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Thanks again Monte. Was it so difficult for him to be honest with the data? 
Surely this would be embarrassing for the IPCC.
Surely this would be embarrassing for the IPCC.
This just serves to highlight Mann’s problem with integrity, something that should matter to scientists. Close is not good enough, correlation isn’t good enough for causation.Yes, Mann was technically incorrect about his personally receiving a Nobel Prize. But he was more than simply one of 2000 other scientists who worked on the IPCC. He arguably did more than Al Gore who did get a personal award. So that is what I meant when I said Mann was not very far from the truth. Being very far from the truth would be if I claimed to have received a Nobel Prize.
Like many who excel in their fields, they sometimes have an inflated ego. (Any current presidents come to mind?)
It is funny how when someone wants to discredit global warming theory they often say it is all invented by Mann. But in this issue of receiving a Nobel Prize, they say he was just one of 2000 working together. Pick your narrative and stick to it.
Yeah, you keep believing that.Your claims in the first paragraph are just wrong.
Why are you still repeating this? It was already posted and no one is contesting any of the facts in this list, including Mann himself, who has corrected his claim.Michael Mann = Fake Nobel Prize.
QUOTE:
Both National Review and the Environmental Policy Examiner contacted the Nobel committee to see if it recognizes Mann as a prize winner.
Here’s what it told the Environmental Policy Examiner:
- Michael Mann has never been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.
- He did not receive any personal certificate. He has taken the diploma awarded in 2007 to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (and to Al Gore) and made his own text underneath this authentic-looking diploma.
- The text underneath the diploma is entirely his own. We issued only the diploma to the IPCC . . ,
LeafByNiggle:Michael Mann = Fake Nobel Prize.
To make it crystal clear, that Michael Mann who DID CLAIM to receive a Nobel Prize (repeatedly) . . . did NOT RECEIVE a Nobel Prize.Why are you still repeating this?
It IS far from correct.You know he is not far from correct . . . .
No, it is merely incorrect. It is not “far from correct.” Being in a leadership position in an organization the did win a Nobel Prize is not the same thing as being awarded a Noble Prize, but most people would think it was pretty close. That is why I said he was “not far from the truth”. A more honest and complete way to describe the situation would be to say “Mann claimed to have won a Nobel Prize, but we didn’t. It was awarded to the organization he led.” Why are they so reluctant to add that last clarifying sentence?To make it crystal clear, that Michael Mann who DID CLAIM to receive a Nobel Prize (repeatedly) . . . did NOT RECEIVE a Nobel Prize.
And if this fact wasn’t prevaricated upon by you here LeafByNiggle, I would NOT have repeated this truth (of the apparently fradulent claims of Michael Mann).
LeafByNiggle (on Michael Mann’s apparently phony claims about being a Nobel Prize recipient):
It IS far from correct.
It was awarded to the organization he led."
Because of Mann’s false claim. (Stolen valor is not “reward-worthy”)Why are they so reluctant to add that last clarifying sentence?
Truth is not to be withheld as a reward. Truth is truth. Mann’s group did win a Nobel Prize. We only hurt ourselves by denying it. Besides, since you think the whole climate change thing is a hoax or a fraud, why would you think being recognized for developing that theory is a reward? It would seem to be its own punishment (in your view, anyway).Because of Mann’s false claim. (Stolen valor is not “reward-worthy”)
When my son’s team wins, he says ‘we won’You know he is not far from correct, since the whole team he was on won a Nobel Prize, so in a sense they all won it, just like when two or three people share in a Nobel Prize.
Ha! I guess Mann believes in everyone gets a trophy!When my son’s team wins, he says ‘we won’
Not ‘I won’
Love it!!Ha! I guess Mann believes in everyone gets a trophy!
Bad source. All bunk, as I’ve pointed out many time here at CAF.Things Get Hot for Michael Mann
americanthinker.com/articles/2017/07/things_get_hot_for_michael_mann.html
Dear Monte,Things Get Hot for Michael Mann
americanthinker.com/articles/2017/07/things_get_hot_for_michael_mann.html
Here’s Mann’s attorney’s response.… it always pays to check out what the other side is saying.
The lawyer is deflecting with a strawman, avoiding the real issue.Here’s Mann’s attorney’s response.
The BC Court will not be asked to decide whether or not climate change is real.
So there is no chance whatsoever that any BC Court verdict about Mann’s libel claims against Ball will vindicate Donald Trump’s perspective on climate change.
Roger D. McConchie
Lawyer
Dear Theo,The lawyer is deflecting with a strawman, avoiding the real issue.
Primarily this court case is about transparency. Mann is now required to release supporting documentation he kept private.
The kindest word is “fudged”, as in the data were fudged.Dear Monte,
Please note that O’Sullivan appears to be “making stuff up.” There never has been any missing data. And so, obviously, it is absurd to argue that these “missing data” have been relevant to any recent court decisions.
Especially when working with biased and poorly sourced reports, it always pays to check out what the other side is saying. There is further information on O’Sullivan available at the link.
As ever, Jesse