Thread for married people dealing with aftermaths of premarital sex

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No, you’re not insane. Even when the premarital sex was with your future spouse, you keep wondering “Was my decision to marry really free, or was I psychologically forced into it because having had intercourse, it would be too painful to contemplate NOT marrying her?” Our marriage will never be as good as it COULD have been if we had married as virgins, but we can still with God’s help make it as good as it can be under the circumstances. No marriage is perfect other than the marriage between Christ and His Church.
 
Hey, folks. Quit beating yourself up. Everything you’ve done and experienced brought you to this point. And if the shallowness of earlier relationships that didn’t work made you appreciate a loving spouse you have today, then stop kicking yourselves. If your past is what made you grasp your faith more strongly now, then honor that and stop regretting it. It’s been forgiven. Here’s a great song. Go buy it. Play it for each other.

Bless The Broken Road Lyrics
Rascal Flatts

I set out on a narrow way, many years ago
Hoping I would find true love, along the broken road
But I got lost a time or two, wiped my brow and kept pushing through
I couldn’t see how every sign, pointed straight to you

Every long lost dream, led me to where you are
Others who broke my heart, they were like northern stars
Pointing me on my way, into your loving arms
This much I know is true
That God blessed the broken road
That led me straight to you
Yes He did

I think about the years I spent, just passin’ through
I’d like to have the time I lost, and give it back to you
But you just smile and take my hand, you’ve been there you understand
It’s all part of a grander plan, that is comin’ true

Every long lost dream, led me to where you are
Others who broke my heart, they were like northern stars
Pointing me on my way, into your loving arms
This much I know is true
That God blessed the broken road
That led me straight to you

Yeah

Now I’m just rollin’ home into my lovers arms
This much I know is true
That God blessed the broken road
That led me straight to you

That God blessed the broken road
That led me straight to you
 
I don’t understand all this talk of “being robbed” married love is very different from what we experience with people in our past. I don’t feel robbed nor do have I ever felt jealousy about my spouses past. That would be a sign of an insecure marriage at least in my mind. 🤷
The robbed part, I guess it is hard to explain to some. It is not about my husband’s past or really even mine. Think of it as leaving the house and accidentally leaving a door unlocked, or even wide open. Someone comes in and takes all you value. You didn’t know at the time that you had done it and it all seemed to sneak up on you.

Then you start to examine your life and find out that it wasn’t really an accident that you left the door open. You discover that you really weren’t being vigilant with your life. You discover that you really were leaving the door open all the time and just hadn’t realized the consequences until now. You find that you had become lax in all you thought was important. Everything around you said you were “safe” so you let your guard down. You find that the people who were telling you that it was fine to be lax were the same people leaving their own doors open. You find that the people (like your parents in my case) telling you that you needed to be vigilant and check the doors every night were being written off as paranoid or old-fashioned.

For me, the word ‘robbed’ fits the bill precisely. While I wasn’t an innocent victim by leaving the door wide open, I was still robbed. Evil came in through the door I left open, but he wasn’t intentionally invited in.

If anyone has ever seen the 80s movie, “Jumpin’ Jack Flash” there is a line in it that I found especially appropriate when reflecting on my life. Whoopi’s character goes down to the pier in the middle of the night by herself to meet a man who says he can help her. She is there trying to get help for someone else but realizes what a bad situation she has put herself into and is talking to herself while pacing the dock. She says, “Why don’t I just pin a ten dollar bill to my [rear] and yell, ‘victim here’!?”

I spent a long time pinning $10 to my rear end. Married love helps to heal it, but the memory hasn’t really gone away.
 
When we regret past sin, despite repentance and forgiveness and our sure knowledge of God’s mercy, we can always remember that even after the Resurrection, Christ carried the wounds of the cross in his hands and feet and sides. When I am tempted to dwell on regret for past sins I remind myself that Jesus carried his wounds and mine with him when he ascended into Heaven…
mercygate, I’m going to save this post!
The robbed part, I guess it is hard to explain to some. It is not about my husband’s past or really even mine. Think of it as leaving the house and accidentally leaving a door unlocked, or even wide open. Someone comes in and takes all you value. You didn’t know at the time that you had done it and it all seemed to sneak up on you.

Then you start to examine your life and find out that it wasn’t really an accident that you left the door open. You discover that you really weren’t being vigilant with your life. You discover that you really were leaving the door open all the time and just hadn’t realized the consequences until now. You find that you had become lax in all you thought was important. Everything around you said you were “safe” so you let your guard down. You find that the people who were telling you that it was fine to be lax were the same people leaving their own doors open. You find that the people (like your parents in my case) telling you that you needed to be vigilant and check the doors every night were being written off as paranoid or old-fashioned.

For me, the word ‘robbed’ fits the bill precisely. While I wasn’t an innocent victim by leaving the door wide open, I was still robbed. Evil came in through the door I left open, but he wasn’t intentionally invited in.
LittleDeb, that’s a great analogy. I feel similarly about some of my past mistakes in that I just had no idea how harmful they were until much later.
 
I think part of the wisdom in texts such as Hosea 6:1:** *“Come, let us return to the LORD; for he has torn, that he may heal us; **he has stricken, and he will bind us up.” ***

is not that the Lord strikes us and causes gratuitous pain but from the platform of our sin, coming to our senses shows us the damage that has been done to ourselves and to others and THAT is the key element of pain. The pain of damage caused by sin is simply the natural consequence. The fact that we see and experience that pain as a harm against our Lord, our selves, and others is a very great grace.

For those who come to the Lord in his truth I recall Joel 2:25 & 32:

I will restore to you the years
which the swarming locust has eaten,

***the hopper, the destroyer, and the cutter . . . ***
And it shall come to pass that all who call upon the name of the LORD shall be delivered.

A nun I knew many years ago used to day: It is also penance to be joyful.
 
I can’t be the only one who, although happily married now, still feels bad about this. It hurts me that I didn’t wait for my wife, and it hurts me that my wife didn’t wait for me.

Tell me that I’m not insane (at least, not for this reason). Doesn’t anybody else feel that premarital sex, especially with someone other than your present spouse, has had a negative effect on you?
I think you have to return to confession and confess that you have not accepted God’s forgiveness and then move on with your life. What’s done is done and there is no good that comes from selfishly dwelling on one’s past sins. Did Peter not feel terrible for denying Christ three times? I’m sure he did, but he went on to do great things for the Lord.

To quote C.S. Lewis: “According to Christian teachers, the essential vice, the upmost evil is Pride. Unchastity, anger, greed, drunkenness, and all that are mere fleabites in comparison: it is through Pride that the devil became the devil: Pride leads to every other vice: it is the complete anti-God state of mind”.

Let go of the past and start living your life with your spouse today. Forgive her and forgive yourself.
 
I think another way to look at this is to remember that you are not helping your current or future situation by harboring ill feelings towards your past. It’s another way of being robbed, only you are robbing yourself of some really happy times with your spouse. You have been to confession, and even though it may seem difficult, you really need to move forward. You have been forgiven. End of story.

Now I don’t mean to sound harsh, but sometimes we just have to pull up our boot straps and get over things. Think of how much more you can give to your spouse by really letting this go. Through confession, Jesus says, “I love you, and I forgive you, now move forward and be happy.”

Suggestion; go to see your priest and share this with him. Let him assure you that your past is exactly that, your past.

FWIW, I’m certainly no saint when it comes to my past either. But I refuse to regret my past, and I refuse to get all worked up over something I have no control over. I have made many mistakes in my life, but I choose to learn from them. I love my wife so much, that I will not allow guilt to interfere with what we have. It’s just not fair to her.

Good Bless.
 
You are not insane. 🙂 As my kids get older, I struggle with how to make them understand (without over revealing) how bad it is to “give away” what should have been a wedding night gift; how it changes EVERYTHING, and how it is something that cannot be healed.

I think that premarital sex with my present spouse had as much of a negative effect, if not worse, than any other. :o
really…why?
 
Yeah, the thread title is a bit much, but I didn’t know how else to say it. Plenty of other threads exist for celibate singles, or for those struggling to wait for marriage, but let’s face it, not all of us did. I can’t be the only one who, although happily married now, still feels bad about this. It hurts me that I didn’t wait for my wife, and it hurts me that my wife didn’t wait for me.

I find two common reactions when I talk about still being bothered by premarital sex. The first reaction is, “Are you insane? This is the 21st Century.” That isn’t very helpful for those of us who think sex is more than just recreation, but an intimate bond meant to be shared only by husband and wife. The second reaction is the opposite extreme, basically, “That’s what you get for breaking God’s rules.” Okay, fair enough, but that doesn’t help either. I don’t own a time machine. I can’t go back. I’m here now, married, never able to have my wife and my first time be with each other on our wedding night like God intended, never able to share this wonderful gift with her exclusively, and it hurts.

Tell me that I’m not insane (at least, not for this reason). Doesn’t anybody else feel that premarital sex, especially with someone other than your present spouse, has had a negative effect on you?
I didn’t have premarital sex before marriage…but my husband did. It’s funny, but most men have a different opinion of it than women. He looked at it as no big deal…(doesn’t want to discuss it, and doesn’t want to bring it up) but he doesn’t have issues with it, like I think I might have, had it been me. Interesting, no?
 
Unfortunately we men are very good at rationalising it away as “no big deal”, but deep down we know it is a very big deal.
 
More often than not, the answer to the lingering effects of sin (despite Confession & absolution) in my life is to take actual steps to make reparations in that area. My “prodigal years” away from the Church and the knowledge of the Truth, unfortunately, were sad, sin-filled ones.

For my role in promoting the culture of death, I have taken steps to promote the culture of life & the pro-life movement.

For my role in unchaste relationships, I’ve taken steps (even small ones, like slapping a bumpersticker on my car) to promote chastity, promote NFP w/in marriage, and support those professionals involved with teaching. One day I may be able to take a more active role in teaching.

I think LittleDeb has mentioned this–one way of productively moving on to the next step in one’s marriage might be to become more active ***together ***in promoting chastity to teens/college students/engaged couples; or NFP to engaged or married couples.

Despite having confessed my sins, very often, with any new knowledge I come across for the first time, I feel “convicted” again. (E.g., learning more about fetal development or the breast cancer/abortion link) That’s the effects of sin, folks.

Someone I love dearly once shared with me on this topic:
“It is no coincidence that of all the women mentioned in Jesus’ life, there were two closest to him. One was a Virgin, and one was a whore.”
 
Sorry, didn’t have time to read all the posts, but what I did read seemed very insightful, now for my 2 cents.

My DH was not a virgin when we got married but I was. He had fallen away from the church and had returned a few years before we got married and when he did return, stayed chaste till our marriage. Honestly, the fact that he didn’t wait caused me much pain early on in our relationship, but he did so many little things to help me and make me feel like I was the only girl for him and the only woman he wanted love and be with forever.

The pain that it had caused seemed to melt away though after our wedding just b/c I was so wrapped up with US that there was no room left to think about the past, which is done and gone and already confessed about and forgiven. Yes, our first time wasn’t HIS first time, but it was still OUR first time together and the act that consummated our vows.

Try not to think about what should’ve been or what you were cheated out of getting b/c of sin, this is destructive thought. Try to think about how you know better now and have confessed and so you have triumphed over that sin…try to think about this wonderful woman you had to marry and that you have each other…

I thank God that my husband was brought back to the church. Honestly, he said part of the reason he came back was b/c the premarital sex made his life feel so shallow that he knew that there had to be something bigger and better out there. If he had never fallen to that sin, maybe I wouldn’t have the man I had today?? Someone told me once, better a non-virgin devout Catholic than a virgin pagan…how true, how true…
 
I feel divided on this, b/c my premarital “adventures” was what brought me to the faith. My parents did it and I was never taught that it was wrong, so why did it make me feel so awful… wait… those silly Christians think it’s a sin… maybe they’ve got something there… maybe they could be right about other things as well? 😛 So, how can I REALLY feel bad about my felix culpa? I did feel horrible at the time of the “big crisis”, but I truly feel healed now.

I think what also helped a lot was that, after having had premarital sex, my husband and I waited for almost 4 years between my discovery of my faith and our wedding. It helped our relationship immensely.

Also, this sin helps me feel bad about myself and it’s a constant reminder of how vile I am and this is always a good thing. 😃
 
Sorry, didn’t have time to read all the posts, but what I did read seemed very insightful, now for my 2 cents.

My DH was not a virgin when we got married but I was. He had fallen away from the church and had returned a few years before we got married and when he did return, stayed chaste till our marriage. Honestly, the fact that he didn’t wait caused me much pain early on in our relationship, but he did so many little things to help me and make me feel like I was the only girl for him and the only woman he wanted love and be with forever.

The pain that it had caused seemed to melt away though after our wedding just b/c I was so wrapped up with US that there was no room left to think about the past, which is done and gone and already confessed about and forgiven. Yes, our first time wasn’t HIS first time, but it was still OUR first time together and the act that consummated our vows.

Try not to think about what should’ve been or what you were cheated out of getting b/c of sin, this is destructive thought. Try to think about how you know better now and have confessed and so you have triumphed over that sin…try to think about this wonderful woman you had to marry and that you have each other…

I thank God that my husband was brought back to the church. Honestly, he said part of the reason he came back was b/c the premarital sex made his life feel so shallow that he knew that there had to be something bigger and better out there. If he had never fallen to that sin, maybe I wouldn’t have the man I had today?? Someone told me once, better a non-virgin devout Catholic than a virgin pagan…how true, how true…
Perfectly written gam3! ;)🙂 this is a sign of a very solid marriage. The love you share is more important than being upset over past sins. I see you are from Ohio, I have relatives there. 😃
 
Perfectly written gam3! ;)🙂 this is a sign of a very solid marriage. The love you share is more important than being upset over past sins. I see you are from Ohio, I have relatives there. 😃
Thank you…when I first found out that he wasn’t a virgin anymore while we were dating, I carried a large cross for I had my hopes set on marrying someone who had waited for me as I did for him, but that was not meant to be and I’m glad that my experience can maybe give insight to others dealing with something similar.

I’m originally from Youngstown, Ohio, and just recently moved to Dayton, Ohio, as my DH got a new job down here (DH is originally from Dayton btw). What part of ohio are your relatives from??
 
One of the many great things about God is he uses even our truly awful behavior as a means to help us after we come to him.
 
Unfortunately we men are very good at rationalising it away as “no big deal”, but deep down we know it is a very big deal.
Probably true. The irony is that I didn’t really ‘mind’ that he wasn’t a virgin. I think he was happy to know I was one, but my husband is 10 yrs older than me…but it’s still an interesting thing.
 
Ganera. The other day I had a customer come into my shop ( a Catholic store) and I ordered a Chasity ring for her daughter, well ever since her “friends” found out about it her life has become a living hell. She has had to find other friends, She did not get invited to prom, there was a hate campain (can’t spell tonight) on the internet about her. I told her mother that I wish I had been able to talk to her, I would have told her that the first man I slept with was not my husband and after 30 years of marriage to my wonderful husband, I still regret not being a virgin on our wedding night and I will regret this until I draw my last breath. So I understand. :gopray2:
 
what I can share is the collective experience of my generation, the first fruits of the sexual revolution and radical feminism, first to have easy cheap ABC, the Pill, to enter college with the expectation (if not the goal) of losing one’s virginity. For many of us Catholics to hear and react against Humanae Vitae was a more defining event than even V2 and the new Mass. When I was in high school living together openly before marriage simply was not done, except by those deliberately flouting convention. By the time I married it was fast becoming the cultural expectation it is today.

When I went to my first feminist consciousness raising session it was about sisterhood, supporting other women, equal pay for equal work, and recognising the dignity and economic contribution of housework. When I went to my last and gave up feminism forever it was about proving your credentials by having an abortion, either hating men and becoming lesbian, or making yourself available sexually to any man who came down the pike (esp. one of another race) to prove your liberations.

When I was in HS the only people who had sex before marriage were those who “hadda” get married. By the time I married if you had not anticipated your wedding night several months previously to “prove compatibility” even your doctor assumed there was something seriously wrong with you. When I was a young married Masters and Johnson and their ilk were promoting open marriage, swinging, masturbation, viewing porn together and other disgusting habits as secrets to marital success.

What are the fruits? More and more research is coming out, which bears out my personal experience of couples in my generation (coming up on 40 yrs of marriage) about the unhappiness and fragility of unions that began with premarital sex. IMO the early sexual intimacy forestalled growth of true intimacy which is supposed to be the hallmark of the engagement period. These couples never talked, just had sex, and learned to measure the health of their relationship solely on the basis of personal satisfaction with their sex life.

Those marriages who have not broken up earlier because of infidelity promoted by the self-satisfaction priority of this mindset, are breaking up now because once children are gone, financial goals have been met, and sex no longer has the urgency or frequency it did when they were younger, and there is simply no other basis for the relationship. There is simply an epidemic, even among “good Catholics” of long term marriages dissolving because these couples never learned to communicate and share on an intimate level of mind, heart, intellect and spirit because they never learned to go beyond the physical, and because the physical union was driven by self-satisfaction and self-fulfillment and “meeting MY needs.” Sad and tragic.

solution I suppose would be emergency therapy on establishing true communication and intimacy, but don’t know where one would go to find it, other than Marriage Encounter or Retrouville in a Catholic mindset. Every retreat I go to with other older married women seems to revolve around issues such as those raised by OP. There is a sea of hurt out there, but for spiritual health we have to learn to confess, express contrition, accept absolution, do penance and move on. We have to grieve and heal by the same slow process as is required by other forms of grieving and healing. This includes, for many women in my generation, grieving for unborn children lost through aggressive contraception.
Thank you, puzzleannie, for an informative and thoughtful post. I enjoy reading what you write on Caf. God bless!
 
I’m currently in the same boat as Paradoxy: My boyfriend and I didn’t wait, and we were sexually active for 3.5 of our 4.5 year long relationship to date (The first half year we “weren’t ready” and about six months ago I had a conversion experience and asked his support in abstaining until we get married when I graduate from college in a couple years). He has been fairly supportive so far, and I think that’s more than could be expected from most men in their 20s these days.

I do regret our decision, and I feel sad when I think about the possibility of our own teenagers being able to use the “Well YOU didn’t wait!” line on us (if we ever felt the need to honestly answer a question that revealed that fact to them). But I take solace in the idea that I could say “Oh yeah? Well it’s much harder to have that be a part of your life for years and then STOP for years than it is to just wait in the first place, so WAIT!” Haha…

But, in response to the original poster’s question, I think it’s so important to remember that God forgives us, and we have to really try to forgive ourselves. I’m still struggling to do so, but it’s such an important thing to do…You learned from your mistake, and you confessed it and everything, so just try to move forward, as awfully cliche as that sounds. 🙂
 
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