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swariffin;4905315:
Who was your Messiah in 1948? Or, in what form the Messiah came? Also, who was the Elijah in accordance with Malacci?Don’t worry Swariffin, we don’t need to wait for the Messiah in order to rebuild our Temple. The Messiah is back since 1948. It’s all a matter of time and you will see our Temple rebuilt. The time that is taking so long is that this time we have returned too political. I mean, too afraid of Politicians. But that’s okay, the case is closed with you and I rest my case. Good luck for you too.
Ben:
Surely you are not saying the British is God, since the British was the one responsible for forming the state of Israel in 1947.
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Ginger2:
If Jesus was not married, you are going to have to drop the claim that he was a Rabbi or even a Jewish man. But be careful because you might be contributing for the collapse of Christianity.
As I requested in an earlier post, "Can you please reference the Scriptures that say a teacher of the law must be married? I know priests were required to be married, Lev 21:13
But where does it command teachers to take a wife?
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You are so careless about these things that you don’t even think about the disservice you cause to Jesus’ credibility by claiming that he loved one of the 12 in a special way in spite of the others. “Beloved” is too special to be said without moral implications. I love my mother, but my beloved was my wife. Jesus could love his disciples; but his beloved was Mary Magdalene. A Jew would never call another “my beloved” if he is not a homosexual. I am sorry if only to use this word here could be an offense. But that’s what Christians make non-Christian think.
No offense taken. You are a not-Christian. But I am not the cause of your ignorance. You choose it freely.
re: “Jesus loved”
Jhn 15:9 As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love.
nothing sexual here
Mark 10:21 And Jesus, looking at him, loved him, and said to him, “You lack one thing: go, sell all that you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.”
nothing sexual here
Luk 7:47 Wherefore I say unto thee, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much: but to whom little is forgiven, [the same] loveth little.
nothing sexual here
Jhn 11:5 Now Jesus loved Martha, and her sister, and Lazarus. …
36 Then said the Jews, Behold how he loved him!
nothing sexual here
re: “beloved”
Mat 3:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
nothing sexual here
Eph 1:6 … wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
nothing sexual here
Luk 20:13 Then said the lord of the vineyard, What shall I do? I will send my beloved son:…
nothing sexual here
Col 4:14 Luke, the beloved physician, and Demas, greet you.
nothing sexual here
Act 15:25 … to send chosen men unto you with** our beloved Barnabas and Paul,**
nothing sexual here
Rom 1:7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called [to be] saints:
nothing sexual here
Rom 16:8 ** Greet Amplias my beloved in the Lord**.
nothing sexual here
Ginger2:
I have to go in a circle because that’s the only way to get you coming in circles. I have showed you pleny of evidences in the Scriptures for my assertions;
I have disproved your “scriptural proofs”
Mary M. is a woman. The disciple in question was a man
Jesus was not the groom , he was a guest at the wedding.
Jesus denied responsibility for providing the wine
but the Scriptures are less important to you than church tradition. I don’t follow church Tradition. I’m not Catholic.
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I am still waiting for your evidence…
Can you please reference the Scriptures that say a teacher must be married?
Priests were required to be married, Lev 21:13
But where does the law command teachers to take a wife?
Ginger
Can you please reference the Scriptures that say a teacher must be married?
Priests were required to be married, Lev 21:13
But where does the law command teachers to take a wife?
Ginger
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rinnie
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Do not let Ben and company try to do more tricks. Standing on your head now huh ben:bounce: Here is something different:newidea: Lets try this.
To all of my Christian brothers and sister out there by now you can see why Ben and co. have such a hard time with Paul.
Read Galations. It sums up Ben pretty well. In Gal. 1:6-9 Paul even talks about people like ben, St Paul is astonished at how people are disagreeing with the truth of God. In 1:8 St Paul comes out and says anyone who does private interpretation is condemed.
Read Galations its all in there. Then we can put this puppy to rest.
To all of my Christian brothers and sister out there by now you can see why Ben and co. have such a hard time with Paul.
Read Galations. It sums up Ben pretty well. In Gal. 1:6-9 Paul even talks about people like ben, St Paul is astonished at how people are disagreeing with the truth of God. In 1:8 St Paul comes out and says anyone who does private interpretation is condemed.
Read Galations its all in there. Then we can put this puppy to rest.
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St Peter was an Apostle of Jesus Christ, the Messiah, the Saviour, the Son of God.
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OneTrueCathApos;4903075:
For you it’s Israel because that is your interpretation of what you think Isaiah is telling you. How is it that you can accuse one person of assuming whilst you ‘know’? And arrogant with it!!!
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Ben Masada;4905210:
For you it’s Israel because that is your interpretation of what you think Isaiah is telling you. How is it that you can accuse one person of assuming whilst you ‘know’? And arrogant with it!!!
Because he does not go by the bible, and the teaching’s of the church. He feel’s he can interprete scripture and we will go by what he say’s, But he will also get angry because as Catholics we know better. it is not for us to interprete scripture it is for the Church to do. Then after we understand scripture we can read in the light of Our Dear Lord Jesus Christ. If he went by the teaching’s of the bible he would have read where we do not have the ability to interpret scripture.
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Ben Masada;4905210:
For you it’s Israel because that is your interpretation of what you think Isaiah is telling you. How is it that you can accuse one person of assuming whilst you ‘know’? And arrogant with it!!!
And he thinks somehow we won’t notice it.
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From what I can see reading the OP, Ben Masada seems to have forgotten a few things about Mary Magdalene and Mary Martha’s sister: even though a number of commentators believe believe that they both are the same person, there is no proof of it without the shadow of a doubt.
Also, as for Jesus being the bridegroom at Cana, forget it! The text says that Jesus and his disciples were “invited” to the wedding! Moreover, it calls Jesus by name, but when the master of the feast tasted the wine, he told, says the text, to the “bridegroom”. The text also says that no one but the servants (other than Jesus, of course) knew where the wine came from, so I am afraid Ben Masada’s OP is pointless!
Also, as for Jesus being the bridegroom at Cana, forget it! The text says that Jesus and his disciples were “invited” to the wedding! Moreover, it calls Jesus by name, but when the master of the feast tasted the wine, he told, says the text, to the “bridegroom”. The text also says that no one but the servants (other than Jesus, of course) knew where the wine came from, so I am afraid Ben Masada’s OP is pointless!
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Expat_Barbara
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At last! Sense.
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Lapell
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First, Jesus was spreading the Good News of the Kingdom of God only after his baptism and the 40 days in the desert. So the wedding at Cana had to happen after the 40 days. No problem there. It isn’t said that it was his first opportunity of preaching, but that he performed his first sign.I know Cluny, but that’s according to the first three gospels. The fourth gospel does not acknowledge those 40 days of fast in the wilderness. If fasting was what Jesus was doing and not feasting in Cana, you are going to discard the fourth gospel. Then, your NT will have only three gospels. Are you ready for that? I didn’t think so. Then, you are in trouble.
Now, if you insist that Jesus did not get married, he broke a commandment. The first ever given to grow and multiply. (Gen. 1:28) If Jesus did not fulfill that commandment, then what are you going to do with Matthew 5:17-19 when he said that he had come to fulfill all the laws to the letter? Big trouble, don’t you think so?
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As for breaking the commandment to grow and to multiply, what makes you say that he broke the commandment? There are many ways to “grow and multiply”! Even bachelors, by teaching, can actually “multiply”. They pass their knowledge on to others, who are, so to speak, their “little children”…
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It’s ridiculous carnal minded garbage.What an imagination.
This stuff has been refuted so many times in the last several years, it’s no longer amusing.
Still people can make a lot of money writing such nonsense.
Here;s the real conspiracy.
Jesus is The Messiah and he died to make a new covenant with the children of Abraham and those under that New Covenant are called The Bride of Christ. On the third day he rose from the dead and is now is the mediator of that covenant. Jesus is married to The Church. The Church is The Bride of Christ and Christ is The Faithful husband.
This reallity was prophecied long ago and through the ages but many people are blinded by either the devil or their own desires so that they are unable to see the light of the glorious gospel of the risen Christ.
They’ll never believe Jesus rose from the dead but let’s tell them anyway.
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jake23;4903151:
My finds about the wedding of Jesus is not based on gnostic writings of the 5th Century, but in the own NT i tself.
That’s Pauline rhetoric.
To do good on the Sabbath is not against the commandment. This is a Christian accustion in order to separate Jesus from the Jews.
True! Mary and Jesus did love each other, thank you. If Jesus was God he could never be taken as a model for men to avoid temptation. Men are not half-god to be that strong against temptations.
I know God is not limited by Jewish law, but Jesus was. And about the Jews not being special in the “eyes of God,” you have to refute the Scriptures not me.
And who decided that, you or Paul? Because Jesus himself, in his Sermon of the Mount said that the Jews are still the light of the world. (Mat. 5:14)
If Jesus was not married, you are going to drop the claim that he was a Rabbi or even a Jewish man. But I suggest that you think twice because if he was not Jewish, the whole building of Christianity will collapse. Now, good luck!
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Ben,
I see you are not on here to have questioned answere but to spread the hate that is in your heart. Weither you like it or not Christ is God in flesh and you will bow down to him one day wiether it is in this life or after your death! The reading of gosple in GREEK do not support your claims. Yes you can interpret allot of things if you would like, but that there is more than enough to feel confident in our beliefs. I could manipulate scripture from Moses too but I was raised to be better than that. Jesus is God and I am confident that I will not convince you otherwise but I am confidence that you will bow in shame and repentance on judgement day when you see your creator Christ come to judge you. You are revealing that you have hate by your persecution of Christians. For you to claim that Christ was married is as dumb and idiotic to me as it would for you if I would have calimed that the holacaust never happened! It only shows blind ignorance. I will pray that you will find the truth so that you may live a more honorable life through Christ our Lord!
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jake23;4907670:
But remember Barbara we must not be like Ben, and hate. We must be like Jesus and forgive. ITs not easy, I for one know that. But I am on my way right now, as I will be the next Fridays until Easter to Stations of the Cross to remember what our Lord suffered for us. And we must as Christians pray for Ben. And all who refuse to accept our Dear Sweet Jesus. Our Lord and Savior. God Bless you all. and may GOds peace dwell within you!
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