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Lisa4Catholics
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Pax you want to start a thread so we will know who are commrads are:ehh:Lisa and Siena,
You are now charter members without peer. Go forth and watch your backs
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Pax
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Lisa,
Your idea of a thread on this subject could be dangerous but funny. I will have to weigh the need for laughs against the dangers of our members surrendering their anonymity.
Your idea of a thread on this subject could be dangerous but funny. I will have to weigh the need for laughs against the dangers of our members surrendering their anonymity.
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Lisa4Catholics
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I have already done it
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Pax
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Lisa,
I am warming to the idea of starting a thread. As you may already know, I do not start threads. I generally try to contribute in some small way, but have been known to derail them into unrelated topics. Iām not even sure what forum would be the appropriate place. Since you have much more experience in this area, I would greatly appreciate any (name removed by moderator)ut you might have.
I am warming to the idea of starting a thread. As you may already know, I do not start threads. I generally try to contribute in some small way, but have been known to derail them into unrelated topics. Iām not even sure what forum would be the appropriate place. Since you have much more experience in this area, I would greatly appreciate any (name removed by moderator)ut you might have.
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Pax
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Lisa,
Where did you place this new gem?
Where did you place this new gem?
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Pax
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Lisa,
I found it and blushed like the winner on the Gong Show! Fame is not my game, but the railroad committee has successfully accomplished its mission. You are now promoted to CEO of the Anonymous Paranoid Catholic Answers Alliance.
I found it and blushed like the winner on the Gong Show! Fame is not my game, but the railroad committee has successfully accomplished its mission. You are now promoted to CEO of the Anonymous Paranoid Catholic Answers Alliance.
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Lisa4Catholics
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Pax
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Oops,
I failed to mention the glorious admission of antiaphrodite into the elite corps of the Anonymous Paranoid Catholic Answers Alliance. Your paper work was temporarily misplaced while we did a deep back ground check. antiaphrodite is unmistakably paranoid and is also antichip and is therefore granted full membership and equal standing with her peerless peers. As always, watch your back; you never know, they might be gaining on you.
I failed to mention the glorious admission of antiaphrodite into the elite corps of the Anonymous Paranoid Catholic Answers Alliance. Your paper work was temporarily misplaced while we did a deep back ground check. antiaphrodite is unmistakably paranoid and is also antichip and is therefore granted full membership and equal standing with her peerless peers. As always, watch your back; you never know, they might be gaining on you.
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Santa_Cruz
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there is no way that I would allow that to happen to me without one heck of a fight. I believe some people in our goverment would love to be able to do that and that a lot of citizens will agree with them. Pretty sad.
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Lisa4Catholics
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Santa Cruz:
msnbc.msn.com/id/6237364/
Watch the medical community too they are trying to fuff it up and make it look like a good thing:nope:
msnbc.msn.com/id/6237364/
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antiaphrodite
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Lisa4Catholics said:
youāre great, lisa!!!
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antiaphrodite
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i think iāve outrun them, but you never know! thank you for admitting me!!!
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AlanFromWichita
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It is inevitable.
Governments will keep āprotectingā us by taking our money and building technology to spy on us.
We wonāt stop them because we can be sold on comfort and security, having taken freedom completely for granted. For perfect examples of how seductive these intrusions are, look at some of the reactions from CAF members right here on this thread on new x-ray technology. Look at how many concede that this is OK, or that if it improves safety letās do it, etc. This is what empowers the government to become more and more like the Orwellian novel 1984. The difference between now and when Orwell wrote that book, is that the technology now exists so it is just a matter of time until its concepts are implemented. We will be turned into spies against each other.
I donāt anticipate the public will wake up in time to turn this around any time soon. Not only will we be tracked everywhere, our ānudeā x-rays will be files with them. All cars will have GPS tracking devices like the āOnstarā system ā at least we can find stolen cars easily I guess. Computers will track all automobile traffic and look for any patterns out of the ordinary, so you had better have a good excuse to be where you are at any given time. Donāt believe me? Letās bet $10,000 on it, payable in 10 years.
Everything is in place for all this to happen, and has already progressed beyond acceptable ā recently formalized by the USA Patriot Act. Thanks to that Act, we have now formally authorized covert searches in individualās homes without a warrant (they can now literally sneak in when you arenāt home and plant cameras and devices to record your computer keystrokes, etc.) and that isnāt enough. The FBI is currently trying, again, to be able to cut the judicial process out entirely and obtain āadministrativeā search warrants ā which essentially means that we no longer will enjoy the right to privacy.
Maybe people donāt care about privacy.
Before this is all over, we conservatives might wish we had listened to the ACLU a little more, but overall the liberals sell the same thing so we canāt really count on them to protect our privacy either. Libertarians would do something about it, but no time soon because they have no measurable political power because just about everyoneās bought into the mainstream.
From Neal Boortz āFavorite Quotesā page:
āIn the end they will lay their freedom at our feet and say to us, āMake us your slaves, but feed us.āā [Dosteovskyās āGrand Inquisitorā]
āIf you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.ā [Samuel Adams]
Governments will keep āprotectingā us by taking our money and building technology to spy on us.
We wonāt stop them because we can be sold on comfort and security, having taken freedom completely for granted. For perfect examples of how seductive these intrusions are, look at some of the reactions from CAF members right here on this thread on new x-ray technology. Look at how many concede that this is OK, or that if it improves safety letās do it, etc. This is what empowers the government to become more and more like the Orwellian novel 1984. The difference between now and when Orwell wrote that book, is that the technology now exists so it is just a matter of time until its concepts are implemented. We will be turned into spies against each other.
I donāt anticipate the public will wake up in time to turn this around any time soon. Not only will we be tracked everywhere, our ānudeā x-rays will be files with them. All cars will have GPS tracking devices like the āOnstarā system ā at least we can find stolen cars easily I guess. Computers will track all automobile traffic and look for any patterns out of the ordinary, so you had better have a good excuse to be where you are at any given time. Donāt believe me? Letās bet $10,000 on it, payable in 10 years.
Everything is in place for all this to happen, and has already progressed beyond acceptable ā recently formalized by the USA Patriot Act. Thanks to that Act, we have now formally authorized covert searches in individualās homes without a warrant (they can now literally sneak in when you arenāt home and plant cameras and devices to record your computer keystrokes, etc.) and that isnāt enough. The FBI is currently trying, again, to be able to cut the judicial process out entirely and obtain āadministrativeā search warrants ā which essentially means that we no longer will enjoy the right to privacy.
Maybe people donāt care about privacy.
Before this is all over, we conservatives might wish we had listened to the ACLU a little more, but overall the liberals sell the same thing so we canāt really count on them to protect our privacy either. Libertarians would do something about it, but no time soon because they have no measurable political power because just about everyoneās bought into the mainstream.
From Neal Boortz āFavorite Quotesā page:
āIn the end they will lay their freedom at our feet and say to us, āMake us your slaves, but feed us.āā [Dosteovskyās āGrand Inquisitorā]
āIf you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.ā [Samuel Adams]
Alan
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Black_Jaque
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Itās scary how far down this road many Catholics have gone.
I actually heard on Relevant Radio one guy call in and in a perfectly sincere voice justified something because the government needs to protect us from ourselves. He even cited motorcycle helmet laws as a āgoodā example.
And then thereās this whole issue with the State dictating what our children are to learn. People find this concept totally acceptable!
I actually heard on Relevant Radio one guy call in and in a perfectly sincere voice justified something because the government needs to protect us from ourselves. He even cited motorcycle helmet laws as a āgoodā example.
And then thereās this whole issue with the State dictating what our children are to learn. People find this concept totally acceptable!
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romano
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AlanFromWichita
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Hey, Iām an engineer. You get a job, and you design what youāre told to design. They give you a paycheck, and you go home.
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rlg94086
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Hey, Iām an engineer. You get a job, and you design what youāre told to design. They give you a paycheck, and you go home.
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Alan,
Thanks for the back-up. Iām a sales guy, so sometimes I sell it and then ask engineering to design it.
Robert.
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Alan,
Thanks for the back-up. Iām a sales guy, so sometimes I sell it and then ask engineering to design it.
Robert.
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AlanFromWichita
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Oh, my! I donāt suppose you āhappenā to have a copy of my favorite Dilbert from several years ago? I lost my copy in a fire in March. It was between Dilbert and Stan from sales. (I think his name was stan.)Alan,
Thanks for the back-up. Iām a sales guy, so sometimes I sell it and then ask engineering to design it.
Robert.
Possibly paraphrased a bit, Dilbert said, āYou have sold something that engineering canāt possibly produce. Do you know what this means?ā
Stan: āIt means I am a great salesman and you are a putrid engineer. Perhaps you should consider taking some classes.ā
Dilbert, thinking to himself: āKarate classes.ā
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Lance
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If the ACLU is against it, it can not be all bad.
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rlg94086
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No. I donāt have it, but Iām now busting a gut.
In my past positions, Iāve sold robust, already designed and tested product. In one job, I helped engineering develop customer-specific products.
In my latest gig, Iām expected to sell systems which either exist in an engineerās mind or are built, but not working yet. Confidence level is very low
How to get back on topicā¦
Iāve never had a black ops organization ask me to sell a product designed to control and/or track the masses.
God Bless,
Robert
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