Thekkumbhaga (Southists): Jewish Christians: Kerala, India

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LDNCatholic said:
Hold on. Are you a Syro Malabar Catholic? Didn’t the Goa Inquisition wipe out all indiginous Christians from the Indian Subcontinent? :confused:

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I’m Syro Malabar Catholic by birth (my parents are SMC) but I’ve always attended Latin/Roman Rite Mass since I live in America. Syro Malabar Catholics are, as the name indicates, Catholics from the state of Kerala (not Goa) whose traditions stem from the East Syriac Traditions and the Chaldean Rite.

I’m not familiar with the Goa Inquisition but there are still very many (all of my ancestors/family in Kerala) indigenous Christians, in India, (specifically Kerala) who trace their heritage back to St. Thomas.

Regardless, paarsurvey needs to stop throwing Wikipedia articles in here. Someone had a very long thread on the Syro Malabar Catholic Church and the discussion included the glaring errors present in the Wikipedia article on the SMC.
 
Why is this even in the “Non-Catholic Religions” section of the forum?:confused: Seems like it should be in the Eastern section…the Liturgy may not be Byzantine, but it certainly qualifies as Eastern…

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syromalabarcath said:
I’m Syro Malabar Catholic by birth (my parents are SMC) but I’ve always attended Latin/Roman Rite Mass since I live in America. Syro Malabar Catholics are, as the name indicates, Catholics from the state of Kerala (not Goa) whose traditions stem from the East Syriac Traditions and the Chaldean Rite.

I’m not familiar with the Goa Inquisition but there are still very many (all of my ancestors/family in Kerala) indigenous Christians, in India, (specifically Kerala) who trace their heritage back to St. Thomas
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I know mate don’t worry I’m only joking at the expense of paarsurrey’s complete ignorance and reliance on dodgy wikipedia articles. I know Goan Catholics tend to be of the Latin Rite but I’m fairly sure the Portugese got down to Kerala too, given that most of my Malayalam friends have Portugese surnames.
 
tampasteve said:
Why is this even in the “Non-Catholic Religions” section of the forum?:confused: Seems like it should be in the Eastern section…the Liturgy may not be Byzantine, but it certainly qualifies as Eastern…

Steve
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Because it is not to discuss the Eastern Church, it is yet another platform for paarsurrey to denounce the ‘‘evils’’ of Catholicism and point out that his faith (been around for all of 129 years :rolleyes: ) is the Truth.
 
LDNCatholic said:
I know mate don’t worry I’m only joking at the expense of paarsurrey’s complete ignorance and reliance on dodgy wikipedia articles. I know Goan Catholics tend to be of the Latin Rite but I’m fairly sure the Portugese got down to Kerala too, given that most of my Malayalam friends have Portugese surnames.
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hah, *mate.
  • loves that term. anywho.
mmkay, yeah the sarcasm that makes more sense, (i dont know all the members on here so bear with me while i learn how to gauge everyone’s sense of sarcasm).

and yeah, some of your Malayali (Malayalam is the language, lol) will have Portuguese names because they came down to good ol’ Kerala too. holla.
 
Hi

I understand there are 60,00,000 Syrian Jewish Christians (maybe it includes or excludes the Syrian Catholics) in Kerala, and have several denominations.

Can anybody tell the names of these denominations and their websites/discussion forums, if any.

I love Jesus and Mary

Thanks
 
syromalabarcath said:
hah, *mate.
  • loves that term. anywho.
mmkay, yeah the sarcasm that makes more sense, (i dont know all the members on here so bear with me while i learn how to gauge everyone’s sense of sarcasm).

and yeah, some of your Malayali (Malayalam is the language, lol) will have Portuguese names because they came down to good ol’ Kerala too. holla.
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Dammit, I forgot about that. Don’t blame me its too much information for my feeble mind to contain. My mistake I usually just call them Mallu anyway.

And I’m pretty sarcastic when my patience wears thin. Like in this thread.
 
Hi

Jesus’ mission was to prepare the Jews for the advent of Ahmad or Muhammad the Seal of
Prophets; this was the Gospel or good tidings, in my opinion, that Jesus was assigned by GodAllahYHWH to spread in the Jews.

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So to conclude this part, we can say that Thomas came to Malabar looking for the lost children of Israel, that the initial and the majority of such converts were Jews and Bene-Israelites who were speaking Syriac language and that the local non-Jewish converts were a minority and they were in contact with the Israelites already as to become familiar with the Old Testament concepts.
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nasrani.net/2007/12/30/thomas…ical-approach/

This also shows the purpose of Jesus’ travel to India after when he survived a painful death on Cross, with the grace of GodAllahYHWH.

I love Jesus and Mary

Thanks
 
Hi

while making a search on the internet about Saint Thomas, I came across the following Buddhists’ website. In case it might interest you:
buddhistfaith.tripod.com/gospel/

Exploring the Gospel of Thomas, we discover that Jesus believed the self and the divine to be identical and one. Furthermore, the Kingdom of Heaven is not in the future but is “right here.” and one only needs to be awakened to this perfection. Jesus, in this gospel, speaks of enlightenment, the same type that is taught by Shakyamuni Buddha, Shin teachers and Zen Masters. In addition, Thomas does not have a narrative story line but just 114 sayings attributed to Jesus, many of which are akin to Zen koans.

• Here, Jesus is never presented as Lord or Savior, but rather as a spiritual guide who is equal to his students.
• In addition, the Gospel of Thomas does not contain a supernatural virgin birth or the doctrine of the Virgin Mary.
• It does not teach of original sin.
• It does not mention Jesus’ crucifixion or resurrection.
• It does not teach Jesus’ death as a payment of debt to “atone” for humanity’s sins.
• It does not include any supernatural healings or miracles.
• It does not mention the so-called end-times or the wrath of God.
• It does not mention salvation through faith in Christ.
• It does not exclude women.

buddhistfaith.tripod.com/gospel/

This might be only an opinion of the Shin Buddhists; and is only given here for the searching souls who are steadfast enough to pick up the Truth in it.

I love Jesus and his true followers as I love Buddha and his true followers.

Thanks
 
Hi

I find following entry in the wikipedia:

Gospel of Thomas, probably in Egypt, reads:
"114. Simon Peter said to them, “Make Mary leave us, for females are not worthy of life.” Jesus said, “Look I shall guide her to make her male so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every female who makes herself male will enter the Kingdom of Heaven.” (translation by Elaine Pagels and Marvin Myer in Elaine Pagels, Beyond Belief 2003, pp241f).

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_Gospel_of_the_Egyptians

I don’t find this teachings from Jesus in the NTBible.

How would you explain it please?

Thanks
 
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