Over 30,000 Christians have believed this, and each one of thos founded a denomination. They disagree, they conflict they contradict.
Just because you think some thirty thousand people have heard Jesus wrong you are not going to let Him talk to you. Open up your heart and let Jesus talk to you.
Please go back and read post # 116. I gave you the basics and a summary of what you need. I also pointed out to you that Acts 2:46 doesn’t address the issue at all. This verse merely points out that the early Jewish Christians initially continued to go to the synagogue. They did not celebrate the Eucharist through the breaking of the bread at the synagogue. Since there were no Christian churches built at that time they went to their homes.
Pax, When the people went to their homes they had communion. No one needs to consecrate the bread and wine, which is done by Jesus. He is our priest and there is no need for a priesthood any more Jesus made us a priestly people. Don’t you see all Spirit filled Christians are priest.
I say this in charity, but I must be blunt. None of us is refusing to listen to Jesus. That is exactly what we do all the time. Our prayer life is all about that communication. Our hearts are open to the Lord. The fact that we disagree with you on certain things doesn’t mean that we do not listen to Jesus. Most of us have never heard the “audible” voice of God with our physical ears. That does not mean that we do not listen to the Lord.
Scripture says that we are a priestly people. Scripture also says that we have priests(presbyters) and bishops. History tells us the details of the mass all the way back to the time of the apostles. History details the priestly function of the ordained ministry which is reserved to them and not the Christian body at large.
Pax, Think about it, can you find any where in Scripture where it says a Spirit filled Christian needs to be consecrated a priest, so he then can consecrate bread and wine so it can become the body and blood of Jesus? The early Christians were having Communion in their homes way before the church reverted to the ways of the Old Testament by setting up an unnecessary priest hood.
How did you get “I’m not going to let Jesus talk to me” out of “we don’t have the power of binding and loosing that Peter had”?
Amen Robert, we all share in the priesthood. Pax was talking about the ministerial priesthood though, which is something that not everyone is called to.
Prove it from history. Your last statement is an utter fiction.
This advice has been given before, but in order to understand the early church you really must read the writings of the early Christians, those who lived as Christians within only a few generations of the apostles. Read about how THEY understood scripture and the teachings of the apostles, read about what Jesus told THEM, and see if your beliefs line up with them.
Go back and read my posts #116 and #117 and refute them if you can.
Don’t you think it is significant that the Holy Spirit didn’t see those documents as important enough to be included in the Word of God (Bible)?
Bob, the Holy Spirit is not a historian. All history is not recorded in the Bible. The fact that these are not scripture does not detract from the truth of them. Indeed, all truth leads to God’s truth.
Bob, God established a priesthood in the Old Testament with Aaron. Why would he want to change it in the New Testament?
(1 Peter 2:9-10) “But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a consecrated nation, a people set apart to sing the praises of God who called you out of the darkness into his wonderful light. Once you were not a people at all and now you are the People of God; once you were outside the mercy and now you have been given mercy.”