Three Carmelite Monasteries shutting down

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I advised one grandmother, who asked our Autism Ministry to pray for her granddaughter, to open http://savior.org/ near the child and see what happens. She did so, and the girl became very still. The adoration is from the Pink Sisters in Philadelphia.

My parish has online adoration once a week on Thursday, which is livestreamed for about 2.5 hours.

My new congregation is utilizing the internet, and it’s going quite well. We can’t wait for covid-19 to go away so we can get together.
 
Do you think the new Vatican regulations on religious communities will have any impact on your new community?
 
It’s definitely not the same, at least for me, same with virtual Mass, but it’s definitely better than nothing and if nothing else it provides that visual focal point for prayer. And God definitely gives graces to those who seek him by those means if Adoration and Mass are cancelled. Yeah, just like spiritual communion as someone else said.
 
The point was that the religious order I was referring to, perpetual adoration was their mission statement. Also, this took place just when the WWW was starting. It was relatively new.
 
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Thanks for your explanations, especially about focus. I’m still not sure this will work for me, but I have a better appreciation now.
 
Please God in the future these unnecessary rules from Cor Orans will be rethought. We need incentives for religious vocations, not the opposite.
I hve my doubts that there are “unnecessary rules”. I also doubt that the rules would stop anyone from pursuing the possibility of a vocation to such orders; it is highly likely the rules specific to the issue at hand are going to be even brought up for a period of time, or focused on.

The reality is that there has been a gradual decrease in vocations across the board in both Europe and North America as a total (some orders seem to be growing, but overall apper to be an anomaly). Vocations elsewhere appear to be stronger.

And that is due to a multiplicity of issues; trying to isolate one or a few is to ignore that society in general has changed and not for the better.

My contacts for people who have vocations to the religious life include two communities of sisters (not nuns) and two communities of monks - Benedictines and Trappists.

When I first came in contact with the Trappists they had something like 50 members; they are now down to about 14 "standing, and a few more how are in infirmary. And the Trappist monastery in Utah shut down a few years ago; I only visited it once and at the time they were trying to figure out where they would go, as other monasteries did not have to automatically take them.

And consistently it appears that many orders are not taking in young (as in, 18 year olds) people who feel they have a vocation; part of that may be the results of experience, and part of that appears to be that those who have a vocation appear to discern it at an older age.

And before too many bemoan that fact, consider this: How is someone at the age of 18, or even 22 going to fit in, let alone relate to a group whos average age may be 70 years old?
 
Hard to say. We each have our little ministries, while spending time in contemplation. We haven’t lived the life long enough to work out the bugs. Two of our three being promoted did so today, but the third was ill. I’m still awaiting her decision as to when she will have her ceremony.

I’ve considered Cor Orans in the length of time for the formation stages. The Vincentians already had five years to simple vows. We added an Aspirancy, and made the Pre-Postulant and Postulant levels one year each. That makes seven-plus years until vows. Cor Orans mandates nine. This is because there were exclaustrations after final profession with shorter formation periods.

Documents from the Vatican are like Microsoft updates – they’re done because of complaints or needs. One Summit Dominican said they welcomed the document. Others are really suffering. Many congregations of cloistered nuns were to be comprised of independent monasteries. Then federations were encouraged. Now, in an attempt to save them, Francis pulled the Passionist Nuns together, and they’re able to have a president, and exchange personnel. But, they’re suffering. The original Passionist nuns’ monastery in Italy is their motherhouse. The president’s office is, IIRC, the foundress’ cell.
 
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