Tired of religion being a barrier within our society and between families and people

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LatinCat:
Careful. We talking about your eternal salvation here.
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You must be an EENSer,

So do you have a reference of a pre-1054 pope of Rome appointing a patriarch (or any bishop) for any of those places in the East (meaning traditionally Byzantine or Orthodox lands)? Just as he does for any Catholic bishop in the world nowadays.
 
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Catholic29:
You must be an EENSer,

So do you have a reference of a pre-1054 pope of Rome appointing a patriarch (or any bishop) for any of those places in the East (meaning traditionally Byzantine or Orthodox lands)? Just as he does for any Catholic bishop in the world nowadays.
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It not a matter of what whether he appoints other bishop. The question to answer here is, “Did the early bishops of Rome have an office of primacy?” Now the Eastern Orthodox here will say he did, but then go on to deny it in the same post. Lets watch them do it. It will be fun.
 
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LatinCat:
It not a matter of what whether he appoints other bishop. The question to answer here is, “Did the early bishops of Rome have an office of primacy?” Now the Eastern Orthodox here will say he did, but then go on to deny it in the same post. Lets watch them do it. It will be fun.
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I have the question posted in the Eastern Christianity section as well, but no replies yet.

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=98103
 
there are still Eastern Catholics as in people who use the Divine Liturgy that the Eastern Orthodox use but they are in unity with the pope.
 
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wjp984:
there are still Eastern Catholics as in people who use the Divine Liturgy that the Eastern Orthodox use but they are in unity with the pope.
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Yes sir, I knew that
 
Yes, it’s very sad having “religion” being a barrier within our society. BUT in my opinion isn’t knowing you’re a sinner and repenting, knowing you’re saved through Jesus’s blood that he shed for the world for whoever may believe, then living a godly life the basis of CHRISTIANITY? i’m not going to talk about communion or baptism or other sacraments. Yes they are important but i just wanted to point out the main parts of our faith both Catholic and Protestant.

forgive me if i’m wrong or you’re are mad at me because i denied the authority of the catholic church.

In Christ,
BennyD
 
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BennyD:
Yes, it’s very sad having “religion” being a barrier within our society. BUT in my opinion isn’t knowing you’re a sinner and repenting, knowing you’re saved through Jesus’s blood that he shed for the world for whoever may believe, then living a godly life the basis of CHRISTIANITY? i’m not going to talk about communion or baptism or other sacraments. Yes they are important but i just wanted to point out the main parts of our faith both Catholic and Protestant.

forgive me if i’m wrong or you’re are mad at me because i denied the authority of the catholic church.

In Christ,
BennyD
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How do you repent if you don’t live a godly life ??

There are so much more to Christianity than what you mentioned and sacraments are VERY important. They nourish our spirtitual lives on our journey to salvation.

What would your body be like if it goes without proper nourishment?
 
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Catholic29:
Another way of putting it is:** how will God allow their error to be understood as such by them?:confused:**
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👋 By allowing them to continue to spinter!

**Divide **and conquor is a tool and if we refuse to listen than it can be used against us by you know who!!!

**Many **are beginning to ask this question and they want answers. A process of waking up has already begun!!

Shalom,
Catherine
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cathgal:
How do you repent if you don’t live a godly life ??

There are so much more to Christianity than what you mentioned and sacraments are VERY important. They nourish our spirtitual lives on our journey to salvation.

What would your body be like if it goes without proper nourishment?
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You repent by admitting you’re sinful. and I wasn’t denying sacraments’ importance. I was just saying that they’re not the MOST important things. Believing and living an obedient life to god sum up all of christianity in my opinion.
 
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Catholic29:
In other words how and when will all of this Baptist, Methodist, Presbyterian, Episcopalian, Nazarene, Assembly of God, Church of Christ, Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox etc etc etc, come to an end?
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Good question Mr. Catholic29,

But since you are a Catholic, I think it is better for you if you ask Holy infallible Papacy who is under the “guidance” of Holy Ghost and makes no mistakes [atleast when interpreting her Bible], may enlighten you after confirming/receiving “inspiration” from her the only one true version of Holy Ghost.

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And what about the Jewish faith? The devout Jews I know insist that God established a convenant (sp?) with them that continues today. The same God worshiped by the Christians, I think. And the Orthodox especially believe that they, their ancestors, and their children are children of Abraham and therefore heirs to the promises that God made Abraham. And do not, repeat, do not tell a member of the Jewish faith that they are going to hell because they are not Christians. Seems to piss them off.
 
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Catholic29:
If man created all these religious and theological barriers, is it man who is supposed to dismantle them? Or is it God who is to bring them down in His own time?

In other words how and when will all of this Baptist, Methodist, Presbyterian, Episcopalian, Nazarene, Assembly of God, Church of Christ, Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox etc etc etc, come to an end?

Anyone have anything more to add?
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Each denomination thinks they are right. However, we are all Christians; it’s sad we are so divided. Probably not what God had in mind. If one could look upon him, IMO he would have a frown on his face and he would be shaking his head.

If you bring in non-Christian religions who also think they are right; it is truly mind-boggling.
 
The Catholic Church is not a barrier at all. It is universal. All people who want to live according to God’s plan are welcome and even those who don’t do what is right (which is everyone) are welcome.

The barrier between people is sin.
 
Chris Jacobsen:
The Catholic Church is not a barrier at all. It is universal. All people who want to live according to God’s plan are welcome and even those who don’t do what is right (which is everyone) are welcome.

The barrier between people is sin.
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And Catholicism is by far not the only religion in the world mind you. Even in our United States alone there are upwards of 20,000 Christian denominations, depending on whoever’s estimation. And more often than not and increasingly so, families are divided among them.

To have all of your blood relatives cradle Catholic and still practicing is a rarity in our country today. But if your from a mainly Catholic country such as Poland, Italy or Spain, you probably would have no concept of what it is like to not be able to say grace together before meals or Rosary in the evening, much less Mass and the sacraments. I have personaly experienced this myself on innumerable occasions within my own family.

All of this is one point I mean by religion being a barrier amongst people, but there are others as well.
 
Well, I think that God doesn’t really mind all the variations on His original Church. I think even A.A. meetings are a “way” toward God that He approves. I believe it originated by God’s very hand in the Catholic Church, but knowing how varied, corruptable, stupid, stubborn, etc we are - He allows us other rockier, bumpier “ways” to get to Him. Ultimately, He wants all of us with Him.
Jesus described God as a loving parent -more loving than any of us are capable of being towards our own children. It would stand to reason that God would do everything including inspiring other less desirable “ways” to get us to Him.

Not everyone in the Catholic Church is going to be saved anyway. There are a lot of crappy people in this world and that includes Catholics. I think one of the crappiest things any of us can do is believe another human being is less desireable to God just because they’re a Protestant or a Methodist or a Lutheren or … just confused! In the end, it’s a battle for our souls and God’s fighting very hard for every one of us.

I don’t believe “religion” is the barrier. I have a Muslim friend, a Jewish friend, a few Born Again friends, Catholic friends, Lutheren friends, agnostic friends and more… The barriers stem more from ego and fear. When you mix ego and fear you get a nice simmering stew of Hate.
 
Chris Jacobsen:
The Catholic Church is not a barrier at all. It is universal. All people who want to live according to God’s plan are welcome and even those who don’t do what is right (which is everyone) are welcome.

The barrier between people is sin.
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What is the sin exactly? Is it being sure your religion is the only one God approves? There are many ways to God. The Catholic church is God’s Church. But do you think that all other religions are roads to Hell? If everything works to the good of God, which I believe is true, then all religions are pathways to God.
 
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Catholic29:
Just what I expected,

Such a profound observation and no one has anything to say about it, how typical…

Another thread bites the dust I guess. :whistle:
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You fail to understand that even though Catholicism came along later in history than some other religions worshipping the same God, it’s the only true Christianity.

heavy sarcasm

The fact is, the beleifs are what matter. Not where you choose to worship them. I seriously doubt that when Christ started CHRISTIANITY, which is why it is named after Him, He had the idea that there were no ways to worship Him than the way Catholics have chosen.
 
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