This is why I'll never send my kids to public school

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First of all, in the future and even now Christians will be persecuted for MANY things. I live in NC also and I could not be more proud of the many fine people who came out and supported this ammendment. In response to OP’s issue about the messages on Facebook I say this: I am not on Facebook so the BS that goes down on there does not affect my day one bit.
I agree Christians will always be persecuted in one form or another. I’m just sad because of this particular turning point in American history.

I wish I didn’t have to be on Facebook but I have to use it for work. Plus, sometimes I think it’s good for me to see what’s going on in the world this way so I won’t be in denial about what’s going on in the world around us. I don’t know–it’s hard for me to say whether it’s a good thing or a bad thing 🤷
 
**]I assure you that Catholic schools are not immune from this stuff either. ** 👍

I agree w/ this wholeheartedly.
 
***I don’t know–it’s hard for me to say whether it’s a good thing or a bad thing ***

It’s all how you/people use it. I enjoy it. I catch up w/ cousins & friends out of state/country. And also ones right in my backyard.
 
Regarding Facebook, I use it, but I’m becoming more annoyed. I keep my relatives and friends on it, but I’ve “unfriended” some acquaintances when they’ve argued vehemently against my pro-life views and such. They have a right to their opinion, but not a right to be my Facebook friend.

Just to clarify, I do have friends and family members who don’t agree with me and aren’t Catholic, but I also evaluate whether my relationship (Facebook or otherwise) makes me better or not.

God bless,
Bryan
 
No problem, leave it to their god darwin; “survival of the fittest”. Since 2 males or 2 females can’t reproduce, they’ll just go extinct.
I’m no Darwin worshipper, but I do know that approximately 8-10% of the population is homosexual depending on which studies you review. Given that homosexuals are not miraculously conceived by someone who only has sex with a same sex partner, the inability for homosexuals to procreate would not logically result in their extinction.

Anectdotally, all the homosexual people I know were born of a heterosexual marriages, so I just do not see how extinction results based upon homosexuals inability to reproduce naturally.

Please disregard if your remark was tongue in cheek. It is hard to infer tone on a message board!
 
I pray that the key in helping my teens combat all the pro gay stuff coming at them both at school and sadly within their own family (cousin) is their ability to come home and vent and discuss and pray. Also I am very very happy that they have awesome youth leaders in their youth group at church.
My daughters have asked us to distance ourselves from extended family functions, especially if those functions usually lead to an attack on our beliefs and we are usually called intollerant for not embracing my nephews life choice. We have stayed away and even that choice of ours comes under serious criticism, but so be it. I’d rather stay away and be happy with my children than go around and be forced to bite my tongue for peace sake the whole time having the pro gay agenda shoved down our throat.
 
First of all, in the future and even now Christians will be persecuted for MANY things. I live in NC also and I could not be more proud of the many fine people who came out and supported this ammendment. In response to OP’s issue about the messages on Facebook I say this: I am not on Facebook so the BS that goes down on there does not affect my day one bit.
I’m right there with you!

Except for your username…:nope:

Go Heels!:D:D
 
There’s an old adage about “never say never…”

Before I became a mom, I said that I would never send my child(ren) to public school. I had many reasons for this, including the ones you posted about.

Then I had a child with multiple disabilities: autism, vision impairment, language processing disorder, and others. The Catholic schools in my area simply do not have the resources to work with my child. The public schools do. Sure, there is homeschooling, but in the current economy both my husband and I need to work. Plus, my son needs the specialized teaching methods and therapies that the school can provide. So I have had to learn the public school system, and the special education system, and how to make that work for our family. My son is thriving in a special education classroom at our local public school.

Sometimes God - in His infinite wisdom - sends you different challenges than the ones you expect.
 
There’s an old adage about “never say never…”

Before I became a mom, I said that I would never send my child(ren) to public school. I had many reasons for this, including the ones you posted about.

Then I had a child with multiple disabilities: autism, vision impairment, language processing disorder, and others. The Catholic schools in my area simply do not have the resources to work with my child. The public schools do. Sure, there is homeschooling, but in the current economy both my husband and I need to work. Plus, my son needs the specialized teaching methods and therapies that the school can provide. So I have had to learn the public school system, and the special education system, and how to make that work for our family. My son is thriving in a special education classroom at our local public school.

Sometimes God - in His infinite wisdom - sends you different challenges than the ones you expect.
I understand. Each child and each family is different, and I have no way of knowing what the future holds. But in general I can see that my brothers and many of my peers lost their faith as a result of the education system. I consider it a miracle that I escaped with my faith intact. My parents put some of us in a “good” public school because they felt they had no choice, and they were vigilant about making sure we were taught the Catholic faith outside of the classroom. At the time I thought their choices were correct, but in hindsight I think it was a mistake.

I can’t judge your and your decisions, or anyone else here. But I feel lately that my eyes have been fully opened to the reality of what is happening in the schools (public and private). The brainwashing is subtle and insidious, and extremely dangerous.
 
There’s an old adage about “never say never…”

Before I became a mom, I said that I would never send my child(ren) to public school. I had many reasons for this, including the ones you posted about.

Then I had a child with multiple disabilities: autism, vision impairment, language processing disorder, and others. The Catholic schools in my area simply do not have the resources to work with my child. The public schools do. Sure, there is homeschooling, but in the current economy both my husband and I need to work. Plus, my son needs the specialized teaching methods and therapies that the school can provide. So I have had to learn the public school system, and the special education system, and how to make that work for our family. My son is thriving in a special education classroom at our local public school.

Sometimes God - in His infinite wisdom - sends you different challenges than the ones you expect.
There will always be exceptions. Illness, death of a parent, a severely disabled child, but my first choice will always be to homeschool our children. It seems reasonable to believe that a disabled child is not as likely to be influenced in the same way as a “typical” child, and certainly there may be times that the advantages of specialized therapies etc. may out weight the risks.

However regarding hard economic times, if my husband and I are both living and able and if we should suddenly find ourselves in need of additional income then we would go to working opposite hours before making the choice to send them to public school. I’ve been a SAHM for a long time, but in the beginning, that is exactly what we chose to do to avoid daycare.

As a parent I believe that I will often be called to make sacrifices for the sake of our children and while giving up my dream career for a less satisfying job felt a bit like one in the beginning it allowed me to be able to fulfill my duties in caring for and educating our children so I willingly did so. I take the command in scripture to teach them diligently very seriously.

Deuteronomy 6:6-9 And these words that I command you today shall be on your heart. You shall teach them diligently to your children, and shall talk of them when you sit in your house, and when you walk by the way, and when you lie down, and when you rise. You shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes. You shall write them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates.

I’m not saying it’s impossible when they are at school all day and then busy with homework activities etc. but it sure makes it a lot more challenging. Add into that the increasing indoctrination done in public schools in regards to so many things that go against Church Teachings and Christian morals and beliefs and well I’d do just about anything to avoid it.
 
This week just about everyone I went to high school or college with has been pushing the pro-homosexuality agenda on their facebook page (I grew up in NC and they had a vote this week on a constitutional amendment to define marriage as between a man and a woman).

I can look back to the 10+ years ago when we were in school and say with certainty that these seeds were all being planted back then by our teachers and mentors (and now many of these people are teachers themselves). Some of these people were even converts to the Catholic faith, and I see that they now label themselves as atheists.
Just trying to keep your children sheltered from other peoples opinions which you (and I this case, I also) disagree with wont neccissarily help. What about when they do go to collage. No Mommy or Daddy to shelter them there. Home schooling may be better, I could not say because I did go to public school. But because I went to public school I heard and saw lots of bad things. I remember the president of the “Gay and stright alliance” comming up to my group of friends and me, asking us to come to their first meeting and that same person telling me in class all the time that there is nothing at all wrong with a man being with another man, and a woman being with another woman. Just because I was shown and told these things, I did not mean I later came to accept them.

I do not remember any teachers touching the subject, except one who when asked what he thought about gay people, said “I dont care what they do.” If a public school teacher started telling my Kid that he is wrong for believing marriage can only be between a man and a woman, or that eating meat is wrong or some other liberal tree hugger hippie propeganda(and I do somewhat say that as a term of endearment :D), I would respectfully ask that teacher to let me worry about educating my child on such matters.

Worry more about your child getting involved with criminal activity or drugs in public school.
 
However regarding hard economic times, if my husband and I are both living and able and if we should suddenly find ourselves in need of additional income then we would go to working opposite hours before making the choice to send them to public school. I’ve been a SAHM for a long time, but in the beginning, that is exactly what we chose to do to avoid daycare.

As a parent I believe that I will often be called to make sacrifices for the sake of our children and while giving up my dream career for a less satisfying job felt a bit like one in the beginning it allowed me to be able to fulfill my duties in caring for and educating our children so I willingly did so. I take the command in scripture to teach them diligently very seriously.
My husband and I sacrificed a lot so that I could be a SAHM during our son’s toddler-hood and preschool years. (God has blessed us with only the one child and the fact that he survived pregnancy is a miracle.) Those were years of great difficulty for us, as we were going through much medical testing, trying to understand his diagnoses, and setting up various therapies.

Unfortunately, we came to the point where I had to return to work. I’m not doing my “dream career”; I’m providing for my child’s needs, including paying for his medical care. I am lucky to work for a small company that gives me flexible hours to attend his many doctor’s appointments and school meetings.

It’s great that some parents are able to work opposite shifts so they can split childcare responsibilities. This isn’t an option for everyone.

I take the commandment to teach my child diligently very seriously too. I don’t rely on the public school to teach my child everything. It would be impossible to. I have a child who needs to be explicitly taught everything - he does not “pick up” things by inference or imitation like typical children do. We are constantly teaching him: academics, language, communication, social skills, behavior, self-regulation, motor skills, self-care, etc.
 
My husband and I sacrificed a lot so that I could be a SAHM during our son’s toddler-hood and preschool years. (God has blessed us with only the one child and the fact that he survived pregnancy is a miracle.) Those were years of great difficulty for us, as we were going through much medical testing, trying to understand his diagnoses, and setting up various therapies.

Unfortunately, we came to the point where I had to return to work. I’m not doing my “dream career”; I’m providing for my child’s needs, including paying for his medical care. I am lucky to work for a small company that gives me flexible hours to attend his many doctor’s appointments and school meetings.

It’s great that some parents are able to work opposite shifts so they can split childcare responsibilities. This isn’t an option for everyone.

I take the commandment to teach my child diligently very seriously too. I don’t rely on the public school to teach my child everything. It would be impossible to. I have a child who needs to be explicitly taught everything - he does not “pick up” things by inference or imitation like typical children do. We are constantly teaching him: academics, language, communication, social skills, behavior, self-regulation, motor skills, self-care, etc.
I’m sorry I didn’t mean to imply that you are not making sacrifices or doing the best you can for your child. Your obviously a devoted mom, doing the best you can for your child. I think though that your type of situation is an exception and not the norm for most who utilize public schools. It’s a personal choice no doubt, and like every topic we all bring our personal experiences and lives to the discussion and I’m sorry if I did not respect that.

God Bless.
 
Just trying to keep your children sheltered from other peoples opinions which you (and I this case, I also) disagree with wont neccissarily help. What about when they do go to collage. No Mommy or Daddy to shelter them there. Home schooling may be better, I could not say because I did go to public school. But because I went to public school I heard and saw lots of bad things. I remember the president of the “Gay and stright alliance” comming up to my group of friends and me, asking us to come to their first meeting and that same person telling me in class all the time that there is nothing at all wrong with a man being with another man, and a woman being with another woman. Just because I was shown and told these things, I did not mean I later came to accept them.

I do not remember any teachers touching the subject, except one who when asked what he thought about gay people, said “I dont care what they do.” If a public school teacher started telling my Kid that he is wrong for believing marriage can only be between a man and a woman, or that eating meat is wrong or some other liberal tree hugger hippie propeganda(and I do somewhat say that as a term of endearment :D), I would respectfully ask that teacher to let me worry about educating my child on such matters.

Worry more about your child getting involved with criminal activity or drugs in public school.
No there will not be a mommy or daddy to shelter them at college. However, comparing sending a 5 or 10 year old or even a 15 year old out into the world to learn from peers who don’t have a clue and to learn from a public school system with a definite liberal agenda while their conscience is still being formed to that of sending off an older college age student who has already been well educated on such manners from a Catholic standpoint is not a very effective argument to be pro-public school.

Good luck telling any public school teacher what they can teach your children. The public school system and what they are teaching is changing at lightning speed. What children were taught 5-10 years ago is different than what is being taught now. Many States have MANDATORY inclusion of same sex couples education and teach that they are just another type of family from the time children enter Kindy. It will only continue to get more involved from there. Many parent’s aren’t involved in everything that is going on at school day to day, and are usually unaware that during story time their Kindy aged children are being read books like “Heather has Two Mommies” or that their older children are being taught from a Mandatory Curriculum that will promote homosexuality and masturbation in some places.

I think it’s safe to say that this will only grow more and more prevalent and that it will be mixed into various subjects in subtle ways.

I want to teach my children from the Catholic perspective at an appropriate age about such things. That doesn’t mean I’m over-sheltering them, it means I’m sheltering them enough to grow up in a secure environment, where they have time to develop a sense of normal and right before facing the issues that they will no doubt deal with in the world.
 
No there will not be a mommy or daddy to shelter them at college. However, comparing sending a 5 or 10 year old or even a 15 year old out into the world to learn from peers who don’t have a clue and to learn from a public school system with a definite liberal agenda while their conscience is still being formed to that of sending off an older college age student who has already been well educated on such manners from a Catholic standpoint is not a very effective argument to be pro-public school.

Good luck telling any public school teacher what they can teach your children. The public school system and what they are teaching is changing at lightning speed. What children were taught 5-10 years ago is different than what is being taught now. Many States have MANDATORY inclusion of same sex couples education and teach that they are just another type of family from the time children enter Kindy. It will only continue to get more involved from there. Many parent’s aren’t involved in everything that is going on at school day to day, and are usually unaware that during story time their Kindy aged children are being read books like “Heather has Two Mommies” or that their older children are being taught from a Mandatory Curriculum that will promote homosexuality and masturbation in some places.

I think it’s safe to say that this will only grow more and more prevalent and that it will be mixed into various subjects in subtle ways.

I want to teach my children from the Catholic perspective at an appropriate age about such things. That doesn’t mean I’m over-sheltering them, it means I’m sheltering them enough to grow up in a secure environment, where they have time to develop a sense of normal and right before facing the issues that they will no doubt deal with in the world.
Im not pro or anti public school. I understand where you are comming from. I want to raise my children with a good Catholic morals. I dont have children now so I do not know what is the difference between what schools are like 10 years ago (when I was in school) and now. However I remember being taught evolution in school and it making sense. I also remember my telling my Mother that what our teacher is telling us conflicts with Christianity. I remember my Mother telling me to study and do not make a big deal about it. Just know that it is not completly right. Basicly she told me to play dumb.

And young college kids are still impressionable. Just because a person turns 18, it does not make them a adult, with a adult mind. My point was that parents can influence their children, but at the end, they will make their own decisions on what to believe regardless. There is no guarentee that sheltering your children from being influenced by public school teachers and their peers will keep them from falling into the beliefs that you do not want them to fall into. When they finally do get some freedom and are able to decide for themselfs what they think is right or not, they might go wild. Dont say you would not let it happen, because it can.

I remember a commedian telling a joke… “I went to Catholic school my whole life. People often ask me, why am I not Catholic then? I tell them… DIDDNT YOU JUST HEAR ME? I TOLD YOU… BECAUSE I WENT TO CATHOLIC SCHOOL MY WHOLE LIFE.”

But of course I could be wrong. I frequently am. But then again I was raised by my Grandparents and their generation makes mine, and the younger one look like punks. I guess I am just Old-School in that way though. Just my opinion.
 
Matthew 5:14-16
You are the light of the world. A city set on a mountain cannot be hidden. Nor do they light a lamp and then put it under a bushel basket; it is set on a lampstand, where it gives light to all in the house. Just so, your light must shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your heavenly Father.

There are good public schools and good people in them that deserve to see and interact with faithful Catholics. As St Francis said, “Preach the Gospel always, and if necessary, use words”.

If you want to turn the tide of the culture wars, you need to actually be on the front lines fighting.
 
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