message I got out of the video is that lack of recycling causes climate change.

 

[Sy_Noe]

The message I got out of the video is that lack of recycling causes climate change.

I take this to mean you don’t like the climate change part of the faith’s total package?

Cardinal Wuerl: “I think he probably recognizes, as popes have always had to recognize, certainly as we bishops have to recognize, there are those who take part of what we say and there are others that take another part of what we say. But we have to keep saying the whole package. We have to keep delivering the entire package. I think that’s what the pope does. And he takes joy in it when you see him delivering a talk, a homily, you see him in the midst of people, he takes great joy in representing the whole faith, the whole package. But there will always be some discussion among people what part they like best and for some, what part they’re going to accept. But the obligation on all of us, if we’re true members of the church and true followers of the Lord, then we take the Lord’s message even when there are parts of it we’re uncomfortable with.”

foxnews.com/transcript/2015/06/21/cardinal-donald-wuerl-on-pope-climate-change-message-can-rick-perry-escape/

 

[zz912]

Listening to “Catholic” Relief Services expound about Catholic teaching is a bad idea. How many times do they have to be caught promoting contraception, abortion and other intrinsic evils in the poor countries of the world?

They would get more people to listen to them if they chose not to make the video political. But they did, and I’m not surprised.

 

[Elizium23]

I take this to mean you don’t like the climate change part of the faith’s total package?

Climate change is not part of the faith. Responsible stewardship for all of creation is part of it, and it is something we are called to regardless of whether climate is changing, and whether it is warming or cooling. Those determinations are all in the realm of science, which religion rightfully recognizes as competent to judge matters of knowledge about the physical world.

 

[SMH_2015]

Listening to “Catholic” Relief Services expound about Catholic teaching is a bad idea. How many times do they have to be caught promoting contraception, abortion and other intrinsic evils in the poor countries of the world?

Huh. Kinda like “Catholic” universities teaching Catholicism…?

 

[sallybutler]

Listening to “Catholic” Relief Services expound about Catholic teaching is a bad idea. How many times do they have to be caught promoting contraception, abortion and other intrinsic evils in the poor countries of the world?

They would get more people to listen to them if they chose not to make the video political. But they did, and I’m not surprised.

Since they are the relief agency of the USCCB, I don’t think we should put quotes around parts of their name.

 

[sps49]

The video could have stood up well on it’s own without the controversial implication/accusation that humans are causing dangerous climate change, and that the poor suffer due humans negative effect on climate. Linking this issue to stewardship in a lockstep fashion stifles discourse on a still very much active debate.

 

[Sy_Noe]

Climate change is not part of the faith. Responsible stewardship for all of creation is part of it, and it is something we are called to regardless of whether climate is changing, and whether it is warming or cooling. Those determinations are all in the realm of science, which religion rightfully recognizes as competent to judge matters of knowledge about the physical world.

Yes I know that’s what is said by many here. I’m just not as certain the Pope or Cardinal Wuerl would agree.

Chris Wallace: Pope Francis puts this in the starkest terms. He says we’re turning our precious earth into, quote, “an immense pile of filth” and he says that much of it is because of human activity. And he basically says it’s a moral issue now.

Cardinal Wuerl: And it really is… I think these are the type of things the Holy Father is lifting up for us and saying, we need to look at this because there are human factors in all of these ecological disasters.

And then the Cardinal went on to speak those words he spoke of regarding the whole package.

But I’m not sure much is going to be resolved with a consensus on a lay internet forum anyway.

 

[zz912]

Yes I know that’s what is said by many here. I’m just not as certain the Pope or Cardinal Wuerl would agree.

Chris Wallace: Pope Francis puts this in the starkest terms. He says we’re turning our precious earth into, quote, “an immense pile of filth” and he says that much of it is because of human activity. And he basically says it’s a moral issue now.

Cardinal Wuerl: And it really is… I think these are the type of things the Holy Father is lifting up for us and saying, we need to look at this because there are human factors in all of these ecological disasters.

And then the Cardinal went on to speak those words he spoke of regarding the whole package.

But I’m not sure much is going to be resolved with a consensus on a lay internet forum anyway.

Is it your contention that when the Pope uses the phrase “immense pile of filth”, he’s referring to carbon dioxide?

 

[Sy_Noe]

Is it your contention that when the Pope uses the phrase “immense pile of filth”, he’s referring to carbon dioxide?

I suspect maybe the Holy Father will speak further on climate change and human activity as it relates to the Catholic faith on his trip to the US, along with speaking of other Catholic social justice teaching. Even though I do not adhere to the same faith as do you, it is exciting to see him coming to the states and meeting with our President and addressing our political leaders on both sides of the aisle. Wouldn’t you agree? I can only imagine how it must be for the faithful Catholic anticipating his visit. I wish him a fruitful stay.

 

[7_Sorrows]

I take this to mean you don’t like the climate change part of the faith’s total package?

Cardinal Wuerl: “I think he probably recognizes, as popes have always had to recognize, certainly as we bishops have to recognize, there are those who take part of what we say and there are others that take another part of what we say. But we have to keep saying the whole package. We have to keep delivering the entire package. I think that’s what the pope does. And he takes joy in it when you see him delivering a talk, a homily, you see him in the midst of people, he takes great joy in representing the whole faith, the whole package. But there will always be some discussion among people what part they like best and for some, what part they’re going to accept. But the obligation on all of us, if we’re true members of the church and true followers of the Lord, then we take the Lord’s message even when there are parts of it we’re uncomfortable with.”

foxnews.com/transcript/2015/06/21/cardinal-donald-wuerl-on-pope-climate-change-message-can-rick-perry-escape/

it seems like every thread of yours today I have read you have posted this quote by Cardinal Wuerl. I guess he is a new found hero to you.

 

[zz912]

I suspect maybe the Holy Father will speak further on climate change and human activity as it relates to the Catholic faith on his trip to the US, along with speaking of other Catholic social justice teaching. Even though I do not adhere to the same faith as do you, it is exciting to see him coming to the states and meeting with our President and addressing our political leaders on both sides of the aisle. Wouldn’t you agree? I can only imagine how it must be for the faithful Catholic anticipating his visit. I wish him a fruitful stay.

You avoided answering my question. Could you please answer it?

 

[Midwest88]

it seems like every thread of yours today I have read you have posted this quote by Cardinal Wuerl. I guess he is a new found hero to you.

Kinda like how same-sex “marriage” supporters tend to quote Fr. James Martin, SJ.

 

[zz912]

Kinda like how same-sex “marriage” supporters tend to quote Fr. James Martin, SJ.

The clergy (priests, bishops and even the pope) need to make sure their teaching and speech is clear. The time for speaking in vaguaries and muddied talk is done. Those who wish to ignore Church teaching grab on to these unclear statements and use them as justification for rejecting Church teaching.

(not saying the particular quote is unclear, just discussing in general the issue).

 

[ringil]

The clergy (priests, bishops and even the pope) need to make sure their teaching and speech is clear. The time for speaking in vaguaries and muddied talk is done. Those who wish to ignore Church teaching grab on to these unclear statements and use them as justification for rejecting Church teaching.

(not saying the particular quote is unclear, just discussing in general the issue).

You mean you only want for them to talk about abortion, same-sex marriage, and contraception?

Because, you know, everything else is just “prudential judgment”.

 

[Ridgerunner]

The message I got out of the video is that lack of recycling causes climate change.

I’ll listen to it sometime, but I sure hope that’s not what it says.

I’ll admit, a video series by CRS and USCCB on Catholic social teaching does not immediately inspire confidence. One would wish it would be on moral basics; say, from the Social Encyclicals and the longstanding teachings of the Church, because few have any inkling of either one. One fears, however, that it might be a rehash of Democrat talking points; something USCCB spokesmen are sometimes given to doing.

 

[zz912]

You mean you only want for them to talk about abortion, same-sex marriage, and contraception?

Because, you know, everything else is just “prudential judgment”.

You’ve beautifully crafted and slayed that strawman argument of yours. Congrats!

 

[ringil]

You’ve beautifully crafted and slayed that strawman argument of yours. Congrats!

Well when they talk about war, capital punishment, a living wage, the environment, torture, immigration, birthright status, economic inequality, that’s just their “prudential judgment”.

When they talk about abortion, same-sex marriage, and contraception- that’s doctrine so we better pay attention.

 

[Ridgerunner]

Well when they talk about war, capital punishment, a living wage, the environment, torture, immigration, birthright status, economic inequality, that’s just their “prudential judgment”.

When they talk about abortion, same-sex marriage, and contraception- that’s doctrine so we better pay attention.

Actually, you have stated it accurately. The Church does not say war, capital punishment, immigration, birthright status of economic inequality are intrinsic evils. The Church does not define a “living wage” or “torture”. Nor does the Church say the failure to enforce borders is an inherent evil. Never has the Church condemned “economic inequality.”

I haven’t yet listened to the film clip, but I’ll bet they don’t say it on that either.

But it does teach that abortion, same sex marriage and contraception are intrinsic evils. (among other things, of course)