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First of all, Merry Christmas to everyone reading these words.

I was watching the Papal Mass from St. Peter’s a little earlier, and a thought occurred to me. We have heard a great deal of the new translation of Mass coincident with the Third Typical Edition, which we have just started using in the US. But the Third Typical Edition was promulgated in Latin in 2000, and has been in use by the Vatican for a while now. I didn’t see any difference between what was done in the Papal Mass and the liturgy that we’ve been used to for these past several years (besides the language used).

So besides the new translation (the work of ICEL, Vox Clara, et al.), what are the liturgical differences that have come into force with the Third Typical Edition (the work of CDW, et al.)?
 
TradAvenger said:
First of all, Merry Christmas to everyone reading these words.

I was watching the Papal Mass from St. Peter’s a little earlier, and a thought occurred to me. We have heard a great deal of the new translation of Mass coincident with the Third Typical Edition, which we have just started using in the US. But the Third Typical Edition was promulgated in Latin in 2000, and has been in use by the Vatican for a while now. I didn’t see any difference between what was done in the Papal Mass and the liturgy that we’ve been used to for these past several years (besides the language used).

So besides the new translation (the work of ICEL, Vox Clara, et al.), what are the liturgical differences that have come into force with the Third Typical Edition (the work of CDW, et al.)?
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In the Latin? There are some new Collects for new saints, and three other options for the dismissal besides Ite, missa est. And the new GIRM.
 
I know I’ve seen, somewhere, a list of the changes, and there really isn’t anything that would draw the attention of anyone other than a liturgy geek. Yes, the new dismissal formulae and new saints’ days, as JGMendes, mentions; also, the long form of the Vigil of Pentecost was restored; the beginning of the Apostles’ Creed was erroneously changed from “Credo in deum” to “Credo in unum deum”; and the Sequence, when it occurs, was moved from after the Alleluia to before it.
 
TheMc said:
Then it deserves to be posted here. 😃
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Yeah, well you could google it a year ago, but now just try searching for something like “Third edition missal changes” and getting anything other than information about the translation!
 
MarkThompson said:
Yeah, well you could google it a year ago, but now just try searching for something like “Third edition missal changes” and getting anything other than information about the translation!
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So… who’s going to finish up that time machine soon, so that we can find this document?
 
Vico said:
old.usccb.org/romanmissal/

rcan.org/images/worship/assembly.pdf

old.usccb.org/romanmissal/order-of-mass.pdf
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Again, that’s all about the translation to English, not about the changes that occured in the Latin Third Typical Edition. There have been changes in the timing of certain postures, the one that comes to mind is standing immediately after the priest says “Pray brothers and sisters that my sacrifice and yours…” to give the response, rather than waiting until the response is given to stand up. That change was brought about by IGMR 43.
 
Phemie said:
Again, that’s all about the translation to English, not about the changes that occured in the Latin Third Typical Edition. There have been changes in the timing of certain postures, the one that comes to mind is standing immediately after the priest says “Pray brothers and sisters that my sacrifice and yours…” to give the response, rather than waiting until the response is given to stand up. That change was brought about by IGMR 43.
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**Missale Romanum, Editio typica tertia, Typis Vaticanis A.D. MMII:

clerus.org/bibliaclerusonline/en/t4.htm
 
Phemie said:
Again, that’s all about the translation to English, not about the changes that occured in the Latin Third Typical Edition. There have been changes in the timing of certain postures, the one that comes to mind is standing immediately after the priest says “Pray brothers and sisters that my sacrifice and yours…” to give the response, rather than waiting until the response is given to stand up. That change was brought about by IGMR 43.
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That was always suppose to be the case it was just made clear recently as some were standing before the the priest saying “Pray brothers and sisters that my sacrifice and yours.” and other were standing right after and still others not till the people gave their response.
 
I guess it takes a really hopeless liturgical geek like me to answer the OP’s question.🙂

The most significant rubrical changes (and quite a bit too) deal with the celebration of the Easter Triduum. When the new Missale Romanum was published in 2002, I did a quick translation of the rubrics for the university chaplaincy where I was a student (I had the free time then), so I’m quite familiar with the variations. I’m sorry for delaying response as I was very hesitant to pass on my amateur translation to others.

But finally, I managed to track down the changes on the USCCB website itself. You will be able to read up the changes when you scroll down the page under the *New Missale Romanum and the… *links.

Hope this helps.
 
peregrinus_sg said:
I guess it takes a really hopeless liturgical geek like me to answer the OP’s question.🙂

The most significant rubrical changes (and quite a bit too) deal with the celebration of the Easter Triduum. When the new Missale Romanum was published in 2002, I did a quick translation of the rubrics for the university chaplaincy where I was a student (I had the free time then), so I’m quite familiar with the variations. I’m sorry for delaying response as I was very hesitant to pass on my amateur translation to others.

But finally, I managed to track down the changes on the USCCB website itself. You will be able to read up the changes when you scroll down the page under the *New Missale Romanum and the… *links.

Hope this helps.
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What are the Triduum rubrical changes in the 2002MR versus the previous edition?
 
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