TLM parishes Vs territorial parish culture?

[CatholicWife1]

I have gone to both Novus Ordo masses and Tridentine Latin masses, but overall I have only been a member of Novus Ordo parishes. I am curious though what is the difference between parish life and culture in a Tridentine parish as opposed to a novus ordo parish. Is there any difference at all? I do sense there to be a stereotype that Traditionals are less friendly. I don’t have enough experience though to be able to confirm or deny this stenotype though. I love the Latin mass, but I haven’t made the leap to joining a Latin mass parish. Thoughts?

 

[steph03]

It will probably vary from parish to parish … being friendly etc. etc. You can have good or bad experiences in the TLM (Tridentine - Traditional Latin Mass) or P6M (Pope St.Paul VI mass) … Novus Ordo is usually a term used by TLM folks as derogatory to the P6M.

 

[CatholicWife1]

What is P6M?
edit: never-mind, I just reread your post!

 

[gohjedrek]

I attend Ordinariate mass, it’s more friendly than the Novus Ordo, but maybe that’s because it’s a small parish made up of many converts. Don’t see anything wrong either with mentioning NO mass. The term isn’t derogatory, what comes after the term is.

 

[CatholicWife1]

I had to look that up. Even though I’m a cradle Catholic I feel so behind sometimes with all the Church lingo.

 

[Fauken]

Novus Ordo is usually a term used by TLM folks as derogatory to the P6M.

I wouldn’t say this is typically derogatory, in my opinion. Just on this site.

 

[CatholicWife1]

steph03:

Novus Ordo is usually a term used by TLM folks as derogatory to the P6M.

I wouldn’t say this is typically derogatory, in my opinion. Just on this site.

True. Its probably not a derogatory term but rather just held in lower esteem by Tridentine catholics.

 

[CatholicWife1]

Im sorry, Im lost. Which one is the ordinary form?

 

[JimR-OCDS]

I never heard of a “traditional parish,” just parishes that have one TLM Mass.

Generally, the TLM is attended by a majority who do not belong to that parish, and travel well outside of their parish deanery to attend that Mass.

My advice is attend the parish you intend to belong to. The parish where you and your family will receive the sacraments throughout their lives. It’s the community you live in, get to know them.

 

[gohjedrek]

Are we to get too triggered by the term or answer the OP question? I don’t sense hate from the OP over the NO mass term, so just move on with the original question.

 

[steph03]

the ordinary form is the pope Paul VI mass… or Novus Ordo. As opposed to the Traditional Latin mass, extraordinary form of the mass… or Tridentine mass.

 

[gcshapero]

I tend to be more traditional and appreciate a much more traditional liturgy and parish culture.

That said, the most warm and devout parish I attended on a regular basis was a Novus Ordo parish that even had certain tendencies of being charismatic.

The charismatic moments never seemed to take place during the Mass – it was typically at other events held at the parish.

The priest was very attentive to his parishioners, made Confession more frequent for them, had challenging homilies, and spoke about the hot-button topics in a very clear and loving way.

The parishioners were made up of many young families. Even many of the kids (up to the college age) were solid. I would see groups of teens going to the 24 hr adoration chapel together, praying the rosary, etc.

It was a pretty incredible parish.

 

[CatholicWife1]

Where we live now is temporary. We will be moving in the next few months.
Edit: Im looking into this for future reference.

 

[1ke]

but overall I have only been a member of Novus Ordo parishes

There is no such thing as a “novus ordo parish”.

Tridentine parish

There is also no such thing as a “Tridentine parish”.

Parishes are territorial. There are also personal parishes which are usually ethnic parishes but could be some other type of personal parish that is not territorially based.

Parishes might have masses in any number of languages and either form— English, Spanish, Vietnamese, Polish, and more in the ordinary form, and Latin ordinary form and/ or Latin extraordinary form.

There may be a number of these languages and both forms, all at one parish.

 

[CatholicWife1]

Okay, thank you for the information. I have seen churches though that offer only the Latin Mass. I feel like I must be missing something.

 

[Fauken]

I’m aware it is. I’m simply stating that trads do not normally use Novus Ordo in a derogatory manner towards the OF. I do hear them on occasion call the TLM the Vestus Ordo, Tridentine Mass, etc.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

Then look for the parish in the area you’ll be moving to and attend that one.

Most likely, it celebrates the Novus Ordo, being that’s the ordinary

 

[1ke]

Okay, thank you for the information. I have seen churches though that offer only the Latin Mass. I feel like I must be missing something.

There are some rare parishes (personal or diocesan) staffed by priests such as FSSP which exclusively say the Tridentine mass according to the 1962 missal. But they are the exception, not the rule.

By way of example: Sts Peter and Paul parish in Naperville IL has FSSP priests who say the Tridentine mass, but the parish pastor is a diocesan priest and there are both ordinary form and Tridentine masses. In contrast, in Minneapolis, All Saints was a Polish personal parish, and likely fell into decline, and was given into the care of FSSP priests in 2013, so in that personal parish mass is offered only in the extraordinary form. But it still isn’t a “Tridentine parish” it’s a personal parish.

And Holy Rosary parish in Houston is a diocesan parish staffed by Dominicans and they have ordinary form mass in English and Vietnamese and a Latin ordinary form mass while Annunciation parish in Houston has diocesan priests and the ordinary form masses in English and Latin plus the extraordinary form in Latin.

 

[phil19034]

I never heard of a “traditional parish,” just parishes that have one TLM Mass.

Generally, the TLM is attended by a majority who do not belong to that parish, and travel well outside of their parish deanery to attend that Mass.

My advice is attend the parish you intend to belong to. The parish where you and your family will receive the sacraments throughout their lives. It’s the community you live in, get to know them.

There actually are a growing number of Personal Parishes established in dioceses all over that are dedicated to the 1962 Mass and 1962 Sacraments.

Some are ran by the FSSP (or other order dedicated to the Latin Mass), while some others are completely diocesan.

Many (not all) of the FSSP Churches are actually Personal Parishes or Personal Quasi-Parishes

God Bless

 

[porthos11]

Okay, thank you for the information. I have seen churches though that offer only the Latin Mass. I feel like I must be missing something.

No, you are not. There are (although few and far between), parishes that are staffed exclusively by communities like the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter, who would then offer the Vetus Ordo exclusively. These would, however, be personal parishes, rather than territorial.

The other churches you may have seen are illicit chapels set up by the Society of St. Pius X, a priestly fraternity that has no canonical standing with the Church.