Tim Tebow's dad wants to convert Catholics in the Philippines?

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andrewstx said:
I wrote Bob Tebow asking why he can’t evangelise the Muslims and Pagans in the Phillipines instead of proseletyzing the Christians who are already there.

Wel’l see what if any answer I get.
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Perhaps its the guns that Abu Sayyaf and MILF have been known to use
 
well trying to convert, or even ‘help to grow in faith’ in an already christian nation, and most reasonable people would agree catholics are christian, even if they disagree on some expressions, is like people from oklahoma going to pennsylvania and trying to convince them to become Americans.
 
If the Protestants want to target Catholics for conversion, it will result as well in the destruction of common faith and prayer within Catholic families.
 
traillius said:
well trying to convert, or even ‘help to grow in faith’ in an already christian nation, and most reasonable people would agree catholics are christian, even if they disagree on some expressions, is like people from oklahoma going to pennsylvania and trying to convince them to become Americans.
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I think his argument falls more along the lines that children of illegal immigrants should not be Americans just because they were born in the United States, As a Baptist of some sort would he not believe in a believers baptism and not Christianity by birthright handed down by the parents?
 
would tim tebow’s dad agree to go to iran and preach the ‘gospel’ ( read: recite the sinner’s prayer for guaranteed, irrecovable, salvation requiring a rejection of anything extrabiblical, unless tim’s dad says it okay) ? I might respect him more for his stance on "growing people’s faith " if he could have the courage of his convictions enough to risk death or life imprisonment.
 
traillius said:
would tim tebow’s dad agree to go to iran and preach the ‘gospel’ ( read: recite the sinner’s prayer for guaranteed, irrecovable, salvation requiring a rejection of anything extrabiblical, unless tim’s dad says it okay) ? I might respect him more for his stance on "growing people’s faith " if he could have the courage of his convictions enough to risk death or life imprisonment.
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I see so now we don’t respect missionaries unless they are in Iran, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, or North Korea? What if he just went to a more dangerous area of Mindanao or a NPA controlled area?.
 
4Squarebaby said:
I see so now we don’t respect missionaries unless they are in Iran, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, or North Korea? What if he just went to a more dangerous area of Mindanao or a NPA controlled area?.
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He should go where the real non-christians are. The danger level isn’t the main issue. I just have to wonder why the evangelical missionaries always just happen to go to catholic countries, and rarely it seems go to muslim countries.
 
traillius said:
would tim tebow’s dad agree to go to iran and preach the ‘gospel’ ( read: recite the sinner’s prayer for guaranteed, irrecovable, salvation requiring a rejection of anything extrabiblical, unless tim’s dad says it okay) ? I might respect him more for his stance on "growing people’s faith " if he could have the courage of his convictions enough to risk death or life imprisonment.
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So you only respect missionaries who go places where they risk death or life imprisonment? Or, is your judgement specifically for Bob Tebow?

Also, Christian missionaries in countries such as Iran, China, etc. would be foolish to have websites advertising what they are doing as it would be targets on their backs and those of the people within these countries they are evangelizing.
 
so now they should just go to convert catholics to noncatholic christianity, and if they do go to where the real non-christians are, they should do so silently. Its a good thing saints Peter and Paul didn’t think that way. Who knows if christianity would have even survived.
 
4Squarebaby said:
I see so now we don’t respect missionaries unless they are in Iran, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, or North Korea? What if he just went to a more dangerous area of Mindanao or a NPA controlled area?.
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The problem is they didn’t. Tim Tebow was born in Makati City, which is the Financial Capital of the country right smack in the middle of Metro Manila. Hardly an area controlled by communist rebels or Islamic extremist.
 
onemangang said:
You would be surprised!
I am a re-vert, but I did attend a evangelical/fundamentalist “church” in Greater Los Angeles. It was comprised of around 60 people, all but 3 were either Filipino or Hispanic. Un-catechized transcends race, culture and class!
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But were these folks who had been converted as adults? I should add that 60 people is a pretty small number compared to the 5 million Catholics living in the greater LA area, many of whom, I would guess, are Hispanic.
 
Anyway the Broncos QB got to watch Tom Brady put on a clinic tonight, so we probably won’t have to hear about Tebow pater or fils for a while now.
My 49ers won though! (sorry, just had to add that)
 
Faithdancer said:
Anyway the Broncos QB got to watch Tom Brady put on a clinic tonight, so we probably won’t have to hear about Tebow pater or fils for a while now.
My 49ers won though! (sorry, just had to add that)
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Well, I guess Tim Tebow can now go back to what he does best. Proselytize Catholics in the Philippines :eek:
 
4Squarebaby said:
Perhaps its the guns that Abu Sayyaf and MILF have been known to use
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I think it far more likely that the Tebows like many Evangelical Christians don’t think of Catholics as Christians at all since we don’t beleive in “getting saved” without the sacraments.

I have Baptist and 4square relatives and they have told me “you can get baptised everyday, but if you don’t accept Jesus as your personal saviour it is only getting wet.”

Catholics accept Protestants as seperated brothers and sisters. we don’t think we are the only Christians.

I’m not so sure it’s true the other way round.

Like my cousins say “It’s good that some Catholics ‘get saved’ and become Christians”.
 
traillius said:
so now they should just go to convert catholics to noncatholic christianity, and if they do go to where the real non-christians are, they should do so silently. Its a good thing saints Peter and Paul didn’t think that way. Who knows if christianity would have even survived.
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What are you talking about when you refer to “silently”? Do you not realize that both Catholic and Protestant missionaries have lost their lives evangelizing in some of these countries? Anyone who has the courage to follow where the Holy Spirit leads them has my respect and I pray for God’s protection over them. Do you think it is okay to put someone down who is obviously a Christian just because they are not Catholic? I understand not supporting their ministry but why would you be critical of them when you truly do not have the experience of what they are doing? You are making assumptions as are some of the people in this thread. It’s the same thing as being critical of Protestants who criticize Catholics. It is divisive and un-Christian behavior

I personally don’t care, Catholic or Protestant, if a person is brought to Christ through the results of missions.
 
Slinger said:
What are you talking about when you refer to “silently”? Do you not realize that both Catholic and Protestant missionaries have lost their lives evangelizing in some of these countries? Anyone who has the courage to follow where the Holy Spirit leads them has my respect and I pray for God’s protection over them. Do you think it is okay to put someone down who is obviously a Christian just because they are not Catholic? I understand not supporting their ministry but why would you be critical of them when you truly do not have the experience of what they are doing? You are making assumptions as are some of the people in this thread. It’s the same thing as being critical of Protestants who criticize Catholics. It is divisive and un-Christian behavior

I personally don’t care, Catholic or Protestant, if a person is brought to Christ through the results of missions.
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I agree. But the problem her is missionaries like the Tebows are not targetting non-Christians. They are proselytizing Catholics. Well, of course they think Catholics are not Christians. Just look at his statement. A country that is today about 80% Catholic (I would put it close to 60% still active in some way even though nominal) is said to have 75% not hearing about the Gospel? He clearly means the Catholics.
 
Lost_Wanderer said:
Don’t forget the NPA. :rolleyes:

Now if you’ll excuse me, I gotta make a phone call.

dials number Hello? Nandyan ba si Manny? 😛
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Pacquiao is also becoming Protestant now. Too bad our religious pop icons are promoting the Protestant faith.
 
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