Go ahead and check the Jewish record, is there any record of Jesus marriage?? The Jew must have a certain record for that.Can you present any saying he was not, not with just arguements?
And outside the Bible too please, as that seems to be on the biased side (obvious by its contradictions. Just seem the New Testament says what it wants as it fits its purpose)
From my studies, it is not Jesus that is counted only as his son. Then again, as the other poster pointed out, apparantly I have no right to this discussion since I question his existence. Probably won’t stop me, but throwing out excuses for not being direct seems to be popular here.
In this case, I would like to see the proof that he was not married. Is it even written in the Bible that he was not married? This might suffice depending on who said it. I am a bit cautious of what the idol worshipper aka main writer of the New Testament says since his views contradict even the teachings of your god.
swariffin;4856841:
No problem, brother. May HaShem be with you always.Swariffin, if you don’t mind a late answer to your post, I would like to wait to hear what Rinnie has to say first. Sorry pal.
Ben:
Read the New Testament and the writings of the early Church. If JESUS had ever married if wold have been mentions at least once.And the proof for Jesus not being married has been given… … … … … … where exactly?
You contradict yourself by the way. Is the truth, in your opinion of course, a given or a proven? Go ahead and clear this up for me please.
Jesus was quoting the Genesis which was not written by Matthew, and believed as the word of God as passed by Moses. Perhaps you would also said that is the word of Moses too, not the word of God.
Really? Considering that a HUGE chunk of his life is missing from the Bible, I am not sure you should be making such claims.
Evidently by your statements you did not comprehend what you read. :nope:I have already said that I have been following this thread (in other words, I have read through the thread). Does this make me seem less foolish to you now?Way to show the love of God man!
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Good point! Way to turn 'em away from the Bible altogether!
Why don’t we ask Ben to search the Jewish record for that. I am not a Jewish, and I come from far away from the land of Judea. It should be easier for Ben to do so. You told me that you don’t want any source from the bible did you not?
Fair enough. Though I was not the one requesting the Jewish record for the case of Jesus being married. That was you. Way to displace and ignore my inquiry to you.
Dear sir if you read every thing and answer as you have what i posted it is no wonder your are confused about things and find it hard to get answers. I also said the writings of the early chruch fathers and you did not even ( following the lead of Ben and and few other on here) respond to the complete post. Did i make to much since to you or did you not understand it?Really? Considering that a HUGE chunk of his life is missing from the Bible, I am not sure you should be making such claims.
Wondering, if I were to admit that I was a woman, would that mean that you would take me less seriously since obviously women are so looked down upon that even Jesus could not be considered to have married one? If so, disregard question and continue to call me sir.Dear sir if you read every thing and answer as you have what i posted it is no wonder your are confused about things and find it hard to get answers. I also said the writings of the early chruch fathers and you did not even ( following the lead of Ben and and few other on here) respond to the complete post. Did i make to much since to you or did you not understand it?
If you ask my interpretation of the bible, I would said to the objective logic, that Jesus did not marry at all. If you want a proof other than from a bible, say a Jewish record, then it is better for you to ask our Jewish brother, Ben. How can a non Jewish is more capable than a Jew of digging Jewish record of anything?
Dear sir if you read every thing and answer as you have what i posted it is no wonder your are confused about things and find it hard to get answers. I also said the writings of the early chruch fathers and you did not even ( following the lead of Ben and and few other on here) respond to the complete post. Did i make to much since to you or did you not understand it?
Mind pointing the direction? I just realized how truly long this thread was. Thanks! :hug3: I never mind hearing the view points of others. I just do not like seeing other people’s view points put down just because one assumes they are right when really, none of us know for sure.
No adult Christian including the Catholic ever believe the real existence of Santa Clause in the way he was described. But, anyway, I did play Santa to my kid for educational purpose. The Indonesianized version of Santa Clause, for sure. We don’t have any chimney in our home.Well, geesh! Santa Clause not existing has never stopped many in the Catholic religion from telling (#coughs# or is that lying) to their children about his home being in the north pole and being married to Mrs. Clause, now has it?There is more reason for believing Jesus existed and so why should I be shut out of the speculating discussion?
My apolagies if you are a women then I would have no problem addressing you as Ma’am.Women are not looked down upon by Christ nor his Church, but are held in great esteem. I arrived at the conclusion that you are confused by reading your post.Wondering, if I were to admit that I was a woman, would that mean that you would take me less seriously since obviously women are so looked down upon that even Jesus could not be considered to have married one? If so, disregard question and continue to call me sir.
I am not confused. I am unsure how you have arrived at such a conclusion. I know what I know and all the rest is open for debate and speculations. By the way, I do not follow others. I would like to, but there really is no one in this world in whom I feel comfortable following. Now, I will go back and re-read what you wrote. Most likely, in all honesty, if I have not bought into it, I did not find it worthy of response or it could be that since it was not directed at me (was it?), then this also might account for my not having responded.
Whether or not you still believe in God, I wish May God (in whatever way you believe) Bless You, always.