The "Why are you still single?" quiz, sorta

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Perhaps there should be a new thread to accomodate the tangent this thread has taken.
 
Havard said:
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Perhaps there should be a new thread to accomodate the tangent this thread has taken.
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True. Let’s get back on topic. The discussion wasn’t progressing anyway. Hope you don’t mind, Flyingfish. I’m ready to keep discussing in a different thread or PM, should you wish to.
 
tries to get thread on topic I’m sitting in Starbucks (whoo hoo free wifi), drinking a Frappucino (it’s the last one I swear). And I see a girl who is fatter than me making out with a guy. What?! I’m not offended by the over the over the top PDA, but I’m fascinated. How can he think her as attractive?! I’m confused. If she can get someone, why am I single?! God has got some explaining to do, lol. About this and the platypus. What kind of animal is it?!

maybe it is just confusing me because I’m on cold medicine Hee.
 
Personally, I’m rather inclined to look for spiritual reasons in myself at this point. It could probably be explained with psychology and maths, but I don’t think that’s really the case.
 
chevalier said:
Personally, I’m rather inclined to look for spiritual reasons in myself at this point. It could probably be explained with psychology and maths, but I don’t think that’s really the case.
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Oh come on now, there’s nothing a good MATLAB model can’t solve… plus everyone loves a good graph! 😛
 
CountrySinger said:
  • I’m sitting in Starbucks (whoo hoo free wifi), drinking a Frappucino (it’s the last one I swear). And I see a girl who is fatter than me making out with a guy. What?! I’m not offended by the over the over the top PDA, but I’m fascinated. How can he think her as attractive?! I’m confused. If she can get someone, why am I single?! .
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Quite probably she has lower standards than you.
A clue to this is that she’s making out in public – would you do that? Insecure people do stuff like that to show that somebody loves them.

I was a single parent for 17 years. I finally married someone from another culture, who wasn’t intimidated by my intelligence, education, height, religion or children. No offence to present company, but American guys strike me as a timid bunch, afraid to venture out of their comfort zone.
 
Havard said:
Oh come on now, there’s nothing a good MATLAB model can’t solve… plus everyone loves a good graph! 😛
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😃

Well, a brief exercise in joint probability is without doubt going to show a small number of matches predictable in the perspective of the whole world, basing on purely statistical data. Basically every single thing seen as necessary for an easy getting along and a predictably rewarding conjugal community (erm :p) will constitute a fraction representing singular probability to be multiplied by other such singular probabilities up until the point where the number of zeroes after the decimal point will be extraordinarily large. 😛

Then it must be considered that certain people are rather lacking in terms of making meaningful acquaintance at all or with the opposite sex or specifically of the “amorous” kind. Of no small importance is also the trivial fact that no one has ever got married by staying home and doing things that don’t involve other people.

On the other hand, this whole maths and psychology misses the fact that statistics is just that; it never represents reliably the true reality, especially when estimating small chances. Furthermore, personalities and the like are not static and even without any supernatural means, they can change and adapt to each other. As far as supernatural means go, however, everything is possible and from the point of view of Christian anthropology, we ought to focus on hard work together rather than on compatibility taken to an extreme.

As far as spiritual causes go, I basically reap what I sowed (or strictly speaking get better than I deserve anyway). 😛
 
Viki63 said:
Quite probably she has lower standards than you.
A clue to this is that she’s making out in public – would you do that? Insecure people do stuff like that to show that somebody loves them.

I was a single parent for 17 years. I finally married someone from another culture, who wasn’t intimidated by my intelligence, education, height, religion or children. No offence to present company, but American guys strike me as a timid bunch, afraid to venture out of their comfort zone.
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I wouldn’t make out with someone in public, I would feel very uncomfortable. :eek:

I agree with you on the American man thing. 👍
 
chevalier said:
Let me quote again from that EWTN article (which refuses to be wrapped in proper quotations):
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I read that EWTN article, and you’ll notice in a later post I linked to it myself. That said, when I linked it I also pointed out that it has absolutely no references aside from the quoted pieces of Canon Law.

That particular list of essential obligations of marriage is not in the Canon Law, but is the personal interpretation of the individual who wrote the article. He gives no sources!

While I have nothing against EWTN contributors or Jimmy Akin, I see no reason to value their personal opinion as Catholics any more than the personal opinion of any other Catholic.

I would like to see an official Church source listing the essential obligations of marriage, not someone’s individual interpretation of the phrase used in Canon Law.
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chevalier:
Think we’ve dealt with that part.
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We really haven’t dealt with this. The only thing you have linked is an unsourced EWTN article. I guess you showed me what an individual Catholic thinks. This to me is entirely irrelevant, and I would like to see an official source from the Church listing the essential obligations of marriage that 1095.3 is talking about, not one man’s interpretation of it.
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chevalier:
Anyway, once again, I’ve never claimed that actually having and bringing up children is an essential duty. The duty is to accept and bring up the offspring as it comes. But removing that duty from marriage invalidates. Being unable to assume that duty for psychic reasons invalidates.
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You are splitting hairs at this point. In an earlier post you told me that ability cannot be an essential obligation, but that having and bringing up children is.
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chevalier:
Ability is not an obligation because ability cannot be an obligation. Having and bringing up children may be an obligation, and is.
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Now you’re saying that being unable to assume the duty to accept and bring up offspring invalidates (only for psychic reasons too, if someone is physically disabled and can’t “assume the essential duty” he’s good to go).

All this is completely irrelevant until we know what essential obligations 1095.3 is referring to. You seem to agree with the EWTN contributor’s interpretation, I don’t. I’m sure we both know that just as there are ultra-liberal Catholics there are also ultra-Conservative Catholics (like the kind who’ll argue that NFP can only be used if the woman is going to die) and that neither represents the Church’s position.
 
CountrySinger said:
Hee hee. I love The Onion! But maybe I wasn’t talking about European men. 😃 But since men are very visual, by default, they have to be shallow. 😛
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Well wherever people are from, there will pro’s and con’s. Sadly there is no Disneyland of good Catholic singles.
 
Havard said:
Well wherever people are from, there will pro’s and con’s. Sadly there is no Disneyland of good Catholic singles.
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So you aren’t denying that men are shallow? Lol. Maybe the Church, in a rash idea to promote the vocation of marriage, will capture all singles over the age of 21 and put us on an island together. And in order to leave, you would have to marry somebody. 😃 I would want Hawaii, we would become like the leper colony there. 😃
 
CountrySinger said:
So you aren’t denying that men are shallow? Lol. Maybe the Church, in a rash idea to promote the vocation of marriage, will capture all singles over the age of 21 and put us on an island together. And in order to leave, you would have to marry somebody. 😃 I would want Hawaii, we would become like the leper colony there. 😃
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Unfortunately, I feel like I’m on Gilligan’s Island. This is a lot longer than a three hour tour…
 
CountrySinger said:
So you aren’t denying that men are shallow? Lol. Maybe the Church, in a rash idea to promote the vocation of marriage, will capture all singles over the age of 21 and put us on an island together. And in order to leave, you would have to marry somebody. 😃 I would want Hawaii, we would become like the leper colony there. 😃
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Some men, sure, as are some women. But I’d rather not focus on that, nor single out any particular subgroup for critique.
 
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