Things women help men with

[28562]

Take is as you like, I will let the poster defend herself if she wants.

She already said her post was taken the wrong way and that she meant no insult, but apparently you don’t believe her. I’m sorry you feel the need to come to this thread and fight with a ton of women.

But what can ya do.

(I would watch what you say though. Referring to another’s post as being BS isn’t the most charitable thing in the world…)

I’m not trying to fight with anyone. I’m sorry you can’t see that. And I wasn’t saying her post is BS, but the claim that men’s lives don’t change when they have kids IS BS.

I bet there is not a woman on this forum that would like it if a man on here said

“We go to work every day to support our families, so my wife can stay home all day long and not have to worry about the stress of the outside world. All they have to do is watch a kid take naps and we get up at 4am every day and work 12 hour days so we can keep a roof over our head and food on the table. Man, women’s lives sure get easier when kids come along. They get to quit their jobs and stay home with our little blessing, while we have to work harder to ensure that we can give that life to them. We never get a chance to go fishing for a couple hours or do anything else we used to do for fun, because our entire life is consumed with serving our families and forgetting about ourselves. After working 12 hours, we come home and take over most of the responsibilities of taking care of our children because they are too tired and need a break, while we rarely get one. On the weekends, we make sure that the grass is mowed and any odd jobs around the house get completed so she has a nice place to be all week long, while I am working hard…”

Not saying these are my words, just a little example of something that I don’t think would fly on this forum without a bunch of women getting all worked up because ‘we’ say ‘you’ don’t work hard all day in the home. Raise your hand if you disagree…

 

[chevalier]

We do all kinds of hidden chores that never get seen, but would be noticed if they were NOT done.

We cook and do dishes on Sundays so that the rest of the family still has their day of rest while we rarely get one. Same with holidays: we cook the big Christmas dinner, the big Easter dinner, buy and wrap most of the gifts, while the rest of the family enjoys their holiday.

There are no definite hours to our jobs; we are the go-to person for kids who are sick or have bad dreams, and if we work outside the home we are likely to be the ones to stay home if there is a sick child. We clean up the vomit, change more diapers, bandage more cuts. If we have a career, it is generally the one that is the first to go if family needs require it. Or we take dull, underpaid part-time jobs that are an insult to our intelligence and skills, to help the family finances. A lot of Moms end up working at McDonalds or convenience stores or cleaning offices because they abandoned their careers to have children, then the family needed more money; or because they are caring for kids all day and must go off at night to work, already exhausted.

We do the school fundraisers, the craft fairs, the bake sales, the carpooling. We cook for the potlucks so the men can enjoy them. When company comes, we cook it, we serve it, we decorate for it, so you can sit at the table and enjoy it.

If we are at-home Moms, we may also be homeschooling our kids, which means we do TWO unpaid jobs simultaneously. Vacations are usually “on the job.” We usually do the homework help.

(It’s not that men do none of these things; but we do them far more often.)

We bear children and have to watch our bodies change in order to give life to, and nurture, other living beings. Then we worry about whether we are still attractive to our husbands in nursing clothes, clothes with spit-up, new bulges that come from giving birth, no time or freedom to fix our hair or put on make-up, sleep deprivation, self-immolation. Our sacrifices multiply and our lives change radically with each new child, the demands upon us increase, while the husband goes to the same job each day and for those 8 hours his life is pretty much as it’s always been.

Those are a few just off the top of my head.

Where do you find time for Tennyson in all that? And yes, for what it’s worth coming from me, what you say is true. There are, however, some men, perhaps few and between, who make it easier than that. But don’t think a man’s load doesn’t increase as children come and grow (or go away eventually), or that it’s always 8 hours a day. Heck, I remember 40 hours in a ‘day’, not week.

 

[LucyLight]

Hey JohnnyJones and 28562

It’s incredibly rude that you will not let this go. You’ve insisted on derailing this thread and have successfully done so. Congratulations. Go be self indulgent somewhere else. Of all threads…really? :banghead:

 

[28562]

Hey JohnnyJones and 28562

It’s incredibly rude that you will not let this go. You’ve insisted on derailing this thread and have successfully done so. Congratulations. Go be self indulgent somewhere else. Of all threads…really? :banghead:

Yes, we were the *only *ones discussing it, we were just replying to imaginary friends, not actual posters who were discussing as well.

Next time, I’ll be sure to sit idly by while the man bashing continues.

 

[TheRealJuliane]

Yes, we were the *only *ones discussing it, we were just replying to imaginary friends, not actual posters who were discussing as well.

Next time, I’ll be sure to sit idly by while the man bashing continues.

The beatings will continue until morale improves.

 

[28562]

The beatings will continue until morale improves.

Hey, there’s something else you women can help us men with!

 

[VeritasLuxMea]

VeritasLuxMea,

I am sorry that so many people did not take the time to actually read the thread you were referencing first before posting here. This could have been a nice positive thread like the other one had they read it. Instead, it has turned into a place that pits man against woman in a contest of who does more and who has a bad attitude.

Thanks for trying. It’s no wonder you have not been back.

Hey, I’m used to it around here.

Anyway, just want to say that I’m very thankful to the women in my life for all they do (I’m a a man.)

 

[johnnyjones]

Yes, they would, but she has clarified that she did not intend her post to pit the sexes against each other, so she has clarified that that is not what she intended to do. Relax, let it go.

There is no reason to keep saying “relax”. I might well say that to you (but haven’t) considering the inordinate amount of time you’ve spent on defending someone else"s unbalanced post.

 

[johnnyjones]

Hey JohnnyJones and 28562

It’s incredibly rude that you will not let this go. You’ve insisted on derailing this thread and have successfully done so. Congratulations. Go be self indulgent somewhere else. Of all threads…really? :banghead:

Actually you are rude. I’m tired of this "derailing " accusation. Start understanding a mans feelings. If you would have stopped all this defending of her bizzare post, you probably wouldn’t have gotten any more responses.

Without even knowing it you’ve been driving this thread into “derailment”.

 

[MaryBernard]

I’m not trying to fight with anyone. I’m sorry you can’t see that. And I wasn’t saying her post is BS, but the claim that men’s lives don’t change when they have kids IS BS.

She never said that men’s lives don’t change. She said that they still go to work everyday to support their families and during those hours, it is usually the woman who looks after the household chores and the children. There’s nothing insulting about what she said. She was describing the sacrifices that a woman is called to make. She didn’t discuss the sacrifices that real men make for their families because that wasn’t the subject of the thread. It doesn’t mean that she doesn’t realize the sacrifices that men make every minute of every day for their families, just as women do.

Don’t be so defensive; you took her post the wrong way.

 

[28562]

We’ll agree to disagree. I’m done here.

 

[Sillara]

She never said that men’s lives don’t change. She said that they still go to work everyday to support their families and during those hours, it is usually the woman who looks after the household chores and the children. There’s nothing insulting about what she said. She was describing the sacrifices that a woman is called to make. She didn’t discuss the sacrifices that real men make for their families because that wasn’t the subject of the thread. It doesn’t mean that she doesn’t realize the sacrifices that men make every minute of every day for their families, just as women do.

Don’t be so defensive; you took her post the wrong way.

I am a woman, and a home-schooling, stay-at-home mother of six, who also manages a work-from-home part-time job.

And I took her post, apparently, the “wrong way” as well because I found it bitter and insulting to men.

 

[Luna_Lovecraft]

Hey, I’m used to it around here.

Anyway, just want to say that I’m very thankful to the women in my life for all they do (I’m a a man.)

Women can’t win for losing around here a lot of the time.

 

[ladyofshalott]

For the record, I never assumed none of the men on this thread had advanced degrees of had traveled. By mentioning my experiences I was DEFENDING myself against the “potshot” that I sounded like a 1950s housewife (or something like that.)

I find it funny that I am criticized for listing, in my original post, all the things I do that some of the male respondents complain that the women in their lives don’t do! It seems a woman can’t win with you guys. If I say what I actually do, I am criticized. If you know women who DON’T do these things, THEY get criticized. Sounds like a lot of contempt for women.

However the original question was phrased, it pertained to things WOMEN do. It was about what women do to help men. Maybe some men can’t bear to admit that they actually need women or that women actually DO help them. When I refer to things I actually do to help my husband, if I say that some of it is a sacrifice or in any way difficult, I am called “bitter.” It’s sad that some of the men who simply could not let women’s gifts and contributions to their husbands’ lives have the spotlight without crushing them.

The sad thing was, the person (a man I assume?) who posted the original question seemed like he was actually looking for ways to honor his wife. Of course I don’t know his actual intention, but that’s what it sounded like to me. Truth be told, I don’t get a lot of appreciation, and I do a lot of things out of love. It was kind of nice to have someone actually ask that question about women, and to have the chance to actually share some of the things I do in an environment where it sounded like someone was sincerely looking for ways to appreciate women. I thought it would be “safe” to sort of pour out the things I do that often go unappreciated. So, it really hurt to be shot down. Thanks, white sheep.You did fire the first shot.

I am unsubscribing to this thread. I am deeply sorry I ever tried to make a contribution by simply answering what was asked.

 

[Debora123]

For the record, I never assumed none of the men on this thread had advanced degrees of had traveled. By mentioning my experiences I was DEFENDING myself against the “potshot” that I sounded like a 1950s housewife (or something like that.)

I find it funny that I am criticized for listing, in my original post, all the things I do that some of the male respondents complain that the women in their lives don’t do! It seems a woman can’t win with you guys. If I say what I actually do, I am criticized. If you know women who DON’T do these things, THEY get criticized. Sounds like a lot of contempt for women.

However the original question was phrased, it pertained to things WOMEN do. It was about what women do to help men. Maybe some men can’t bear to admit that they actually need women or that women actually DO help them. When I refer to things I actually do to help my husband, if I say that some of it is a sacrifice or in any way difficult, I am called “bitter.” It’s sad that some of the men who simply could not let women’s gifts and contributions to their husbands’ lives have the spotlight without crushing them.

The sad thing was, the person (a man I assume?) who posted the original question seemed like he was actually looking for ways to honor his wife. Of course I don’t know his actual intention, but that’s what it sounded like to me. Truth be told, I don’t get a lot of appreciation, and I do a lot of things out of love. It was kind of nice to have someone actually ask that question about women, and to have the chance to actually share some of the things I do in an environment where it sounded like someone was sincerely looking for ways to appreciate women. I thought it would be “safe” to sort of pour out the things I do that often go unappreciated. So, it really hurt to be shot down. Thanks, white sheep.You did fire the first shot.

I am unsubscribing to this thread. I am deeply sorry I ever tried to make a contribution by simply answering what was asked.

Don’t let the bullies get to you. It says a lot about a man when he starts bullying a woman in the first place.

 

[johnnyjones]

For the record, I never assumed none of the men on this thread had advanced degrees of had traveled. By mentioning my experiences I was DEFENDING myself against the “potshot” that I sounded like a 1950s housewife (or something like that.)

I find it funny that I am criticized for listing, in my original post, all the things I do that some of the male respondents complain that the women in their lives don’t do! It seems a woman can’t win with you guys. If I say what I actually do, I am criticized. If you know women who DON’T do these things, THEY get criticized. Sounds like a lot of contempt for women.

However the original question was phrased, it pertained to things WOMEN do. It was about what women do to help men. Maybe some men can’t bear to admit that they actually need women or that women actually DO help them. When I refer to things I actually do to help my husband, if I say that some of it is a sacrifice or in any way difficult, I am called “bitter.” It’s sad that some of the men who simply could not let women’s gifts and contributions to their husbands’ lives have the spotlight without crushing them.

The sad thing was, the person (a man I assume?) who posted the original question seemed like he was actually looking for ways to honor his wife. Of course I don’t know his actual intention, but that’s what it sounded like to me. Truth be told, I don’t get a lot of appreciation, and I do a lot of things out of love. It was kind of nice to have someone actually ask that question about women, and to have the chance to actually share some of the things I do in an environment where it sounded like someone was sincerely looking for ways to appreciate women. I thought it would be “safe” to sort of pour out the things I do that often go unappreciated. So, it really hurt to be shot down. Thanks, white sheep.You did fire the first shot.

I am unsubscribing to this thread. I am deeply sorry I ever tried to make a contribution by simply answering what was asked.

Women have poured themselves out in defense of your post, some still not knowing what the fuss was about and you continue to play the “victim” after two men at least have tried to explain why they had animosity towards your post… If you are genuinely hurt, I do have compassion for you. I want you to fully understand that men can be hurt to, by generalizations. Women don’t like being generalized and men are starting to speak up afters years of the “he just goes to work” talk. Here’s what it’s all about, “the husband” DOES NOT “go to the same job each day for those 8 hours with his life being pretty much the same”. Those are your words, they are very inaccurate, and they strike at a mans core.

I praise women, and you, for the great things you do for your husband and family, but in addition to the complaining you chose the wrong words to define a man in a thread that asks “things women help MEN with”. God bless, truly.

 

[LightBound]

Come on people…just stop with the bickering back and forth. PLEASE!!!

We now know that the lengthy description of what a women does (LadyofShalot) was simply her stating what can happen “behind the scenes” in a marriage as far as all the things women do that others may not realize. A few men have pointed out that their lives and responsibilities change, too and how they feel about it.

Time to move on…okay?

 

[Debora123]

Come on people…just stop with the bickering back and forth. PLEASE!!!

We now know that the lengthy description of what a women does (LadyofShalot) was simply her stating what can happen “behind the scenes” in a marriage as far as all the things women do that others may not realize. A few men have pointed out that their lives and responsibilities change, too and how they feel about it.

Time to move on…okay?

Sounds perfectly reasonable to me.

 

[Serap]

Would you yell or get upset if someone told you were NEVER giving to the opposite sex? This was all referring to one poster in particular anyway as can clearly be seen… Hey, it’s great to build up women, believe me, but I’m sick of the misrepresentations of men. That’s what needs to “just stop already”.

“A mans job is pretty much as it’s always been”? C’mon, that went out the window years ago. Yes, thankfully many women have successful high paying jobs. So much so that thousands of men do what was traditionally connected to women.

I will chime in to the hilt praising women, but I won’t keep quiet when men are misrepresented.

Good for you! (coming from a woman )

 

[Serap]

For the record, I never assumed none of the men on this thread had advanced degrees of had traveled. By mentioning my experiences I was DEFENDING myself against the “potshot” that I sounded like a 1950s housewife (or something like that.)

I find it funny that I am criticized for listing, in my original post, all the things I do that some of the male respondents complain that the women in their lives don’t do! It seems a woman can’t win with you guys. If I say what I actually do, I am criticized. If you know women who DON’T do these things, THEY get criticized. Sounds like a lot of contempt for women.

However the original question was phrased, it pertained to things WOMEN do. It was about what women do to help men. Maybe some men can’t bear to admit that they actually need women or that women actually DO help them. When I refer to things I actually do to help my husband, if I say that some of it is a sacrifice or in any way difficult, I am called “bitter.” It’s sad that some of the men who simply could not let women’s gifts and contributions to their husbands’ lives have the spotlight without crushing them.

The sad thing was, the person (a man I assume?) who posted the original question seemed like he was actually looking for ways to honor his wife. Of course I don’t know his actual intention, but that’s what it sounded like to me. Truth be told, I don’t get a lot of appreciation, and I do a lot of things out of love. It was kind of nice to have someone actually ask that question about women, and to have the chance to actually share some of the things I do in an environment where it sounded like someone was sincerely looking for ways to appreciate women. I thought it would be “safe” to sort of pour out the things I do that often go unappreciated. So, it really hurt to be shot down. Thanks, white sheep.You did fire the first shot.

I am unsubscribing to this thread. I am deeply sorry I ever tried to make a contribution by simply answering what was asked.

You’re very hostile towards men and it seems like you may have some issues that need to be dealt with.