Three Positive Signs for Obama's Re-Election Chances

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Party of death. . . . . Oh come on. . . .
Its a simple jump. Pope John Paul II defined the “culture of death”, and most of the points that he defined are part of the Democrat Party platform.
 
Party of death. . . . . Oh come on. . . .
OK, Democratic Party Platform VOWS to keep abortion legal. Over 1 million babies are killed via abortion per year in the USA. Seekerz wants to know how many babies dying in the womb will it take for conservatives to see she is right about universal health insurance for the poor.

I don’t know of anybody dying of malnourishment in this country. There is no excuse for dying of malnourishment in this country, with food stamps and food banks.

I do know of many women who have died and been hurt by so-called “safe” abortions in Philadelphia and now in Maryland. This is the tip of the ice-berg. Greed dominates the abortion industry.
 
OK, Democratic Party Platform VOWS to keep abortion legal. Over 1 million babies are killed via abortion per year in the USA. Seekerz wants to know how many babies dying in the womb will it take for conservatives to see she is right about universal health insurance for the poor.

I don’t know of anybody dying of malnourishment in this country. There is no excuse for dying of malnourishment in this country, with food stamps and food banks.

I do know of many women who have died and been hurt by so-called “safe” abortions in Philadelphia and now in Maryland. This is the tip of the ice-berg. Greed dominates the abortion industry.
Moloch and Mammon are allies.
 
Publisher wrote: " …no religious institution WILL dictate how I vote as an American citizen…"

Nimzovik Responds:

Hmmmmm… I am wondering if I am making myself clear… Let me say this - It is my assertion that the Catholic Church is indeed an… extension - for lack of a better word - of the will of the Holy Spirit. When I am voluntarily in the will of God I am also in lock step with the teachings of the Catholic Church. Ergo the word ‘Dictates’ seems out of place here. The Catholic Church, Proper, would not issue a statement of Dogma in conflict with the Scriptures. Nor would it demand that I violate the Will of the Trinity.
Many people misunderstand the relationship between the Catholic layman and the Church. You explained this very well. 👍

I am a Catholic, which means I adhere with the Teachings of the Catholic Church.

The perfect action is in trying to please God, not to avoid Hell. It is human to fear Hell, which is a very real place, as taught by the Church. As humans under Grace, we desire to please and sanctify our Heavenly Father. 👍

And this is why “Are you Saved?” questions bother me so much. :o
 
I’m willing to claim Ron Paul will run as an independent and split the Republican ticket, thereby helping Obama win even easier.

Personally I don’t care who better represents my values as the Presidential election doesn’t matter, literally.

The electoral college picks the President, not us. We can all stay home (or all vote) and neither will matter. Its state and local elections (where turnout is lightest) that a vote really matters. Yet the one race where your vote actually doesn’t count has the relative highest turnout.

Puzzling.
 
Party of death. . . . . Oh come on. . . .
The Party of Death

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Party of Death

Author(s) Ramesh Ponnuru
Country United States
Language English
Subject(s) Right to life, Abortion, Euthanasia, and the Democratic Party.
Publisher Regnery Publishing
Publication date April 24, 2006
Media type Hardcover
Pages 320

ISBN 1596980044
OCLC Number 65063705

Dewey Decimal 363.46 22
LC Classification HQ767.5.U5 P66 2006

The Party of Death: The Democrats, the Media, the Courts, and the Disregard for Human Life is a book written by Ramesh Ponnuru. The hardcover edition, published by Regnery Publishing, was released on April 24, 2006 and consists of 320 pages.[1] Controversially titled, the work is an exposition on such right to life issues as abortion and euthanasia, concentrating on the United States Democratic Party’s shift from pro-life to pro-choice.

Jonah Goldberg, NRO Editor at Large, claims that “Ponnuru scrupulously sticks to nonreligious arguments, accessible to everyone. But that hasn’t stopped critics from charging that his motives are unacceptably ‘religious,’ while others have complained Ponnuru is too coldly rational. Again it seems Ponnuru’s real sin isn’t how he says things, but that he says them at all.”[2]

John Derbyshire writes: “RTL is made as presentable as possible in Party of Death, with writing that is engaging and lucid… RTL-ers are welcoming Party of Death very joyfully, though, and they are right to do so, as it is an exceptionally fine piece of polemical writing in support of their… cause… Party of Death is obviously inspired by religious belief. The philosophical passages strictly follow the Golden Rule of religious apologetics, which is: The conclusion is known in advance, and the task of the intellectual is to erect supporting arguments.”[3]

Possibly in response to these accusations of having an overtly religious viewpoint in approaching the issue, Ponnuru states: “I have made a show of reasoning, but my conclusions have all rather conveniently lined up with the teachings of my church… For the record, my views on abortion have not changed since I was an agnostic… It is true that I am a Catholic. It is also true that I believe that my church’s teaching on abortion is reasonable, sound, and correct. It is because I came to believe that Catholicism is true, after all, that I became a Catholic. If I didn’t believe Catholic teachings were true, I wouldn’t be a Catholic. So what?”[4]

The Daily Show host Jon Stewart interviewed Ponnuru on May 17, 2006 as part of promotional tour for his book. The Colbert Report host Stephen Colbert interviewed Ponnuru on August 14, 2006.

Ponnuru, R. 2006. The Party of Death: The Democrats, the Media, the Courts, and the Disregard for Human Life, Regnery Publishing. ISBN 1-59698-004-4
 
I’m willing to claim Ron Paul will run as an independent and split the Republican ticket, thereby helping Obama win even easier.
I disagree with you here. Ron Paul’s biggest supporters are the under 30 crowd, including those who voted for Obama in 2008. Obama will lose if Ron Paul runs 3rd party.
 
Feel free to accuse me of whatever you will. You want my proportionate reason for the 2012 election, in a nutshell?

How about I can’t in good conscience vote for a party which claims to be against abortion and yet engages in demonizing and attacking the socioeconomic prospects of the very groups (black, poor) among which its supporters detect the highest rates of abortion? Not when socioeconomic reasons rank among the top reasons women seek an abortion (guttmacher.org/pubs/journals/3711005.pdf).

Neither party can/will end (or even substantially decrease) abortion, but I choose the one that is not hypocritical about the matter. When I find the one which respects and upholds the dignity of all human life - with particular priority to the unborn - not only in words and symbolic votes, but also in their policies and ideology, I will be happy to switch my support.
Democrats have had control of the inner cities for the last 60 years, what have they done for Black people. Very little. ‘Urban Renewal,’ ‘The Great Society’ programs?

The unemployment rate in the Black community is over 16%. What policies have Republicans introduced to help Black people? House Republicans have passed 10 job creating bills which have been stopped in the majority Democrat senate. What are Republican ways to ‘fix’’ the high number of blacks dropping out of high school, the number of blacks in prison? Promoting marriage, family and individual responsibility. Most Democrats oppose school choice and the charter schools, which Republicans support, which has helped Black children tremendously, get a quality education.

It was the Republicans who proposed 600 pro life bills last year, with very little support from Democrats. Consider the abortion rate in the Black community.

Even though George Bush wasn’t completely pro life, he believed in restricted abortion, the abortion rate declined 8.1% in all 50 states during his presidency. George Bush passed many pro life laws.
 
Someone has and someone will again. . . . .
Party politics comes first for so called ‘pro life’’ Obama voters, not the human beings who are being killed. A truly pro life persons’ allegiances go beyond party politics.
 
OK, Democratic Party Platform VOWS to keep abortion legal. Over 1 million babies are killed via abortion per year in the USA. Seekerz wants to know how many babies dying in the womb will it take for conservatives to see she is right about universal health insurance for the poor.

I don’t know of anybody dying of malnourishment in this country. There is no excuse for dying of malnourishment in this country, with food stamps and food banks.

I do know of many women who have died and been hurt by so-called “safe” abortions in Philadelphia and now in Maryland. This is the tip of the ice-berg. Greed dominates the abortion industry.
I’m just saying you don’t have to come after me and others here like gang-busters.

I’m a faithful, practicing Catholic. I’m a good guy, in general, who cares about people. You don’t have to approach me like that.

Read my signature- folks around here REALLY need to take on just a little subtltety. I have read your posts. Your not a bully but this is political bullying and it, sure as heck, isn’t going to win any allies.

It’s just a circle-jerk around here. I know that’s a bad term- I tried to think of a more apt one but couldn’t. I’m not emphasizing the bad part of it, just the meaning.
 
This issue of abortion has become so politicized, especially so by some members of the organized Pro-Life movement.

I don’t get involved with these folks because of it. I really don’t care to hear the kind of stuff blasted around here while I try to engage in charitable efforts. The organized Pro Life movement doesn’t really have a place for people like me, and I’ll warrent that many in the movement don’t want to make a place for left-leaning folks.

I don’t generally associate with folks wearing tee-shirts proclaiming “Pro-Life, Pro Guns, Pro-Country”, or with other attire mocking the President and praising such figures as Sarah Palin.
I am heavily involved in the pro-life movement. I have NEVER EVER seen anyone wear that sort of thing, nor attempt to politicize. We are encouraged to keep silent and pray. Our signs have prayers on the back of them. We are discouraged from responding to people who honk at us as support and well as those who curse us. Many vile things are shouted at us from passing cars.

When we pray the Rosary around the local PP on abortion day, the volunteers escort those seeking abortions “safely” into the building (lest they change their minds, because many have). They turn their car radios on full volume (which is illegal in our city) to drown us out.

The attempts to politicize come from the left who care more about the death penalty than the 1,000,000+ babies that die every year. They shout, “You’re not really pro-life because you don’t oppose the death penalty.” Why would they assume that? I am against the death penalty, but the left just assumes…

The left politicizes pro-life by saying we only care about the unborn, but not about the baby after it’s born. Again, false assumptions. Just because I don’t agree with federal funding for health care and “charity” does not mean I don’t help the needy. My sister volunteers at a crisis-nursery. I volunteer at a homeless mother’s safe haven.

Come to think of it, our pro-life committee is very involved in baby showers, adopt a family, and volunteering at the homeless shelter.

I have yet to so anyone from our anti-death penalty social justice committee at any of the places we volunteer. Often they’re busy in Jefferson City rallying for union support and against the death penalty.
 
Since when is 33% 2 -1?

More like 1 in 3 to me…ya know, a third…
It’s “new math”🙂
For the mathematically challenged, the 2-1 refers to the 33% to 16% difference in polling data (note that 33% is more than 2x of 16%, thus the “2-1”).

This has been a public service announcement courtesy of your CAF math wiz who knows how to calculate these things…

Oh, and I copied the link from the original post, since it got buried in the merger…it is from post #327.
 
I will freely admit that I only skimmed your post, but this made me stop. Would you mind clarifying what you mean by ‘health care issue’? I will restrain myself from responding without a clear understanding of what you consider health care issues.
Health care=Medical care

There are no medical care issues now or before HHS started writing all their stupid rules for the glorious introduction of Obamacare. I know as a fact because my kid is in PICU now, The Pediatric Intensive Care Unit it treating indigent kids and rich people kids. The parents up here all have the same haggard exhausted fearful look on their face. Yet, no accountant is up there asking how the next IV bag is going to be paid for. The issues Pelosi, Reed, and Obama were supposed to be addressing were cost and insurance affordability none of which they really addressed. If they did, there wouldn’t be thousands of waivers. And you want to know how we know it is a lousy piece of s_ _ _ legislation? No politician is subject to it. All the union big wigs got waivers. Enjoy the bureaucratic controls that are coming. That is what this POS bill is about. Bureaucratic control and government power.
 
I disagree with you here. Ron Paul’s biggest supporters are the under 30 crowd, including those who voted for Obama in 2008. Obama will lose if Ron Paul runs 3rd party.
Quite possible, but I don’t think Ron Paul will run third party. He didn’t last time, and it wouldn’t make sense this time. I believe his goal is to move the Republican Party in a libertarian direction and/or get more voters to move in a Libertarian/Constitutional Party direction.
 
Democrats have had control of the inner cities for the last 60 years, what have they done for Black people. Very little. ‘Urban Renewal,’ ‘The Great Society’ programs?
Watch out, somebody is going to call you a racist. :o

Don’t you hate having to repeat your race all the time, to prove you are more credible?
 
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Health care=Medical care

There are no medical care issues now or before HHS started writing all their stupid rules for the glorious introduction of Obamacare. I know as a fact because my kid is in PICU now, The Pediatric Intensive Care Unit it treating indigent kids and rich people kids. The parents up here all have the same haggard exhausted fearful look on their face. Yet, no accountant is up there asking how the next IV bag is going to be paid for. The issues Pelosi, Reed, and Obama were supposed to be addressing were cost and insurance affordability none of which they really addressed. If they did, there wouldn’t be thousands of waivers. And you want to know how we know it is a lousy piece of s_ _ _ legislation? No politician is subject to it. All the union big wigs got waivers. Enjoy the bureaucratic controls that are coming. That is what this POS bill is about. Bureaucratic control and government power.
I couldn’t have said it better myself.

BTW, as a person who has spent months with a child in PICU, you have my prayers and my thoughts.
 
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