Things I admire about protestants

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1holycatholic said:
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No-one who is in heaven, being in God’s presence and knowing His truth, will be anything other than Catholic, whatever they may have called themselves on earth.

And if they ARE there, it is because they were at least in some fashion linked to the body of Christ - which IS the Catholic Church - and would have been fully-paid-up card-carrying Catholics if they’d known better. :yup: 😃
 
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I know many, many protestants, so this is easy! Many of them are very involved in living out their faith. Of course there are Sunday pew warmers, but any church has those. But I've known a number of protestants that really know their Bible and work to live their faith to the best of their ability. Whether that is wearing dresses only, sending missionaries to far off countries, being very friendly to newcomers or having several services a week ( I attended three a week as a Baptist and in the Church of Christ, 2x/week in Calvary Chapel) there are many that *truly *devote their lives to Christ and it is obvious to those around them. 

What a delightful thread!
 
HappyRevert said:
I think protestants in general are better at fellowship than we are. They really emphasize a welcoming community and you can feel it at their services. We should encourage that at our churches as well.
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True, but we cant get to much like that. When we become like that, solemnity is lost. Thats why we have K of C, you know? But yes, protestants do do a very good job at welcoming outsiders.
 
HappyRevert said:
I think protestants in general are better at fellowship than we are. They really emphasize a welcoming community and you can feel it at their services. We should encourage that at our churches as well.
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Yes, it also leads to the tendency among Protestants to look at church primarily as a social club rather than a place to worship God the way He wants to be worshiped. (Of course, social clubs are exactly what Protestant ecclesiastical communities are). Practically every Protestant these days goes “church shopping”…the top things they look for in a church are people who make them feel good, a hip pastor who preaches message that give them warm and fuzzies, “good worship” (in Protestant terminology this means guitars, drums, flashy lights, hip technology, and shallow and repetitive choruses projected on a huge overhead). One does not “convert” from Baptist to Methodist, or from Methodist to non-denominational. For a Protestant, deciding to belong to a different church is as casual as deciding to shop at Meijer’s instead of Wal-Mart, or or leaving one country club to join another, except that doing that requires less time and paperwork than Protestants changing churches; like country clubs, Protestant “churches” are essentially social contracts.
 
This thread is a disgrace to the True Faith. I wonder what the English martyrs (you know-- those brave men and women who gave their lives for the True Mass rather than the protestantized version that Henry whipped up) would say about this topic.

Have we really gone from “Outside the Church, No Salvation” to “Gee, all nice people go to heaven!”? That’s what I call Disney spirituality.

To those who invoke JPII as an example of “let’s all just get along” spirituality: John Paul II was absolutely scandalous in many, many things, most especially his interfaith novelties.

God have mercy!
 
As someone else pointed out before, Protestants are excelent Bible quoters. If I’m looking for a specific passage out of the Bible, and I can’t find it, I usually ask a Protestant friend or family member. I don’t like most of today’s Christian music, but the Protestants in the African-American churches have great Gospel music, and most of the time, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with the lyrics. Anglicans have also written some excelent hymns. I also like how most Protestant churches offer full emersion baptism, wich is what the early Christians received.

The biggest thing that I admire about Protestants, is the fact that without them, the Bible may have never been translated into the vernacular language, and distributed to the masses, like it has been. We also have our Protestant brothers and sisters to thank for many of the reforms of Vatican II, such as Mass in the vernacular.
 
Reuben_J said:
I retract my statement. It’s not made the way it looks like it is intended. Nevertheless I sincerely apologize. My statement is stereotype perhaps because of the nature of this thread and partly because of my ignorance. I admire pastors and honor them for the work they do in serving the Lord.
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UKcatholicGuy said:
This thread is a disgrace to the True Faith. I wonder what the English martyrs (you know-- those brave men and women who gave their lives for the True Mass rather than the protestantized version that Henry whipped up) would say about this topic.

Have we really gone from “Outside the Church, No Salvation” to “Gee, all nice people go to heaven!”? That’s what I call Disney spirituality.

To those who invoke JPII as an example of “let’s all just get along” spirituality: John Paul II was absolutely scandalous in many, many things, most especially his interfaith novelties.

God have mercy!
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So I take it there isn’t anything about Protestants you admire?
 
Ag_not said:
I dont know anyone in real life with a faith so I have to base my comments on the heretical, Luther Lovin, Calvin clappin, Henry Hugging, seperated heathens Ive met here

Several people like Edwin and Hajnal, to name but two, have always responed to me in great kindness and with great erudition (edwin) and Ive always enjoyed reading their posts. Ive actually found nearly all the non catholics here to be wonderful posters and they demonstrate great passion and charity in their writing. It’s so obvious that most want to just be good people, following their faith. If the world was full of such people we’d be in a much much better place than we are right now.

Course there are at least TWO obvious exceptions - these guys would start a fight in an empty room :rolleyes: But then the others wouldnt look so good if these guys werent so bad 😛
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Look at the contribution Protestant converts have made to the Church. I mean look at the people who started Catholic Answers - Karl Keating etc Are they not converts.

Look at Marcus Grodi, Tim Staples, Scott Hahn, etc etc etc.

What marvellous people. You see tons of them on EWTN.

:clapping: :dancing: :extrahappy:
 
O.S.Luke said:
There are a few pastors in very LARGE parishes who might live lavishly. But as a Protestant pastor, I’ve never personally known another Protestant pastor ANYWHERE who lived “lavishly.” Our kids usually wear clothes from Walmart, we often struggle to pay bills like our church members, we drive used cars with lots of miles on them, and wonder how we are going to send our kids to college - just like our church members. And some Protestant churches and parishes still have the unofficial mantra of “keeping our pastor humble” by paying them less than a fair salary and stipend.

It is good to be a pastor - it is a calling from God and it is a humble privilege to serve Him. And I am blessed to serve a church that is generous in its giving. My denomination owns colleges, universities (such as Duke, Emory, SMU, Boston U), hospitals - all which local congregations support. Bishops and conference (i.e. diocesan) extension ministries and staff are supported. The average UM Church gives 12%-18% of its budget to support the larger denomination and Church.

Like all things, there are certainly exceptions. But as a rule, most Protestant pastors don’t live lavishly - they live very humbly, and most live more humbly than their parishioners.

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You sound like a really good man and must be a treasure to your parishioners.

God bless you
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I appreciate the great love for Sacred Scripture our non-Catholic Christian brothers and sisters have. Their voracious appetite for the Word is an excellent example for other Christians. 👍
 
UKcatholicGuy said:
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Why do you rolling laughing?

I do not envy the Protestants and perhaps never will be. We have everything we need in the Catholic Church. Beside we have the Holy Eucharist, the Pope, Magestrium and Mary. Read my original post and you know what I meant.

But I also do not want to unnecessarily cast aspersions on Protestants because there are good number of them who are good people, our differences aside. My comment on their Pastors living lavishly is based on relative comparison to our priests - maybe not parish priests but definitely the Jesuits, Redemptorists and Franciscans who include the vow of poverty in their vocation.

If I can admire our priests who dedicate their lives to serve God, why can’t I accord the same to Protestant Pastors out of civility and honor for people who believe differently than us? That does not make me agree with them, no, no way I will do. But it does not stop me giving my respect to them. I hope you understand but of course it’s your freedom to take different stance on this. No problem for me.
 
I admire the Protestant denominations that allow women to more fully utilize their gifts and talents than in the Catholic Church.
 
kell0618 said:
I appreciate the great love for Sacred Scripture our non-Catholic Christian brothers and sisters have. Their voracious appetite for the Word is an excellent example for other Christians. 👍
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I don’t! Any Protestant, no matter how ignorant and unlearned, thinks he can interpret Scripture on his own and is guided by the Holy Spirit in doing so. Their “love” for Scripture is precisely the reason they have splintered into 33,000+ sects and growing. Catholics revere and love Scripture just as much–even more, rather–as Protestants. We just don’t think literacy or reading the Bible is essential to living a holy life, though it is certainly a help.
 
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