Time Magazine Mother's Day is Sexist

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VeritasLuxMea said:
Shouldn’t they be “engaged” at home as well, to some extent?
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Of course. And they are. Certainly I am. Methinks Fathers are a wonderful breed that are being much maligned by the media et. al. via terms like ‘Bio Daddy,’ ‘Dead Beat Dads (not Parents)’ and the like.
 
silentfactor80 said:
Hey Nim! Great to see you post again! If it is written by a liberal woman it is almost certainly going to have sexism involved because it is almost certainly going to reflect the feminist agenda which is to highlight all the supposed male inadequacies as justification for a power transfer to groups that only care about women. It is called relational aggression and it is something women excel at (silive.com/relationships/index.ssf/2010/09/the_queens_of_mean.html).

As far as Mothers Day goes, I think the way we glorify motherhood and not fatherhood is sexist. Have you been to the card store lately? Almost any card for a man is laced with some sexist or insulting punchline. I have seen very few if any cards that celebrate a woman with a sexist or insulting punchline. The irony is fatherhood is falling apart and the most society can do is make fun of it while failing to point out good examples. For once I would like to see mothers lead the way and honor their husbands for the good they do. I would also like to see them boycott the card stores and make their own cards. That is what I do now. As far as I’m concerned Hallmark can go bankrupt and I’ll be happy to send them a condolence card.
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Greetings!

Indeed! Your point of greeting cards is valid and one that is readily seen by sceptics when next in their favorite Grocery store.
 
silentfactor80 said:
It is called relational aggression and it is something women excel at (silive.com/relationships/index.ssf/2010/09/the_queens_of_mean.html).
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Please stop blaming the entire female gender for the poor behavior of some females. SilentFactor, whatever good points you make in your posts get drowned out by the sucker punches you aim at women. Your frequent use of hyperbole and your way of saying “women do this” or “women are that” is insulting and untrue of of womankind. It completely discounts the virtues of innumerable good and holy women who are vocally opposed to male-bashing and other forms of sexism.
 
GRATEFULONEjim said:
Congratulations to all the Catholics who keep electing officials that promote this out of control political correctness. I salute you:tiphat::tsktsk:
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Yeah! No kidding! Why Catholics voted for this current Anti Catholic, Pro Liberalism, Anti - Religious freedom administration is wayyyyyyyyyyyy beyond me!
 
AnnArbor said:
As are many mothers. I think the author has a valid point – the stereotypes of the clueless father and the mother who does all the nurturing and childcare are damaging to both sexes. In our home, it is the man who does the grocery shopping, laundry and much of the cleaning – as well as works full-time. And he spends a lot of quality time with the children.

It is the woman who does the cooking, the kitchen cleaning and the vacuuming – as well as works full-time. And she spends a lot of quality time with the children.

Neither parent is disengaged, neither is the sole role model for the value of paid work, neither is the sole role model for who does housework.
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Point taken.
 
Brando said:
It seems like the main argument isn’t that Mother’s Day is sexist against women, but rather that Mother’s Day/Father’s Day is sexist *against men. *And much of our popular culture is set up that way. TV shows us the bumbling, incompetent father and the amazing, patient mother. Greeting cards show us the same thing, and we shouldn’t ignore the damage that allowing these ideas into our culture presents.

Fathers are important. They’re good. We sacrifice a lot. For more traditional families, we sacrifice being sole breadwinners for the family. We then go home, change diapers, stay up with children, cook dinner, help our wives to relax, go to bed for a few hours and then start the whole thing over.

As a new father, it’s the greatest thing I can imagine. But to have society reduce my wife’s role as someone who wants nothing more than a break from her family is insulting to both of us. To reduce my role as a bumbling fool is an insult to both of us and a dangerous attack on my son.

My hope for Father’s Day is to spend the day at home. To change diapers, to spend the entire day with my son, not because it’s the only time I do it, but because it’s what I signed up for: to be a dad every day.
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Now this is a good Post
 
Havard said:
Greeting cards are but one example. Compare dads from older tv with dads in modern programming. They used to be family men, now they’re the family clowns.
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Yes… From ‘Father Knows Best’ to Homer Simpson, Al Bundy and ‘Everybody loves(not!) Raymond.’
 
silentfactor80 said:
It is called relational aggression and it is something women excel at (silive.com/relationships/index.ssf/2010/09/the_queens_of_mean.html).
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In addition, the article you link to says “some women” specifically, and several times. It makes a distinction that you fail to here in your post, namely that not all women are guilty of the errors of the few. The article does point out some of the ugliest and cruelest behaviors that are more common among women than men, but in no way does that imply that women as a gender are guilty of these behaviors, nor that even a majority of women behave this way.
 
Brando said:
It seems like the main argument isn’t that Mother’s Day is sexist against women, but rather that Mother’s Day/Father’s Day is sexist *against men. *And much of our popular culture is set up that way. TV shows us the bumbling, incompetent father and the amazing, patient mother. Greeting cards show us the same thing, and we shouldn’t ignore the damage that allowing these ideas into our culture presents.

Fathers are important. They’re good. We sacrifice a lot. For more traditional families, we sacrifice being sole breadwinners for the family. We then go home, change diapers, stay up with children, cook dinner, help our wives to relax, go to bed for a few hours and then start the whole thing over.

As a new father, it’s the greatest thing I can imagine. But to have society reduce my wife’s role as someone who wants nothing more than a break from her family is insulting to both of us. To reduce my role as a bumbling fool is an insult to both of us and a dangerous attack on my son.

My hope for Father’s Day is to spend the day at home. To change diapers, to spend the entire day with my son, not because it’s the only time I do it, but because it’s what I signed up for: to be a dad every day.
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Well stated Sir!
 
I am really sooooooooooo frustrated by the constant inundation of our Society of such tripe of articles of this nature.
 
Nimzovik said:
Yes… From ‘Father Knows Best’ to Homer Simpson, Al Bundy and ‘Everybody loves(not!) Raymond.’
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I miss The Cosby Show. Dr. Huxtable could be silly, but when it came down to it, he was a very wise dad and he was involved with each of his kids.
 
I dont think it’s the least bit sexist! Honestly though, our mothers have done so much and made so many sacrifices that they deserve more than one day.
 
I guess I do not see that there is some compulsion to treat your own mom or dad the way someone else treats theirs, just as there is no compulsion to buy rude birthday cards making fun of your friends’ ages or sagging bodies just because that is all the nearest greeting rack has. I could watch Homer Simpson every night for my entire life, and it would have nothing to do with how I saw my own dad because–oh, big surprise!!–my dad is nothing like Homer Simpson.
 
EasterJoy said:
I guess I do not see that there is some compulsion to treat your own mom or dad the way someone else treats theirs, just as there is no compulsion to buy rude birthday cards making fun of your friends’ ages or sagging bodies just because that is all the nearest greeting rack has. I could watch Homer Simpson every night for my entire life, and it would have nothing to do with how I saw my own dad because–oh, big surprise!!–my dad is nothing like Homer Simpson.
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That’s a good thing, but our society at large is still sick, and this is a part of the sickness. I’m not putting it on par with, say, no-fault divorce, but it is part of the overall erosion of the family, which is the basis of society.

To be clear, the ill I’m referring to is the increasingly low expectations of men, especially with respect to their role in the family, not The Simpsons. 😉
 
EasterJoy wrote:

“I guess I do not see that there is some compulsion to treat your own mom or dad the way someone else treats theirs, just as there is no compulsion to buy rude birthday cards making fun of your friends’ ages or sagging bodies just because that is all the nearest greeting rack has. I could watch Homer Simpson every night for my entire life, and it would have nothing to do with how I saw my own dad because–oh, big surprise!!–my dad is nothing like Homer Simpson.”

Yes. Of course. That is you. I have, unfortunately, had to work with’ TV kids.’ Kids that do not have actively involved parents due to alcoholism etc. I have had kids tell me they learned what values they have from ‘The Brady Bunch.’ Sad but true.

One can see where I am going with this - yes?

Then there is the ‘anti ideal’ humor that becomes an almost reflex when engaging in social congress after watching way too much TV.

How many couples today argue like Tim Allen? Employ verbal barbs learned on TV from shows like Desperate Housewives? Weeds? Maude?
 
Mother’s Day sexist? I think the author of the TIME article should consider visiting Dr. Phil.
 
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