"Thou shalt not disapprove publicly of the homosexual lifestyle."

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This is the secular “commandment” which has been imposed upon our culture by gay activists and our political leaders, who want us to proclaim their creed.

Like the high school student who stood up for what he believed when his teacher harassed him, Christians who are opposed to the same-sex lifestyle are called names and are blatantly disrespected, and are accused of not respecting LGTB needs for “equality”. We allow the distortions of language to shut us up.

"A Pulpit for Bullies"
lifesitenews.com/news/a-pulpit-for-bullies

… On October 20, 2011, the Gay Straight Alliance at Howell High School planned to take part in a national “campaign aimed at raising awareness of the bullying of gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgendered youth.” The court acknowledges that the day is also called “Spirit Day,” which, the plaintiffs contended, is so-called to foster acceptance in the public schools of the homosexual lifestyle. The Gay Straight Alliance made up flyers to be posted all around the school, urging students to wear purple on that day as a sign of their solidarity with homosexual teenagers. The principal approved the flyer.

… McDowell says that he told Glowacki that it was all right if his religion said that homosexual behavior was wrong, but that Glowacki could not say that in class.

… There are two points I wish to make. The first is that the superintendent’s ironical insight did not go nearly far enough—the bullying was not limited to that incident in the classroom. The second is that the state is acting as a church, engaged in catechesis.

… What gives these schools the right to engage in that catechesis? The business of the public school is akin to the business of a group of tutors hired by a group of parents. It has become, instead, the business of a group of self-imagined forward-thinking missionaries introducing students to their new and enlightened world, against the supposed inertia and ignorance of parents, pastors, and the great majority of moral philosophers and theologians older than yesterday.
 
Let not your heart be troubled. We, by the cross we have agreed to bear, by the cup we chose to drink from, and by our willingness to enter into the same baptism Jesus Christ experienced should glory not agonize in the poor treatment and low esteem of those who are not part of the faithful.

The least will be the greatest , the last will be first, the poor will be rich, and those who do not love their lives will save their lives.

These paradoxes are all part of the good news of the gospel and should be fully embraced.

Peace and all good!
 
Never let anyone else pick your religion (and, by extension, your faith and belief) or your heros.

Like your answer Neofight.

Though, now I have to change my login name to “one or two just above Least”

😉
 
“A Pulpit for Bullies”
the state is acting as a church, engaged in catechesis.

… What gives these schools the right to engage in that catechesis? The business of the public school is akin to the business of a group of tutors hired by a group of parents. It has become, instead, the business of a group of self-imagined forward-thinking missionaries introducing students to their new and enlightened world, against the supposed inertia and ignorance of parents, pastors, and the great majority of moral philosophers and theologians older than yesterday.
Meh… are we really saying that schools – and the government itself – doesn’t engage in ‘catechesis’ on moral issues every day? C’mon, now… in each stand that the state takes – in its laws, and its enforcement of these laws (or lack thereof) – the state is engaging in the practice of endorsing certain behaviors (and opposing others) that have moral import. The fact that we disagree with this particular stand that the state is taking, shouldn’t lead us to believe that this is new behavior… 😉
 
Or maybe the commandment is and should be “thou shalt leave LGBT people be and they should let you be”.

Look, this country was founded politically on Age of Enlightenment / Humanist thinking so as to allow people to be themselves. This is to allow people the space to follow their beliefs. As a Catholic YOU benefit from a Constitution written in a time where this country was easily as hostile to Catholics as many LGBT people have experienced. The wisdom shown in the formation of this country has allowed you to become a fuller person through your Catholic faith. Why not allow the same space for them?

I assure you, as much as I support the right of LGBT people to fully realize their lives and place in society, I also support any Church’s desire not to perform a same sex marriage if they so choose. Isn’t that nice how this all works?
 
I hope that we can all realize that government education centers have become “government indoctrination centers”. Whatever the latest political agenda is is what is taught in these “government indoctrination centers”. The truth is irrevelant. Political agendas are what is pushed and presented as truth.
 
I hope that we can all realize that government education centers have become “government indoctrination centers”.
Again, to my point: they always have been! It’s just that, up until recently (let’s say, the past 50-60 years), educational systems in America (be they governmental or private) have generally ‘indoctrinated’ kids into a way of thinking that was more or less in line with Christian thought… 😉
 
Just a question for anyone who would like to give their insight into this issue.

What are we, Catholics, to make of the pope’s comments “who are we to judge?” In regard to homosexuals? Would engaging in any public display of opposition to same sex relationships be judging? I don’t know the answer which is why I’d like (name removed by moderator)ut from all sides of this issue.
 
I hope that we can all realize that government education centers have become “government indoctrination centers”. Whatever the latest political agenda is is what is taught in these “government indoctrination centers”. The truth is irrevelant. Political agendas are what is pushed and presented as truth.
Yes. Unfortunately, it is very difficult to keep kids out of them. We tried home schooling in my family, and it didn’t work for us. Then we tried private schooling until the economy crashed. After that, there was no alternative except the public schools. And now my children are caught in a trap.

Every day I have to counter something that happened or was taught at their schools. The only good thing about it is my children have developed a healthy skepticism about things they are taught in school.
 
Just a question for anyone who would like to give their insight into this issue.

What are we, Catholics, to make of the pope’s comments “who are we to judge?” In regard to homosexuals? Would engaging in any public display of opposition to same sex relationships be judging? I don’t know the answer which is why I’d like (name removed by moderator)ut from all sides of this issue.
My non-Catholic and pro-gay rights friends have asked me similar questions. My response is that the Holy Father was speaking candidly and expressing his own personal opinion. He was not speaking ex-Cathedra so his comments are not binding as far as Catholic doctrine is concerned. I also tell them that this should in no way should be construed to mean that the Church is going to “lighten up” on homosexuality. Further, the Holy Father added the caveat about gays “seeking Jesus” which would imply they are (or should be) denouncing homosexual sex.
 
Or maybe the commandment is and should be “thou shalt leave LGBT people be and they should let you be”.

Look, this country was founded politically on Age of Enlightenment / Humanist thinking so as to allow people to be themselves. This is to allow people the space to follow their beliefs. As a Catholic YOU benefit from a Constitution written in a time where this country was easily as hostile to Catholics as many LGBT people have experienced. The wisdom shown in the formation of this country has allowed you to become a fuller person through your Catholic faith. Why not allow the same space for them?
(A) Catholics require a bit more than “space” to flourish effectively.

(B) Are you seriously suggesting Enlightenment nonsense has been net-good for Catholics?
 
Just a question for anyone who would like to give their insight into this issue.

What are we, Catholics, to make of the pope’s comments “who are we to judge?” In regard to homosexuals? Would engaging in any public display of opposition to same sex relationships be judging? I don’t know the answer which is why I’d like (name removed by moderator)ut from all sides of this issue.
There’s a difference between having firm convictions and standing on them, and being confrontational. I don’t think the second way is good.
 
My non-Catholic and pro-gay rights friends have asked me similar questions. My response is that the Holy Father was speaking candidly and expressing his own personal opinion. He was not speaking ex-Cathedra so his comments are not binding as far as Catholic doctrine is concerned. I also tell them that this should in no way should be construed to mean that the Church is going to “lighten up” on homosexuality. Further, the Holy Father added the caveat about gays “seeking Jesus” which would imply they are (or should be) denouncing homosexual sex.
He also said that after firing some bank minister for the express purpose of him being a homosexual, that is the part people who bring up the “who am I to judge” quote usually leave out.

+Francis was talking on an individual basis, not at all softening up on homosexual behavior, which he CLEARLY believes to be inherently evil, just as the Church teaches. He described gay “”“marriage”"" as the work of the devil and a “destructive attack on God’s plan” (or something thereabouts, it is impossible to find the quote on Google because all that comes up is the “judge not” quote when you search “Pope Francis gays”).
 
I’m planning to make up a “HATER” t-shirt and wear it around! 🙂

It would be interesting to see the response: I doubt anyone would open their mouths and say anything. . . we can’t judge each other nowadays, you know! 🙂

Anyway, I quit the Boy Scouts because they put themselves on ice with this issue, sold out the duty to God business and other troublesome stuff.

Say, if you want to make a difference, send a letter to the White House expressing dismay over their nuttiness.
 
That’s the problem the LGBT crusaders won’t leave me and my children be.
Hmmm… Kind of doubt they are coming to your door, calling you at home, or recruiting your children to the lifestyle. Look we all have things we’d rather our children not learn or emulate as parents, but wading through that is what being a parent is about.

Believe me the world is not going to end if LGBT aren’t bullied and allowed to go on with their lives like anyone else. That’s all most LGBT people are asking for or promoting.
 
Just a question for anyone who would like to give their insight into this issue.

What are we, Catholics, to make of the pope’s comments “who are we to judge?” In regard to homosexuals? Would engaging in any public display of opposition to same sex relationships be judging? I don’t know the answer which is why I’d like (name removed by moderator)ut from all sides of this issue.
He was speaking, specifically, about chaste homosexuals in the priesthood.

There is a big difference between a priest who struggles with illicit sexual desires but who lives faithfully according to his state in life and… well, the average “GLBT” “rights” activist.
 
Hmmm… Kind of doubt they are coming to your door, calling you at home, or recruiting your children to the lifestyle. Look we all have things we’d rather our children not learn or emulate as parents, but wading through that is what being a parent is about.

Believe me the world is not going to end if LGBT aren’t bullied and allowed to go on with their lives like anyone else. That’s all most LGBT people are asking for or promoting.
That is incorrect. The moment “gay marriage” is legalized in your State, 5 year old Jimmy automatically gets a story book in his public school affirming homosexual relationships and it’s not a parental notification issue. The parents have the right to know what their boy is getting at school. So, who set this up?

abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1230620&page=1

They are going door to door.

marketplace.org/topics/economy/fight-same-sex-marriage-goes-door-door

Peace,
Ed
 
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