Thoughts on this article? It has to due with Adam

[Abu]

No private attempts to interpret the Sacred Scriptures can alter the fact that the Christ established only one Church under St Peter with His authority.

Christ’s Church authenticated and proclaimed the Sacred Scriptures. The fact that other sects lack His Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, the totality of seven sacraments, Sacred Tradition and the Magisterium, apart from eliminating seven books of the Sacred Scriptures, reveals the great need for overcoming the separation Luther and others occasioned by jettisoning Christ’s Church.

The Church is “the pillar and bulwark of the truth (1 Tim 3:16).” St. Paul says also, “through the Church the manifold wisdom of God might now be made known to the principalities and powers in the heavenly places (Eph 3:10).” The Church teaches even the angels! This is with the authority of Christ!

In Colossians 2: 4-23, St Paul calls on his flock to follow Christ “as you were taught” and warns against merely “human precepts and teachings.”

“We are of God. He who knows God hears us; he who is not of God does not hear us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.” (1Jn 4:6).

 

[Protector]

Abu;11415887] No private attempts to interpret the Sacred Scriptures can alter the fact that the Christ established only one Church under St Peter with His authority.

Abu;11415887: Christ’s Church authenticated and proclaimed the Sacred Scriptures.

The Old Testament forms a major part of the "Sacred Scriptures ", and that was practically all that Jesus and the apostles referred to. So then, when Paul told Timothy to,

"Study to show yourself approved unto God, a workman that needs not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." 2 Timothy 2:15 (KJV)

He was referring mainly to the Old Testament.

Abu;11415887: The fact that other sects lack His Holy Sacrifice of the Mass,

Stop Press!!!**

Abu. When I was in the throes of research in order to competently answer the points raised in your post I discovered purely by (happy) accident (ten minutes ago), another subject that I consider to be of far greater importance than wasting valuable time arguing about who gave us the Scriptures. However, we had jointly unintentionally (?) hijacked this thread so it is for the best if I go to my other research.

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[Bob123Q]

I have a new opinoin of the situtation love genisis and church teaching
discount all speculation as just speculation
Gensis does discuss true history!!!

 

[Bob123Q]

Quite frankly I do not think the church has defined too much about many of the pasages in genesis. except mabey gen 3:15 and a few others
Knowing that the history of genesis is not written in the same way that a modern american historian would document history the whole what type of genre is genesis conversation has to happen first.

In reply to the author’s who did Cain marry
Cain building of a city and settling down and marrying and having kids could have a symbolic meaning over historical truth
for example Cain was just told to wonder the earth Yet the next thing he does is build a city and get married kind of the opposite of what you would expect. But his solution is pretty cool too.

In truth Who knows if Adam or who Adam or where Adam. I’m just going to believe what ever the Church defines because that is truth instead of opinion when or if ever they do define proper meanings to passages in genesis

I have a new opinoin of the situtation love genisis and church teaching
discount all speculation as just speculation
Gensis does discuss true history!!!

 

[Abu]

Protector #22
The Old Testament forms a major part of the "Sacred Scriptures ", and that was practically all that Jesus and the apostles referred to. So then, when Paul told Timothy to,
Quote: “Study to show yourself approved unto God, a workman that needs not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” 2 Timothy 2:15 (KJV)
He was referring mainly to the Old Testament.

This demonstrates realistically the failure to listen to St Paul in the very same 2 Timothy:
“Preach the word. Be urgent in season, out of season; reprove, entreat, rebuke with all patience and teaching. For there will come a time when far from being content with sound teaching, people are avid for the latest novelty and collect themselves a whole series of teachers according to their own tastes.” (2 Tim 4:3).

The reality that the Gospels vividly illustrate the teaching of Jesus, and the fact that Protestants lack His Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, the totality of seven sacraments, Sacred Tradition and the Magisterium, apart from eliminating seven books of the Sacred Scriptures, reveals the great need for overcoming the separation Luther and others occasioned by jettisoning Christ’s Church.

Yes,Bob123Q. The consequences of Adam’s sin, and our state of sin, are the loss of: sanctifying grace, of integrity, of immortality and happiness (therefore suffering), and of enlightenment.

 

[Bob123Q]

Quite frankly I do not think the church has defined too much about many of the pasages in genesis. except mabey gen 3:15 and a few others
Knowing that the history of genesis is not written in the same way that a modern american historian would document history the whole what type of genre is genesis conversation has to happen first.

In reply to the author’s who did Cain marry
Cain building of a city and settling down and marrying and having kids could have a symbolic meaning over historical truth
for example Cain was just told to wonder the earth Yet the next thing he does is build a city and get married kind of the opposite of what you would expect. But his solution is pretty cool too.

In truth Who knows if Adam or who Adam or where Adam. I’m just going to believe what ever the Church defines because that is truth instead of opinion when or if ever they do define proper meanings to passages in genesis

I should not have suggeted a symbollic meaning
I go for anything the church has defined and teaches.
I go for anything the Church Teaches

If Gensis said Cain settled down who am I to suggest anything else
Adam was real to !

 

[Bob123Q]

In a similar vien we can not have come from just one mother (no adam )either as I understand it

qoute from Father William Most’s collection

We are still countless miles from having such proof. In fact, Science News (August 13, 1983, p. 101) reports that Allan Wilson of the University of California at Berkley now holds that “we all go back to one mother, living 350,000 years ago… Wilson found 110 variations in the mitochondrial DNA of 112 individuals in a worldwide survey.” (Mitochrondria are the power-producing structures of cells. They contain 35 genes that are passed directly from mother to child, hence Wilson did not speak of a father.)

From the viewpoint of Scripture, Pius XII said, in Humani Generis: “Christians cannot embrace that opinion … since it is by no means apparent how this view could be reconciled with things which the sources of revelations and the acta of the Magisterium of the Church teach about original sin, which comes from a sin really committed by one Adam, and which, being transmitted by generation, is in each one as his own.”

Yes and how can 350,000 years ago agree with Gensis’s account
What does the holy and Catholic church teach that is what I vote for and that only

 

[Ion]

I personally believe the Genesis is first of all literary true, and also has symbolic interpretation, so it was done in such way. It is not a scientific account concording with our science at the nowadays level of knowledge. It is hard to explain it with our level of science and people usually look mainly at the symbolic interpretation keeping from the literal interpretation what it is known for sure: Adam and Eve were the first humans, created perfect in a world without sin. But does not mean that in the future we will not be able to get the literal interpretation too. There is too much pride in science pretending that you are served by science with all the truth and nothing but the truth (there is the small print saying that theories are subject to change without notice )

There is the possibility that God made the creation while moving back and forth in our time. How would you describe it in a linear time, from our perspective?