Three Positive Signs for Obama's Re-Election Chances

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The Magisterium is clear on a lot of issues; issues which the platform of the GOP runs contrary to.
Such as?

Pope Benedict has said that some issues have less moral weight than abortion and euthanasia.
No one said he should be ignored but Catholics aren’t obligated to either believe or act on statements made by the Pope which aren’t infallible.
Due respect, your not a Catholic and so maybe you don’t see the Pope’s words as important as a Catholic would, whether he is speaking ex cathedra or not.
 
Indeed. Let’s not talk about the killing of innocents sanctioned by the president. Let’s get back to how well he’s doing in the polls right now.
Yup. You open a thread about the President, and don’t expect his anti-life policies to be discussed? What exactly is in bounds?
 
Indeed. Let’s not talk about the killing of innocents sanctioned by the president. Let’s get back to how well he’s doing in the polls right now.
But it gets very tiresome…you cannot have a conversation about anything without it being hijacked.

Where do you all think these aborted children go?

I know my belief, and it ain’t a bad place.

John
 
Yup. You open a thread about the President, and don’t expect his anti-life policies to be discussed? What exactly is in bounds?
Yeah, that’s like starting a thread on McDonald’s except you can’t talk about burgers.
 
But it gets very tiresome…you cannot have a conversation about anything without it being hijacked.

Where do you all think these aborted children go?

I know my belief, and it ain’t a bad place.

John
Ahh…so, abortion is a positive. :eek: I guess I don’t see it your way. In fact, I find that to be pretty sick.
 
Ahh…so, abortion is a positive. I guess I don’t see it your way. In fact, I find that to be pretty sick.
You know I never said that…I find abortion to be repugnant…beyond that…you didn’t address the question.

John
 
But it gets very tiresome…you cannot have a conversation about anything without it being hijacked.

Where do you all think these aborted children go?

I know my belief, and it ain’t a bad place.

John
By that logic, we should abort all children. (I, too, believe that they are in Heaven, though)
 
By that logic, we should abort all children. (I, too, believe that they are in Heaven, though)
Not my logic, but we agree on the location.

John
 
You know I never said that…I find abortion to be repugnant…beyond that…you didn’t address the question.

John
Of course, I believe they go to heaven. So, do all victims of infanticide. It is sad and pathetic to even bring it up in an argument about the licitness of supporting pro-choice politicians. It implies a tacit acceptance of abortion because of the destination of the victims, regardless of whether you directly stated it.
 
47% approval and he hasn’t gotten ANY american companies to come back and make their products here…they prefer to use cheap chinese labor…

He did not take Osama out, that was Seal Team 6. the only good thing is most of the troops are home from Iraq…but there are still troops in Afghanistan.
 
If Obama announced he supported the legalization of pediophilia would you still support him?
Of course I would. Nobody’s perfect, and I’m not a one issue voter and we live in a pluralistic democracy in which those with a pedophile viewpoint and lifestyle should be respected. I don’t want to force my morality on others anyway.

Ishii
 
Of course I would. Nobody’s perfect, and I’m not a one issue voter and we live in a pluralistic democracy in which those with a pedophile viewpoint and lifestyle should be respected. I don’t want to force my morality on others anyway.

Ishii
Exactly. No-brainer. Done. Go Obama.
 
So, we’re just going to ask ridiculous, baseless questions now? Got it.
Or are we going off of the assumption that anyone who votes for or supports Obama is brainwashed and will fall for anything?
Or is it that he’s a morally corrupt Muslim, anti-christ president and God knows what he’ll propose next?
Tell me which fallacy we’re going with that supports you asking such an offensive question, just so I know.
In the meantime, watch your fingers around that cumbersome straw man you’re lugging around. I wouldn’t want you to get hurt.
Don’t worry, ConcernedApathy. I answered the question for all the posters who insist that its okay to support Obama even though he is in favor of abortion.

Ishii
 
Don’t worry, ConcernedApathy. I answered the question for all the posters who insist that its okay to support Obama even though he is in favor of abortion.

Ishii
I know Republicans are anti-pedophile, but they only believe in private charity. That’s a no-go.
 
Don’t worry, ConcernedApathy. I answered the question for all the posters who insist that its okay to support Obama even though he is in favor of abortion.

Ishii
I’m sorry, was my statement about the question being baseless. ridiculous and offensive too vague? Let me clarify. There is absolutely no comparison to the safe and legal medical procedure of abortion that affirms a woman’s control over her own body and the illegal, immoral and reprehensible aberration that is an inclination towards sexual gratification with or from children. Trying to find a link between these two things would be laughable if it weren’t so disturbingly misguided. Are we clear now? Great!
 
I’m sorry, was my statement about the question being baseless. ridiculous and offensive too vague? Let me clarify. There is absolutely no comparison to the** safe and legal medical procedure of abortion that affirms a woman’s control over her own body **and the illegal, immoral and reprehensible aberration that is an inclination towards sexual gratification with or from children. Trying to find a link between these two things would be laughable if it weren’t so disturbingly misguided. Are we clear now? Great!
Is that what you call the killing of an innocent human being?

I take it you are in favor of euthanasia, as well. Any other killing of innocents that is licit for you. Any particular races you can do without? I mean, as long as it’s made “safe and legal,” of course. We could just do lethal injections. It’s all good.
 
**Concerned Apathy wrote: “**There is absolutely no comparison to the safe and legal medical procedure of abortion that affirms a woman’s control over her own body…”

Bold Lettering Mine.

**Nimzovik Responds: **

Indeed…:rolleyes: Just how safe is the abortion procedure for the woman inside the body eh wot?:cool:

So much for the ‘Pursuit of** Life,** Liberty and Happiness’ ahemmmmmmm…?
 
I’m sorry, was my statement about the question being baseless. ridiculous and offensive too vague? Let me clarify. There is absolutely no comparison to the safe and legal medical procedure of abortion that affirms a woman’s control over her own body and the illegal, immoral and reprehensible aberration that is an inclination towards sexual gratification with or from children. Trying to find a link between these two things would be laughable if it weren’t so disturbingly misguided. Are we clear now? Great!
Safe for whom?
 
safe and legal medical procedure of abortion that affirms a woman’s control over her own body
Nice. You’ve euphemitized the sucking out of the womb of an unborn human being into an acceptable, even respected right! That, imo, is disturbing.
Are we clear now? Great!
The only thing I’m clear about is your refusal to answer a serious question. I will pose Estesbob’s question again:

If Obama was for legalized pedophilia would you support him for president?

And I will add a question:

Do you think that pedophilia and abortion are similarly gravely evil acts? Or do you think one is much worse than the other?

Ishii
 
illegal, immoral and reprehensible aberration that is an inclination towards sexual gratification with or from children.
So if it pedophilia ] were made legal …it’s no longer immoral and reprehensible and a right?

And you would support it?

You see “legal” is the only thing that separates Pedophilia and abortion in social acceptance. IT doesn’t change the reality of the acts.
Trying to find a link between these two things would be laughable if it weren’t so disturbingly misguided. Are we clear now? Great!
BOTH are acts against the defenseless - innocent.

One act does so…completely…totally…with no chance left to / for the victim to overcome the act. 😦

One act shatters… 😦

Yet, you find ONE “immoral and reprehensible” and the OTHER not.

Reality check: Social or legal acceptance - DOES NOT CHANGE THE OUTCOME - BOTH ARE ACTS AGAINST HUMANITY…NO one should need The Holy Father to tell them this.
Originally Posted by ConcernedApathy
safe and legal medical procedure of abortion that affirms a woman’s control over her own body
If Mr Obama told you he supports ** forced abortion and sterilization **and was willing to commit your tax payer money to fund it…would you vote for him?

He does!!

He flat out… supports murdering the innocent…
AND you support his efforts…for what…economics?

If one isn’t a part of the solution -.they are part of the problem and indeed a conspirator of the act. IMO 🤷
 
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