The USCCB and Net Neutrality

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the article is spot on both

the bishops and net neutrality
 
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Basically it seems like the author doesn’t understand what net neutrality is and shouldn’t be commenting as this isn’t about the pipe from the IP provider to the user (where there are limits allowed) but deciding which content can go faster and slower from the supplier if they pay more to the provider.
 
Basically it seems like the author doesn’t understand what net neutrality is and shouldn’t be commenting as this isn’t about the pipe from the IP provider to the user (where there are limits allowed) but deciding which content can go faster and slower from the supplier if they pay more to the provider.
I particularly like this article because it raises several objections that I’ve been making for some time, especially at the end.

"The bishops have not spoken. What’s more, even if they did, this is beyond their competence. This is up to laymen to decide all on their own.

A few weeks ago, a reporter for lefty America Magazine pointed out, approvingly, that the USCCB has made something like 250 announcements in the past year. That is pretty much one for every working day. Have these folks every heard that less is more? Have they ever considered that some issues should be left alone? Are they at all concerned that commenting on so many issues will water down Catholic teaching on doctrinal issues?

I am sure that Bishop Christopher Coyne is a fine man. I presume he is an excellent bishop. But, with regard to “net neutrality,” Bishop Coyne is just another guy with an opinion."
 
I particularly like this article because it raises several objections that I’ve been making for some time, especially at the end.

"The bishops have not spoken. What’s more, even if they did, this is beyond their competence. This is up to laymen to decide all on their own.

A few weeks ago, a reporter for lefty America Magazine pointed out, approvingly, that the USCCB has made something like 250 announcements in the past year. That is pretty much one for every working day. Have these folks every heard that less is more? Have they ever considered that some issues should be left alone? Are they at all concerned that commenting on so many issues will water down Catholic teaching on doctrinal issues?

I am sure that Bishop Christopher Coyne is a fine man. I presume he is an excellent bishop. But, with regard to “net neutrality,” Bishop Coyne is just another guy with an opinion."
If the argument is ‘why are the bishops involved in this issue?’ then I tend to err on the side of the bishops knowing what they should be involved in. Some Catholics would just prefer that they speak only on a few issues, but their guidance is needed in many areas of modern life and I am happy they provide it.
 
If there was ever a issue that the Bishops should refrain from taking a position, it is net neutrality.
 
If the argument is ‘why are the bishops involved in this issue?’ then I tend to err on the side of the bishops knowing what they should be involved in. Some Catholics would just prefer that they speak only on a few issues, but their guidance is needed in many areas of modern life and I am happy they provide it.
This is an issue for the laity to decide. It really is inappropriate for the bishops to present their opinions on every political issue that arises. Where is the moral question in determining whether “net neutrality” as a policy is good or bad for the public?
 
If the argument is ‘why are the bishops involved in this issue?’ then I tend to err on the side of the bishops knowing what they should be involved in. Some Catholics would just prefer that they speak only on a few issues, but their guidance is needed in many areas of modern life and I am happy they provide it.
i don’t see any commentary by the apostles on how the romans should run their empire? they stuck to administering to their flock. we have enough issues within the church that needs attention.
 
This is an issue for the laity to decide. It really is inappropriate for the bishops to present their opinions on every political issue that arises. Where is the moral question in determining whether “net neutrality” as a policy is good or bad for the public?
It could limit access to information for the economically disadvantaged, causing greater wealth disparity and the injustices that come with that.
 
i don’t see any commentary by the apostles on how the romans should run their empire? they stuck to administering to their flock. we have enough issues within the church that needs attention.
I’m inclined to listen to the bishops and understand where they are coming from on issues, but if you want to ignore them, that is certainly your prerogative.
 
It could limit access to information for the economically disadvantaged, causing greater wealth disparity and the injustices that come with that.
is it any different when google pushes its politics on the poor by putting their agenda items first in the search results. is it any different when you tube demonetizes videos that don’t agree with their agenda?

google can indoctrinate the poor with its immoral agenda and the isp can slow them down. which is worse?

congress needs to fix both
 
It could limit access to information for the economically disadvantaged, causing greater wealth disparity and the injustices that come with that.
It might, then again it might not. If it was known for certain what would happen then taking sides would involve a moral choice, but since we can only presume to know what will happen - that is, take an educated guess - there is no moral distinction between the pro and anti positions. This is why it is inappropriate for the bishops to suggest one position is more moral than another. We’re not dealing with moral choices, only practical presumptions.
 
When Google has total control over access to information, then I will yearn for a return to the Dewey Decimal System and index cards, whereby I, and not a third party search engine, can determine my own search results.
 
If it was known for certain what would happen then taking sides would involve a moral choice,
we do know that google, twitter, you tube and facebook censor conservative items. has google ever had a christian themed title on their search page? speak to the truth of “the religion of peace” on any of them and see how fast your account gets suspended.

we know the tech companies push immoral agendas. the consumer needs true net neutrality. if it is legal it should be allowed.
 
When Google has total control over access to information, then I will yearn for a return to the Dewey Decimal System and index cards, whereby I, and not a third party search engine, can determine my own search results.
which search engine do you use?
 
which search engine do you use?
I use Google, but sometimes I use DuckDuckGo.com. When using Google I am always aware that they control what results I see. When searching for something that is foreign to the Google worldview, I often have to resort to strange tactics to find what I’m looking for. I never had that problem looking things up in the library with the index cards.

Apparently part of the Google algorithm has to do with how many other sites link to a page. What does that have to do with me finding what I want?
 
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which search engine do you use?
I use Google, but sometimes I use DuckDuckGo.com. When using Google I am always aware that they control what results I see. When searching for something that is foreign to the Google worldview, I often have to resort to strange tactics to find what I’m looking for. I never had that problem looking things up in the library with the index cards.

Apparently part of the Google algorithm has to do with how many other sites link to a page. What does that have to do with me finding what I want?
watch the results and you will see a bias. i looked up something St Paul said and found everything on the first page of results was articles explaining away the catholic interpretation of it. Hmmm

so i tried again with another saint and topic and found similar results.

i went back today and found similar results except today a catholic site was on the first page but i didn’t see what view they took.

catholic site does not always mean correct doctrine.

ymmv
I never had that problem looking things up in the library with the index cards.
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