***]I agree that we should be doing all of those things. But the light we bring should not be a flaming sword. Remember that Lucifer means “light-bringer”…
Points taken for a well-thought of response on the subject.
Here is another matter that maybe you want to address too. Christians living in non-Muslims majority countries may not understand the problems experienced by Christians living in Islamic or Muslims majority countries like those found in South East Asia, Pakistan, Iran, Arab Middle East and some African countries like Sudan.
This is a matter for debate, but to my mind there’s no doubt that some forms of persecutions and discriminations are meted out against the Christians by their Muslims counterparts there. This putting it mildly. In some cases, cruelty exacted on the Christians are downright infringing upon human rights and some even fatal.
Persecutions (direct and subtle) include the restriction on the building of churches and imposition of Islamic law on religious conversion, blasphemy and apostasy. I’m not sure whether the jizya (tax imposed on Christians by reason simply because they are not Muslims) does apply today, but if it is, the effect on the Christians can be devastating in term of being marginalized and humiliation.
Remember sometimes back, a Catholic Bishop in Pakistan committed suicide (not that he didn’t know suicide is wrong) in desperate attempt to protest against the country blasphemy law that convicted a Christian with the death penalty.
In some cases, direct hostilities against those Christians include desecration of their cemeteries (as in Indonesia), the burning of churches and even killing. Some of the killings are done on innocent villagers simply because they are Christians. The beheading of innocent Christian schoolgirls made headlines lately.
I’m not trying to fish hate here but to make the point that there are Christians participants in this forum who come from the countries mentioned. They may experience these persecutions first hand or may see them done to their people or even close relatives. What do we expect then, their perception on Islam as a religion, as many of these persecutions are made in the name of Islam and the Quran?
Being the minority, they cannot defend themselves and thus have to endure the suffering imposed upon them. They can’t argue out their cases otherwise blasphemous laws are applied to them.
In this forum, suddenly they can argue out their differences with Muslims. What do actually we expect the things they would argue out? Obviously, it’s the negativity of the religion of Islam, rightly or wrongly.
If their Muslim detractors in their respective countries based their action on the Quran, then the verses in the Quran, no matter how incriminating, are legitimate topics for discussion here (refer 1st post by the originator of this thread).
Christians need to talk out to the Muslims to exorcise out the evil of Islam in their (Christians) mind so that they can see our Muslim brethrens are just people like you and me, and not some monsters who are bent on burning our churches and smiting the necks of our women. And that it’s the fringes that create the cause of their misery. Hopefully it is the fringes.
We need to know and we need to learn about the finer aspect of Islam and its practices. We can’t blame Christians who feel that the utopian Islam is far from the reality, if they don’t see it being practiced by their own Muslims countrymen.
God bless.
Reuben.
P/S This post is written in the context of this thread. I would understand that Christians are also persecuted and restricted in their growth in non-Muslim countries, like China. Likewise, there would be Muslims who experienced unjust treatment by Christians in Christian majority countries.