Thos who don't believe in "the Big Bang"

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As we all know the Big Bang is a scientist way of explaining the creation on earth.
This ‘Big Bang’ was the results a result of a huge supernovic implosion. As far as we know, the force it created must have been the equivalent to 300 billion nuclear bombs.
Many religions have completely discarded this believe but… if you think about a huge power must have been behind the force created, if you are catholic you, quite rightly, belive God created the earth in seven days, but why isn’t it possible that God was this ‘huge power’ that created the big bang. Surely this make more sense…
 
If the big bang theory was true why is it that some of the planets turn the opposite way? :confused: God Bless
 
I agree with Jon’s argument. It is more logical, and allows science and Religion to co-exist.
 
Though I doubt that the creation of the universe is the result of a supernovic explosion (ie. the death of a star), as there would be no stars to die before the existence of the universe.
 
I can’t disagree with the idea that it all started with a big flash of light.
 
What do you mean by planets orbiting the other way Spokenword?
 
As a student at Notre Dame, I am currently in a Cosmology class taught by a professional astronomer. Although he is a very smart, scientific man, he says that there is no reason for science and religion not to exist together. While science should not become religion and religion should not become science, there is room for them both to exist together.

In regards to the Big Bang, specifically, I, as a devout Catholic, believe that there was a certain “Guided Evolution.” That, although it seems the universe has taken its natural course, it is all under the “guidance” of God. In other words, God did not just create something and waited to see what happened. No, God knew what he was creating and where it was going to go. (There are certain variations on this… like… How active a role God played in evolution… but they all have the same idea.)

I mean, I don’t want to get into a creation vs. evolution debate… but there is middle ground.

Although the universe is actually all really well explained by a “Big Bang” (planets can spin the other way due to some random occuerence, such as a meteor strike, a fluke formation, etc.), scientists don’t know what happened before 10^(-43) seconds after creation. Scients just… don’t have it all nailed down yet. That’s why, many astronomers and cosmologists still find reason for God even in the midst of their science.

WARNING: Do not fall into believing a “God of the gaps.” Although we tend to explain things that we don’t understand with God, remember to always step back and look at the glory of creation as it is, and not how it is not. Instead of wondering about things we cannot know, look at what is and just be amazed at how everything worked out.
 
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What do you mean by planets orbiting the other way Spokenword?
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Think about it . Everything is sent out into space spinning in one direction because of the force of the explosion. I,m not talking about orbiting. :confused: God Bless
 
But that could still be caused by the random scientific occurence theory though couldn’t it? I personally agree with Zahmir, Science and Religion should be as one. Also that we should marvel in the complexity of the universe - God’s divine creation. I think that God is the first cause of everything - ie. God is the cause that caused the succession of events that led to the big bang.
 
I’m not sure where on the forum I saw this, but someone stated that a Vatican scientist formulated the Big Bang Theory - any references anyone? :confused:
 
As we all know the Big Bang is a scientist way of explaining the creation on earth.
This ‘Big Bang’ was the results a result of a huge supernovic implosion. As far as we know, the force it created must have been the equivalent to 300 billion nuclear bombs.
Many religions have completely discarded this believe but… if you think about a huge power must have been behind the force created, if you are catholic you, quite rightly, belive God created the earth in seven days, but why isn’t it possible that God was this ‘huge power’ that created the big bang. Surely this make more sense…
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Mikeyanity states that a big band occured, and then from this a JCB digger truck was created, this truck then made the entire earth, am I not correct?

Your point does make logical sense, Catholics vary in their beliefs, some will have more "orthodox beliefs: - stickly more strcitly to scripture, and others more “heterodox beliefs” ( taking scripture less literally. I would say I am somewhere between the two on this, I dont quite believe in the 7 day theory, but this world is far to intracite to have been created merely from a big explosion.
 
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Think about it . Everything is sent out into space spinning in one direction because of the force of the explosion. I,m not talking about orbiting. :confused: God Bless
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Why would everything be spinning the same direction? Can you give us the scientific explanation for such a statement?
I’ve seen explosions and things go in all directions!
 
The cosmology student told us it was possible! But it is God that brought it all together…
 
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Think about it . Everything is sent out into space spinning in one direction because of the force of the explosion. I,m not talking about orbiting. :confused: God Bless
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At the time of the big bang, there were no planets–or even particles–to spin. The matter-energy present in the big bang had to cool sufficiently before even elementary particles could form. Condensation of stars, galaxies, and solar systems came much later, and the rotation of planets would have depended on the rotation of the condensate surrounding the central star.

Also, one shouldn’t think of the big bang as an explosion of material into existing space. Both matter-energy and space-time would have been simultaneously expanding.
 
“A common misconception is that the big bang provides a theory of cosmic origins. It doesn’t. The big bang is a theory, partly described in the last two chapters, that delineates cosmic evolution from a split second after whatever happened to bring the universe into existence, but it says nothing at all about time zero itself. And since, according to the big bang theory, the bang is what is supposed to have happened at the beginning, the big bang leaves out the bang. It tells us nothing about what banged, why it banged, how it banged, or frankly, whether it ever really banged at all.”.

Brian Greene, The Fabric of the Cosmos. Ch. 10
 
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I’m not sure where on the forum I saw this, but someone stated that a Vatican scientist formulated the Big Bang Theory - any references anyone? :confused:
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Not a Vatican scientist, but a devoted Catholic priest. Fr George Lemaitre. The Big Bang Theory remains, IMO, one of the most brilliant scientific theories ever devised, and perfectly compatible with the Faith. What’s more, the aspects of it that are purely theistic are also nearly impossible to jetison without destroying the whole theory; atheists have been trying unsuccessfully for decades now. Every major new discovery in astrophysics has backed up, rather than refuted, the original theory, sometimes even the most questionable aspects of it (such as eternal expansion, rather than a “Big Crunch” as the universe slows down and gets pulled back together).

Science is showing that there can only be one Big Bang, and that the Big Bang is effectively impossible by natural laws. It’s the closest we come to a scientific proof of a Creator God, IMO.

Peace and God bless!
 
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Archangel-Jon:
As we all know the Big Bang is a scientist way of explaining the creation on earth.
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Actually, in the strict sense, this is not correct. The Big Bang is a theory relating to the creation of the universe – not merely the planet earth. Sol, which is the star our planet orbits, is, at best, a 2nd or even 3rd generation star.
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Archangel-Jon:
This ‘Big Bang’ was the results a result of a huge supernovic implosion. As far as we know, the force it created must have been the equivalent to 300 billion nuclear bombs.
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A “huge supernovic implosion” would be an understatement by several zillion orders of magnitude!
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Archangel-Jon:
Many religions have completely discarded this believe but… if you think about a huge power must have been behind the force created, if you are catholic you, quite rightly, belive God created the earth in seven days, but why isn’t it possible that God was this ‘huge power’ that created the big bang. Surely this make more sense…
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There is nothing in Catholic theology which would contradict the theoretical concept of a Big Bang.

Blessings,
 
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If the big bang theory was true why is it that some of the planets turn the opposite way? :confused: God Bless
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Non sequitor. Unless I’m REALLY missing something.

Blessings,
 
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If the big bang theory was true why is it that some of the planets turn the opposite way? :confused: God Bless
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This is false logic. The direction of the planets orpital spin has nothing to do with the big bang theory. The big bang theory in a nutshell states that an explosion occured everywhere at the same time. This is possible if the universe was incrediablely small. The big bang theory does not state how that explosion took place. Personally I don’t see anything wrong with this theory. I think it is a very likely theory even though it has not been proven true. And this does not hinder the creation story in the Bible.
 
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