deen:
This may be catchy to the simple-minded, but there are two grave errors in this argument:…
Hi Deen,
If you would notice, I made sure to not write my statement in a way that would
force a man with your faith to make a decision between those 3. Notice how I wrote in the beginning:
Originally Posted by
LuigiColetta
Furthermore, based on the Scriptures, one can only hold Jesus in 3 ways:
So, you view is not based on Scriptures! I wrote that one can only have 3 views of Jesus based on Scriptures, and that is not for the Simple-Minded, it is actually for the non-believers.
Now,
1.
See, For almost 6 centuries before Mohammed (may he rest in peace) allegedly was visited by the angel Gabriel with a revelation about the truth about God, Christians who wrote the Gospels, who read the Gospels, who met together worshipping the One True God(Father, Son and Holy Spirit), were being martered for their belief. They weren’t martered while they were in the offense position, they were being martered just for being called Christians, jews and gentiles alike. There is quite a bit of information from historians, I am not speaking about current ones, but historians over the ages, who write about these Christians and their practices.
2.
Now, here is God. God creates the world, in it humanity. He creates Adam and Eve, they became corrupt by their sin and transmit this fallen nature to all of us. God’s world continues its stories with Noah and so on until Abraham (may he rest in peace). This is were, as far as my basic understanding of Islam is, the different paths are taken between the faith of the Muslims and of the Jews. Am I correct to assume that Moses (may he rest in peace) is not a prophet whose writings you hold to be God’s revealed truth to him?(for he is the first human that we Christians and Jews know wrote the history of our humanity and that of God’s interaction with us) Because if Moses (may he rest in peace) is considered a prophet by Muslims, then Muslims have some of the books of the Torah to be God’s revealed truth in writing. (I say some, because I know at least of Deut. that was written by other scribes based on Moses’ revelation) If the case is that some are prophets, others not, then which prophets of the Old Testaments are considered prophets for Muslims? What about Isaiah (may he rest in peace), was he a prophet for Muslims? If yes, what about his writing in Scriptures? What about his writings of the Christ? I guess my question is, which writings of the Bible are corrupt? (for God either has incorruptible writings, or He doesn’t exist in our lives) So, if even writings in the Old Testament have some corrupt writings, then the whole Bible of the Old Testament is useless, and the Monotheistic religion is not trustworthy. For if the Scriptures is not the written Word of God, in its uncorrupted state (for God is greater than us humans) then we have a God who for from the beginning of Creation, until the 6th Century after Christ, didn’t reveal Himself and allowed his revelation to be written in an incorrupted form. This means, and I hope one can help me understand how this isn’t the case, that God waited until the 6th Century After Christ to send His angel Gabriel to a human being and revealed the truth that until this human being, namely Mohammed (may he rest in peace), nobody had put in an incorrupted written form.
Waiting for further enlightment.
Your brother,
Luigi
There are also many warnings about False prophets coming after Jesus (and these writings were all written well before the 6th Century, and most of them can be proven to be written before the end of the 1st century) Jesus is quoted teaching his Apostles (may they rest in peace) about these False prophets (in Mathew, Mark and Luke) and here is a quote from the letter attributed to St. Peter (may he rest in peace):
2 Peter 2:1 About *
False Teachers and Their Destruction *] But there were also
false prophets among the people, just as there will be
false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even
denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves.
Islam teaches that a wife is not the husband’s property, as such he can’t “brand” her with his name as if it’s his car or his house.