Tithe in LDS. Friend worried

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Why should we read it? The Mormons believe the Bible so long “as far as translated correctly”(Articles of Faith 1), not sure Mormons would say that about my RSVCE Bible.
 
@CourtingTex, there are plenty ways to defend what LDS does in this situation (ie: what @gazelam pointed out), and a few other ways to question Catholic (i.e Whether we are going to convert her). None of them involve using the bible to make Jesus like a greedy monster who want to kick down the poor. Even if you bring it to Southern Baptist, Evangelical, other Protestant etc it will be the same.

Or as KJV stated:
"Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone."Matthew 23:23 (Emphasis mine)

At least be charitable you your LDS bretherns. If they have problem keeping the biblical words, maybe you can explain how other ways an LDS follower can do, aside from what gazelam pointed out.
 
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gazelam said:
LDS here… (the old forum provided a way to display one’s denomination, but I don’t see that in the new setup.)
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You can add your religion to your profile so that when reading comments people can hover over your avatar and see your religion. Mine shows “Pentecostal Christian” when you hover over the yellow L that accompanies my name.
 
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In the case of this lady, as I have said ---- paying of tithing should not be viewed from a economic standpoint ---- God gives us everything and so we are going to quibble over paying tithing?

If this lady has needs, such as food, the church can take care of her if requests such help
 
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We don’t live in the same place. She is currently in an extended living home 450 miles away.
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It is truly unfortunate that she is in this situation. Did she ask you for advice or was she venting?

If she asked for advice, I would contact an elder attorney or elder affairs on her behalf. This seems very much like elder abuse.
 
So based on the answer on both, it’s:
Step 1: Pay the tenth (or is it a hard amount as the OP indicated) of her income?
Step 2: Ask for assistance.

Is my understanding correct? Thank you in advance.
 
CourtingTex said:
In the case of this lady, as I have said ---- paying of tithing should not be viewed from a economic standpoint ---- God gives us everything and so we are going to quibble over paying tithing?

If this lady has needs, such as food, the church can take care of her if requests such help
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Merciless tithing is abusive. Based on the way the bishop acted–indicating the woman would be in trouble–it is abusive and contrary to even LDS law as I understand it.
 
I have a question for any LDS or former LDS members who know. How does the LDS Church define the tithe exactly? In many of the churches I’ve attended tithing is taught as 10 percent of one’s income pre-tax, but people can give this weekly or monthly or however they want.
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I have a friend that is 91 years old and LDS. She has a limited income, and is having problems paying the Tithe she was told she had to pay. $150 a month.
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Question: Does she work? What kind of income does she have? Retirement? Social Security? Wouldn’t that be considered past income that she’s already saved? Presuming that she’s already tithed while working, wouldn’t tithing be necessary on present income, not past income?
 
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If this woman went to her bishop and asked for her tithing amount to be lowered…

Why didn’t he suggest asking for help and then seeing if she could tithe? Why did he not offer her the help you say exists?

I think she was treated disrespectfully. I don’t believe God expects payback at any cost. He is not asking people to starve or not pay their rent so they can fork over money to their church.
 
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Tithing is a commandment of God. The bishop should not be the bad guy here — the bishop is not in a position to change a commandment in the case of this lady, who apparently wanted to pay less than 10%.
 
Wants, or needs to?

I think we still have to prove that tithing is mandatory before we can determine who, if anyone, is at fault.
 
CourtingTex said:
Tithing is a commandment of God. The bishop should not be the bad guy here — the bishop is not in a position to change a commandment in the case of this lady, who apparently wanted to pay less than 10%.
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What? Bishops are called to mercy. From my understanding, the Bishop has no right to threaten to penalize her. He also is obligated to work with her to find every way for her to meet that tithe, including, but not limited to providing an allowance for food, clothing, housing or any other needs. Meaning, a GOOD bishop would accept the tithe but then find a way to get money back to her. The way she was treated was not in line with LDS teaching.
 
I’m not an expert, and I don’t know what the Mormon view of this is, but it seems to me like they should be able to work something out.
 
Thom18 ---- are you calling God a liar regarding payment of tithing? A commandment of God is a commandment of God so that what make its mandatory. I recognize the man made practices that exists in a lot of churches apparently gives cause to not keep this particular commandment ---- again why I grateful for the restoration of the true gospel in light what other churches in their thinking have changed a commandment to do essentially what they want.
 
Which commandment exactly? Please tell me where you are getting this from. Yes, let’s just assume I don’t know.
 
I never even suggested that. Please don’t think that. I’m asking, is tithing commanded now? God once commanded that parapets for roofs be made so people don’t fall off. I’ll ask again, does the LDS church require its members to do so? If not, why not, and why tithing, then?
 
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What version are you using, because all I see is that Abram chose to give God 10%. I don’t see where God commanded it.
 
CourtingTex said:
One Bible scripture ---- Genesis 14:18-20.
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That seems like a stretch to me. That’s from pre-Judaism, before the Jewish people were gathered together and given the commandments. Besides, did God command that Abram give anything, or even specify “a tenth”?
 
Your response explains further why overall regardless of what Christian church, every church interprets scriptures differently. Abram was giving to God what was required. How much clearer does it have to be?

I used the King James ---- of course I am going to be told that does not make this a commandment ---- folks go away ---- I could cite other Old Testament scriptures and you would say the same thing.

Accept the fact that you do not want to pay tithing, in spite the fact it is a commandment of God and your man made forms of supporting the church supersede a clear commandment of God.
 
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