TLM ever done in the venacular

[meridith]

I understand that the TLM is said in Latin, but is there one where it is done the same as the the TLM but in the venacular?

 

[Filioque]

Historically there were a few places and times that it was done in the vernacular. But not any longer among Roman Catholics.

There are some very few Antican Churches that use a Missal that is almost a direct copy of the TLM in english, with minor modifications. However from parish to parish these Anglican parishes may have modifications that are taken from Anglican sources.

 

[marchoi]

The Traditional LATIN Mass would normally be done in Latin…

But I’ve heard that some high-church Anglican liturgies resemble the TLM in the vernacular…

 

[corsair]

But, there some major differences as has been pointed out.

 

[Harpazo]

Glory to Jesus Christ!

Some Orthodox parishes that are a part of the Western Orthodox Vicariate use the Divine Liturgy of St. Gregory. This is the TLM in English, but without the filioque clause in the Creed and an explicit epiclesis. I cannot comment as to what it is like as I have never been to one.

I would be curious to know if the TLM is ever celebrated vernacularly.

In Christ,
Andrew

 

[James0235]

I understand that the TLM is said in Latin, but is there one where it is done the same as the the TLM but in the venacular?

Well, if it was done in the vernacular it wouldn’t exactly be the Traditional Latin Mass, would it? More like the Traditional Vernacular Mass.

As Filioque and marchoi have already pointed out some Anglican groups use what is essentially the Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite but in English. These parishes (some of which actually have validly ordained priests and therefore a valid Mass) use Liturgical Books which are essentially (but not exactly) English versions of the Roman Missal, such as the Knott Missal. (The TLM uses the 1962 Roman Missal and most of the Anglican versions are based on Missals from before 1955 so there are a few differences there but not many).

If you want to see what the Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite, the Traditional Latin Mass, would look like in English you can see some videos of a Mass from St. Clements Anglo-Catholic Church in Philadelphia here. An accompanying Service Sheet containing the Propers of the Mass is available here. These texts appear to be the same as those used in the TLM for the Feast of Corpus Christi - the Thursday after Trinity Sunday.

With the recent announcement of the creation of a number of Personal Ordinariates (essentially Dioceses) for Anglicans who wish to convert to Catholicism while maintaining elements of their Liturgical heritage, it is quite possible that we well begin seeing such Masses in Catholic parishes in the next few years.

James

 

[porys]

There were some traditional western mass celebrated in almost venacular on area of Czech Republic and Croatia before II VC. Almost - because it was said in Old-Church-Slavic (OCS) - protoslavic languge unified in 9 centaury by ss. Cyril and Methodius (te same langauage used contepmporary in eastern slavic Leaturgy). Missals were written in old slavic alphabet called glagolitsa (glagolic alphabet). OCS is not fully understood now by Slavic people - but I think it is more easier for us Slavic than ancient Latin for Italians or French.
Nowadays fr. Tomasz Strzisko FSSPX in Czech Republic celebrates Western Liturgy Traditional Mass twice a year. OCS missal is a literal translation od TLM Missal into OCS.
Here you can see the sample:
latinska-misa.com/text/glasip.pdf
(2 page od this pdf column 2 - in latin letters - psalm - iudica me)