Thos who don't believe in "the Big Bang"

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Think about it . Everything is sent out into space spinning in one direction because of the force of the explosion. I,m not talking about orbiting. :confused: God Bless
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Except that neither the earth nor the sun were created in the Big Bang. The sun is a second-generation star, and the earth is part of the process that led to the formation of that star.
 
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JimG:
At the time of the big bang, there were no planets–or even particles–to spin. The matter-energy present in the big bang had to cool sufficiently before even elementary particles could form. Condensation of stars, galaxies, and solar systems came much later, and the rotation of planets would have depended on the rotation of the condensate surrounding the central star.

Also, one shouldn’t think of the big bang as an explosion of material into existing space. Both matter-energy and space-time would have been simultaneously expanding.
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Not according to Gods Word. In the beginning God created the HEAVENS and the earth.(Gen 1;1) :confused: God Bless
 
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Not according to Gods Word. In the beginning God created the HEAVENS and the earth.(Gen 1;1) :confused: God Bless
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How is that at odds with the Big Bang theory?
 
The Big Bang, according to scientists, took place between 10 and 15 billion years ago. It took awhile (ooo… three minutes or so) for protons to actually come together and form helium, and longer for the electrons to actually settle in their orbits around these atoms. For awhile, all there was was hydrogen and helium… eventually, EXTREMELY large clouds of gas condensed under the force of gravity and formed galaxies and stars. These stars produced the heavier elements: carbon, oxygen, nitrogen, etc. (All the matter you see around you originated in a star… your computer, your chair, you.) As stars blew up or died out, there was a lot more dust and gas floating around, which condensed, and formed more stars and the planets. I don’t know what “generation” star the Sun is, but you get the idea.

I hope this all makes sense to you… But realize that after 10(-43) seconds, scientists can describe the universe relatively well, but not before that.

A little sidenote, due to the astronomical distances that we can see in space, we end up actually seeing into the past, since the light can only travel a finite speed. I forget exactly how far back we can see… but… certainly, billions of years.
 
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Zahmir:
The Big Bang, according to scientists, took place between 10 and 15 billion years ago. It took awhile (ooo… three minutes or so) for protons to actually come together and form helium, and longer for the electrons to actually settle in their orbits around these atoms. For awhile, all there was was hydrogen and helium… eventually, EXTREMELY large clouds of gas condensed under the force of gravity and formed galaxies and stars. These stars produced the heavier elements: carbon, oxygen, nitrogen, etc. (All the matter you see around you originated in a star… your computer, your chair, you.) As stars blew up or died out, there was a lot more dust and gas floating around, which condensed, and formed more stars and the planets. I don’t know what “generation” star the Sun is, but you get the idea.

I hope this all makes sense to you… But realize that after 10(-43) seconds, scientists can describe the universe relatively well, but not before that.

A little sidenote, due to the astronomical distances that we can see in space, we end up actually seeing into the past, since the light can only travel a finite speed. I forget exactly how far back we can see… but… certainly, billions of years.
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Now how can that be ? Gods creation is no older than 6500 years. :eek: God Bless
 
Seeing as that you take the Bible more literally than others, I can see what you are stunned. I don’t want to convince you otherwise, but realize that it’s not a sin to believe that the universe isn’t 6500 years old. But really… does it matter whether the universe is 6500 or 15 billion years old? Nope… because God still created it. I just have a more… shall we say… scientific mind. 🙂
 
I don’t think that anywhere it scripture is there a figure given for the age of the universe. Certainly the number 6,500 years is not stated in Genesis. Nor was it the intention of the book of Genesis to teach anything about the age of the universe. Why would that be a matter of religion, or of something necessary to know for our salvation?
 
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When approximatly are you saying the Big Bang accured?. :confused: God Bless
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The Big Bang, as was posted earlier, was more than 10 billion years ago. The earth is about 4 billion years old.
 
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What’s this 2nd - 3rd generation star stuff mean?
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Stars are formed by gas and gravity. Clouds of gas and other matter condense under the force of gravity. When they reach a certain size, the gravitational force in the center of the mass undergoes a nuclear transformation – thus creating what we call a star.

Stars also “die” as the nuclear material is used up. One way they die is by becoming novas – exploding and sending their matter out into space again.

This matter may later condense with other matter, forming another star.
 
vern humphrey:
This matter may later condense with other matter, forming another star.
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So how do we decided that our sun is 2nd or 3rd generation?
 
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Dandelion_Wine:
So how do we decided that our sun is 2nd or 3rd generation?
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It can’t be first generation – it’s not old enough. If it had been formed in the first few billion years after the Big Bang, it would long agohave died.

On the other hand, if it were third generation, it would be much younger than it is.
 
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Dandelion_Wine:
So how do we decided that our sun is 2nd or 3rd generation?
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Because of the presence of elements heavier than Hydrogen and Helium.
 
vern humphrey:
The Big Bang, as was posted earlier, was more than 10 billion years ago. The earth is about 4 billion years old.
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Not according to Gods Word. The earth is less than 6500 years. :confused: God Bless
 
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JimG:
I don’t think that anywhere it scripture is there a figure given for the age of the universe. Certainly the number 6,500 years is not stated in Genesis. Nor was it the intention of the book of Genesis to teach anything about the age of the universe. Why would that be a matter of religion, or of something necessary to know for our salvation?
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If you traced each generation back to Adam you would see its correct. :confused: God Bless
 
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Not according to Gods Word. The earth is less than 6500 years. :confused: God Bless
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Certainly not in Scripture. And by whose authority do you presume to interpret Scripture?
 
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