Theologians-Bishops Dialogue

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Reviewing the articles in that publication, one is struck by what appears to be a studious avoidance of what the two sides are actually discussing.

Given that the publication seems geared to theology students, that is less than encouraging.
 
Warrenton said:
Reviewing the articles in that publication, one is struck by what appears to be a studious avoidance of what the two sides are actually discussing.
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That may be due to a desire, from both the theologians and the bishops, to keep the discussions private until they reach an agreement. Being that the public critique of Sr. Elizabeth Johnson’s book set off the controversy, I suspect that is part of the discussion. But perhaps a more central concern is how the bishops and theologians should resolve their disagreements, if the 1989 agreement “Doctrinal Responsibilities” is being reviewed.
 
I read the link to the article about her book. It was similarly opaque.🤷
 
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I read the link to the article about her book. It was similarly opaque.🤷
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You may want to refer to the lengthy thread we have had about the public critique issued by the bishops’ Committee on Doctrine. There are several useful links, as well as some thoughtful analysis of the situation.
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=549353

In particular, understanding that NCR article may depend on an acquaintance with what the bishops’ committee actually said. I have links to those statements in post #4.
 
Thanks for the links, Dale.

I’ll have to read them before I can form an opinion about underlying matter!
 
I think that dialogue is an important and necessary part of all human interaction, even within the Church. However, I do have reservations as to whether what dialogue means to me and what dialogue means to NCReporter are the same thing.

This part in particular gives me pause (emphasis added):

Now our theologians are largely from the laity, and there is less episcopal and theological intermingling. Hinze’s prescription for this dilemma: Bishops and theologians need to create a culture where there’s “no pressure to say we all have to agree,” a culture of more open and honest conversations.

Now, if they are talking about things like whether Co-Redemptrix is a proper title for Mary, I’m all for it. But if they’re talking about things like the ordination of women or the approval of homosexual unions, then I think such an attitude is simply not going to happen. NCReporter’s past reporting does little to dissuade me from thinking that they have in mind the latter moreso than the former.

The best analogy I have heard of for the relation between theology and dogma is that of a fenced-in yard. Dogma is the fence. In doing theology, you are free to roam about the entire field, so long as you don’t breach the fence. Far from being constricting, the fence is in place to protect those inside it from wandering off a dangerous precipice.

So theologians and bishops can dialogue back and forth about a great number of things. But if the theologians want to wander outside the fence, they should know they are going to a place to which the bishops simply cannot follow them.
 
Sonny,
The ‘National Catholic Reporter’ does not adhere to the teachings of the Church.
This is not to be confused with the older ‘National Catholic Register’.
The Reporter often uses faulty reasoning to prove their point.

You can always tell if a form of media is faithful to the Catholic Church, is if it PROMOTES adhering to all the contents of the “CATECHISM of the CATHOLIC CHURCH, Second Edition”.

No Theologian or Bishop can promote thoughts that violate the teachings in the “CCC 2nd Ed”. Or they would be heretics or schismatics.
They should be in full agreement in all matters of Faith and Morals as stated in the CCC.

" The Catechism of the Catholic Church, which I have approved…and the publication of which I order by virtue of my Apostolic Authority, is a statement of the Church’s faith and of Catholic Doctrine, attested to or illumined by Sacred Scripture, the Apostolic Tradition, and the Church’s Magisterium. I declare it to be a sure norm for teaching the Faith and thus a valid and legitimate instrument for ecclesial communion." - Pope John Paul II
 
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