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What about those Baptist denominations that believe that if you do not get baptised you will indefinately go to hell!?
 
Most Baptists I know believe that the act of baptism is an outward symbolic act that reflects the inward act of accepting Christ. Therefore the act of baptism to a Baptist is not specifically required in much the same way as I am still a year older on my birthday regardless of whether or not I have a party
 
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Most Baptists I know believe that the act of baptism is an outward symbolic act that reflects the inward act of accepting Christ. Therefore the act of baptism to a Baptist is not specifically required in much the same way as I am still a year older on my birthday regardless of whether or not I have a party
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…I see you iz swimming the tiber?
 
Well, there’s quite a few Baptist denominations. The largest of them all, Southern Baptists, do not believe this.
Wikipedia.org:
For the main majority of all Baptists, Christian baptism is the immersion of a believer in water in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.[Mt. 28:19] It is an act of obedience symbolizing the believer’s faith in a crucified, buried, and risen Saviour, the believer’s death to sin, the burial of the old life, and the resurrection to walk in newness of life in Christ Jesus. It is a testimony to the believer’s faith in the final resurrection of the dead.[131]

Most Baptists believe that baptism in itself does not convey salvation or transformation, but is a sign of what has already happened in a spiritual sense to a new believer. Since it is considered not to bestow “saving grace” or be salvific as such, Baptists consider it an “ordinance” rather than a “sacrament.” Being a church “ordinance”—a teaching of the Bible that Jesus intended his followers to observe,[132] it is prerequisite to the privileges of church membership and to the Lord’s Supper (Baptist’s preferred term for communion).[131]

Baptism cannot be separated from one’s doctrine of Christ, since Christ himself was baptized and his redemptive work is depicted in baptism by immersion as a new relationship in Christ which all believers enjoy.[132]

Baptists also believe that baptism is an important way of professing one’s faith in Christ. Typically, adults, youth, or older children who understand the commitment of faith to Christ and wish to respond to God’s call are acceptable candidates for baptism.[132]

Baptists have been criticized because their rejection of infant baptism appears to have no place for children in an adult or believers’ church. Instead of baptizing young children and infants, Baptists prefer to dedicate children to the Lord in a public church service where the parents and the members of the church are called upon to live exemplary lives before children, and to teach them the ways of the Lord. Water baptism is not an element in that service.
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Yeah, I never heard of a baptist believing that before.

One relative of mine was Church of Christ, and they believed that you would go to hell without baptism. But baptism in “THE CHURCH OF CHRIST” I suppose a former baptism did not count.

Now when I was little there was a Baptist church that made new members be baptized. My mom’s catholic one did not count in their eyes to begin with. .
 
Auriel said:
Yeah, I never heard of a baptist believing that before.

One relative of mine was Church of Christ, and they believed that you would go to hell without baptism. But baptism in “THE CHURCH OF CHRIST” I suppose a former baptism did not count.

Now when I was little there was a Baptist church that made new members be baptized. My mom’s catholic one did not count in their eyes to begin with. .
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That’s odd… most churches accept other baptisms (as long as they were not baptised a mormon).
 
Zundrah said:
That’s odd… most churches accept other baptisms (as long as they were not baptised a mormon).
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Yeah, but many Baptists (not all) kind of blend like oil and water with anything Catholic.

lol
 
Zundrah said:
That’s odd… most churches accept other baptisms (as long as they were not baptised a mormon).
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You are seeing the difference between baptism and belivers baptism. Consider the congrgational nature of Baptist Churches, many will not accept a transfer membership and “proof” of baptism at your prior church home. To join their fellowship you profess your faith in God before that community and you are then baptised, by immersion. Only thedn you can become a member of that local congregation.
 
4Squarebaby said:
You are seeing the difference between baptism and belivers baptism. Consider the congrgational nature of Baptist Churches, many will not accept a transfer membership and “proof” of baptism at your prior church home. To join their fellowship you profess your faith in God before that community and you are then baptised, by immersion. Only thedn you can become a member of that local congregation.
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That sounds like comfirmation at a catholic church! (With out the baptism)
 
4Squarebaby said:
You are seeing the difference between baptism and belivers baptism. Consider the congrgational nature of Baptist Churches, many will not accept a transfer membership and “proof” of baptism at your prior church home. To join their fellowship you profess your faith in God before that community and you are then baptised, by immersion. Only thedn you can become a member of that local congregation.
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Strange, I was a Baptist for almost 40 years, only time anabaptism was required
was if the person was baptised as an infant or without the Trinitarian formula or a non-Christian baptism. Immersion was the only baptism.:rolleyes:

Transfers were accepted on “profession of faith” to the pastor, deacons or church as a whole. The profession could be your “testimony” or just the pastor tell the congregation of the profession. Or you could transfer your “letter”. A letter from your previous congregation to the new one stating you were a member in good standing.

As it was stated in prior, for a Baptist, Baptism is only obedience to Christ. It does not mean or confer anything. Just an act of obedience to Christ’s command.

Fr. Mark
REC-ACNA
 
Zundrah said:
What about those Baptist denominations that believe that if you do not get baptised you will indefinately go to hell!?
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Strange. Can’t say that this was the case of the Calvary Baptist Church that I grew up in. This is a independent Church though.
 
I’ve never heard of a Baptist church believing in the true doctrine of the salvific nature of baptism.
 
Holly3278 said:
I’ve never heard of a Baptist church believing in the true doctrine of the salvific nature of baptism.
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Neither have I.

Several in this thread mentioned the various types of Baptist church they attend. I think that is what confuses many. They all have their differences even though they are Baptist.

Here is a joke that kind of explains in a strange way what I mean by that.

**Two men were on a cruise ship together and began to talk. Finally one of them asked,

“Do you believe in God?” He said, “Yes.”

I asked, “Are you a Christian or a Jew?” He said, “A Christian.” I said, “Me, too!

Protestant or Catholic?” He said, “Protestant.” I said, “Me, too!

What denomination?” He said, “Baptist.” I said, “Me, too!

Northern Baptist or Southern Baptist?” He said, “Northern Baptist.” I said, “Me, too!

Northern Conservative Baptist or Northern Moderate Baptist?”

He said, “Northern Conservative Baptist.” I said, “Me, too!

Are you of the Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region, or Northern Conservative Baptist Eastern Region?”

He said, “Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region.” I said, “Me, too!”

Are you of the Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879, or Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912?”

He said, “Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912.”

I said, “Die, you heretic!”

**
 
Auriel said:
Neither have I.

Several in this thread mentioned the various types of Baptist church they attend. I think that is what confuses many. They all have their differences even though they are Baptist.

Here is a joke that kind of explains in a strange way what I mean by that.

**Two men were on a cruise ship together and began to talk. Finally one of them asked,

“Do you believe in God?” He said, “Yes.”

I asked, “Are you a Christian or a Jew?” He said, “A Christian.” I said, “Me, too!

Protestant or Catholic?” He said, “Protestant.” I said, “Me, too!

What denomination?” He said, “Baptist.” I said, “Me, too!

Northern Baptist or Southern Baptist?” He said, “Northern Baptist.” I said, “Me, too!

Northern Conservative Baptist or Northern Moderate Baptist?”

He said, “Northern Conservative Baptist.” I said, “Me, too!

Are you of the Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region, or Northern Conservative Baptist Eastern Region?”

He said, “Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region.” I said, “Me, too!”

Are you of the Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879, or Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912?”

He said, “Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912.”

I said, “Die, you heretic!”

**
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Hey you need to go onto my thread called; Catholic vs protestant jokes!

I’ll post a link here in a mo…
 
Auriel said:
Neither have I.

Several in this thread mentioned the various types of Baptist church they attend. I think that is what confuses many. They all have their differences even though they are Baptist.

Here is a joke that kind of explains in a strange way what I mean by that.

**Two men were on a cruise ship together and began to talk. Finally one of them asked,

“Do you believe in God?” He said, “Yes.”

I asked, “Are you a Christian or a Jew?” He said, “A Christian.” I said, “Me, too!

Protestant or Catholic?” He said, “Protestant.” I said, “Me, too!

What denomination?” He said, “Baptist.” I said, “Me, too!

Northern Baptist or Southern Baptist?” He said, “Northern Baptist.” I said, “Me, too!

Northern Conservative Baptist or Northern Moderate Baptist?”

He said, “Northern Conservative Baptist.” I said, “Me, too!

Are you of the Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region, or Northern Conservative Baptist Eastern Region?”

He said, “Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region.” I said, “Me, too!”

Are you of the Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879, or Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912?”

He said, “Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912.”

I said, “Die, you heretic!”

**
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