The way people dress to Mass

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Nostradennis said:
Funerals and weddings are a more preeminent event than the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass?
Raise the bar and wear it to Church on Sunday.
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It seems to me that dressing in your ‘Sunday best’ is a great way to proclaim our belief in the Real Presence.
Forget about what anyone else is wearing. Just be sure that you are dressed up as best as possible to receive our Saviour!
Our priest (celebrating an OF Mass) used this as a teaching moment for the children being prepared for First Communion. One Sunday Father pointed out to the children that many (unfortunately not all) adults were dressed in their finest because they were about to receive Holy Communion.
 
Nostradennis said:
Not off base at all. In all the traditional circles that I know of women wearing slacks to Church would not get past the usher.

Really? Wow…you would turn someone away from Mass because they wore slacks???:(:(:(😦

This traditionalist forum is loaded, no dripping with non traditionalists from this web site. Very odd. Maybe we’re seen as some sort of conservative link to the “oppressive” Catholic past. There’s never any real curiosity as to what a traditionalist thinks but only an axe to grind.

Ya…some of them are Catholics who are learning…and don’t want the wrong Catholic view…you know…sin is ok…that type of thing so we look in here to try to get the true view however things get a little too radical in here in some respects. It seems like some think they might have a better view then Holy Mother Church.

I’m pretty familiar with all things traditional. You can ask me anything at anytime:thumbsup:
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Ok, I’m confused again…what sin is ok and who thinks they know better than the Church?
 
StTommyMore said:
This is your mistake. The Real Presence is not higher it is different. Jesus is present in the assembly, in the person of the priest, in the reading of the Word, and on the altar.
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Q. 870. What is the Holy Eucharist?
A. The Holy Eucharist is the Sacrament which contains the body and blood, soul and divinity, of our Lord Jesus Christ under the appearances of bread and wine.
(The Baltimore Catechism of 1891)

Where do you find that Our Lord Jesus Christ is present body, blood, soul and divinity in an assembly, or the priest, or in the reading of the Word? Where? Body, blood, soul and divinity is not the same or on par with " For where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them." Matt. 18:20 or in the reading of the Gospel. They are like night and day different.

Do you believe in Transubstantiation? Catholics do. Protestants don’t.
John 6:56 “*For my flesh, is meat indeed: and my blood, is drink indeed”

Do you find this as a “hard saying” as some of his disciples did? Jesus lost a lot of followers over this saying. He did not run after them and say “Wait, you misunderstood me, you got it all wrong” No, just the opposite. He said to His apostles “Will you also go away”?
This is why they are Protestants. Transubstantiation is what they are protesting.
 
OurLadyPerpHelp said:
Ok, I’m confused again…what sin is ok and who thinks they know better than the Church?
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I guess I should have clarified better. It just seems there are 2 polar opposites…

One liberal side that say there really isn’t sin…or that it’s ok. That missing Mass on Sunday is ok. That you can pick and choose what you want to believe in Church teaching.

And the other side which has some pretty firm opinions. Some of this group can act like they might know more then the Church does. Or they disagree with some of the Church and vocally fight against it. Like women shouldn’t wear slacks…

I myself am trying to navigate it all…my grandmother was like the 2nd group…and she was uncharitable…which is why I first left the Church. Looking for the truth somewhere in between…
 
One can get turned out of a nightclub for wearing sneakers instead of shoes. . . A place Christians shouldn’t be in the first place, can have higher standards that a church in dress… ?

Good restaurants can require one not to wear casual…

Schools can require certain standards…
 
Annabelle_Marie said:
by turning people away from Mass for wearing slacks?
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catholicapologetics.info/morality/modesty/dress.htm

from the link:
“It is necessary for us to promote standards of attire for Catholic women and girls, standards such as Pope Pius XI had in mind when he said: “A dress cannot be decent which is cut deeper than two fingers breath under the pit of the throat; which does not cover the arms at least to the elbows; and scarecely reaches a bit beyond the knees. Furthermore, dresses of transparent materials are improper.” Ladies, men, girls and boys should always wear underwear and no beige material (it leaves the impression at a distance of having no clothes). If a skirt is snug, it should reach well below the knees; no shorts, no bathing suits, and** no pants (for females)**.”

Annabelle, this is a traditional catholic forum. Traditional catholics love to go to the traditional Latin Mass. We love Gregorian Chant. We love to dress according to traditional catholic modesty. Why are you personally calling me out for a dress code that Pope Pius XI promoted when he, the Shepherd of the Catholic Church, saw a need in this regard.?
 
vsedriver said:
yes, a dress code should deal with Modesty. As the mother of teenage sons I find it must be very distracting for them to be sitting behind a healthy young girl in tight or overly revealing clothes.
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As a young man myself I can assure you that it is! This is why I now sit in the front of the Church 🙂 No one in front me but God and his priest!

Keep up the good fight 🙂
 
Nostradennis said:
Q. 870. What is the Holy Eucharist?
A. The Holy Eucharist is the Sacrament which contains the body and blood, soul and divinity, of our Lord Jesus Christ under the appearances of bread and wine.
(The Baltimore Catechism of 1891)

Where do you find that Our Lord Jesus Christ is present body, blood, soul and divinity in an assembly, or the priest, or in the reading of the Word? Where? Body, blood, soul and divinity is not the same or on par with " For where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them." Matt. 18:20 or in the reading of the Gospel. They are like night and day different.

Do you believe in Transubstantiation? Catholics do. Protestants don’t.
John 6:56 “*For my flesh, is meat indeed: and my blood, is drink indeed”

Do you find this as a “hard saying” as some of his disciples did? Jesus lost a lot of followers over this saying. He did not run after them and say “Wait, you misunderstood me, you got it all wrong” No, just the opposite. He said to His apostles “Will you also go away”?
This is why they are Protestants. Transubstantiation is what they are protesting.
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I agree with your post and tommy has given an inacurate explanation that the Eucharist is only different. A priest acts in persona Christi. The Spirit may be present in the Word even amongst protestant circle, but the Eucahrist is literally God which is the highest form, the only thing above that is the beatific vision!
 
archangel04 said:
I agree with your post and tommy has given an inacurate explanation that the Eucharist is only different. A priest acts in persona Christi. The Spirit may be present in the Word even amongst protestant circle, but the Eucahrist is literally God which is the highest form, the only thing above that is the beatific vision!
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I saw his post just as I was leaving for work. I couldn’t get it out of my mind. I thought for sure that someone would have caught it and addressed it. Then, I get home and find out that no one called him to task on this. That puzzled me.

P.S. Do you have a favorite Archangel?
 
Nostradennis said:
I saw his post just as I was leaving for work. I couldn’t get it out of my mind. I thought for sure that someone would have caught it and addressed it. Then, I get home and find out that no one called him to task on this. That puzzled me.

P.S. Do you have a favorite Archangel?
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Called him to task for stating the reality of the real presense?
 
archangel04 said:
I agree with your post and tommy has given an inacurate explanation that the Eucharist is only different. A priest acts in persona Christi. The Spirit may be present in the Word even amongst protestant circle, but the Eucahrist is literally God which is the highest form, the only thing above that is the beatific vision!
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I have seen inaccuracies a few times in my few days here. Do the moderators watch for such things? This is very dangerous territory as giving wrong information could have disasterous consequences for many souls.
 
Nostradennis said:
Funerals and weddings are a more preeminent event than the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass?
Raise the bar and wear it to Church on Sunday.
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Not at all… it’s just that it’s the only suit I own so it’s reserved for those occasions essentially so it doesn’t get worn out.

Furthermore… I’d like to think that heaven doesn’t have a dress code. When God originally created man he was naked remember? When presented before God I highly doubt that if in judgment I am condemned it will not be because I didn’t wear a suit to mass. I do not dress disrespectfully or inappropriately in anyway.

That said… if you can explain how not wearing my suit may lead me to an eternity in hell I’ll gladly change my view.
 
archangel04 said:
I agree with your post and tommy has given an inacurate explanation that the Eucharist is only different. A priest acts in persona Christi. The Spirit may be present in the Word even amongst protestant circle, but the Eucahrist is literally God which is the highest form, the only thing above that is the beatific vision!
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This explanation was given by a Dominican priest who holds as STL form the Josephenum and and STD from the Angelicum and serves as the Priory at the Dominican House of Studies. Hmm who’s opinion carries more weight, I wonder. The Real Presence in the Eucharist is a sacramental Presence, and his presence in the others are a spiritual presence, but that does not mean that the Sacramental presence is superior, but is in a different manner, and is unique to Catholic and Orthodox Churches.
 
Nostradennis said:
catholicapologetics.info/morality/modesty/dress.htm

from the link:
“It is necessary for us to promote standards of attire for Catholic women and girls, standards such as Pope Pius XI had in mind when he said: “A dress cannot be decent which is cut deeper than two fingers breath under the pit of the throat; which does not cover the arms at least to the elbows; and scarecely reaches a bit beyond the knees. Furthermore, dresses of transparent materials are improper.” Ladies, men, girls and boys should always wear underwear and no beige material (it leaves the impression at a distance of having no clothes). If a skirt is snug, it should reach well below the knees; no shorts, no bathing suits, and** no pants (for females)**.”

Annabelle, this is a traditional catholic forum. Traditional catholics love to go to the traditional Latin Mass. We love Gregorian Chant. We love to dress according to traditional catholic modesty. Why are you personally calling me out for a dress code that Pope Pius XI promoted when he, the Shepherd of the Catholic Church, saw a need in this regard.?
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Ahmmm how many years ago was that? The dress code all over was a lot different. Do I see the need to dress in modesty…yes. In a dress or skirt? NO!

If we are turning souls away because they are wearing slacks then that to me is a dangerous thing to do.

If that is truly how traditionalists feel then I do not want to be associated with that at all! Please show me in the CATHECISM (Current one) or the GIRM where it states that women are not to be wearing slacks.
 
Annabelle_Marie said:
Ahmmm how many years ago was that? The dress code all over was a lot different. Do I see the need to dress in modesty…yes. In a dress or skirt? NO!

If we are turning souls away because they are wearing slacks then that to me is a dangerous thing to do.

If that is truly how traditionalists feel then I do not want to be associated with that at all! Please show me in the CATHECISM (Current one) or the GIRM where it states that women are not to be wearing slacks.
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Don’t tell me you actually want Magisterial support!! :rolleyes:
 
I just generally dress slacks, a white shirt and tie. It works and theirs no worry that anyone will think I am dressed immodestly.

While perhaps no official dress etiquette should exist, I think individuals should practice some common sense. Short skirts, shorts and sleeveless tops shouldn’t be allowed.
 
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