TLM'ers - Why do you go?

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findinghumility:
I’m 39. I just switched to TLM 5 months ago. After a decade or so of putting up with the nonsense at the various N.O. parishes which I attended, I finally had enough. I watched as my children’s faith was challenged by Santa Claus plays in the sanctuary. A girl Jesus in one of the passion plays (real cute huh?) Children brought up around the alter to help “father” consecrate at mass. A so called “catholic” university in which a professor of theology told us that “transubstantiation” was a passe’ belief of the Roman Catholic Church. Disobedience on top of disobedience to the pope regarding rubrics and orders found in documents like “Redemptionis Sacamentum” . The list could go on ad infinitum.
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And I suppoose in place of transubstantiation, it was transfinalization or transignification being promoted - something Fr. John A. Hardon wrote quite a bit about.
When I hear people say that independent TLM communities are disobedient to the pope I just have to laugh now. It’s a nice defense mechanism I guess for those who attend the so called “indult” mass because they recognize the sacreligious atmosphere of the N.O. and yet they can’t realize that that atmosphere is a direct result of the changes made by and continued on by the Post Vatican II popes. After all, if you have a Cardinal Mahoney type running your diocese, who do you think put him there and who do you think allows him to keep promoting the abuses?
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While I can understand the frustration in the first paragraph, this paragraph leave me troubled and I’m hoping you can elaborate a little on some points and maybe it was just a choice of words. This statement almost smacks of SSPX or indicative of some other schismatic sect. Am I incorrect? Are you at a parish that has an indult or in a parish celebrating the TLM which does not have the indult (which would likely mean it is schismatic). The process of choosing bishops is not exclusive to the pope, but had help in the following way by one person in particular.

From an Sept 26, 2002 article by Paul Likoudis in The Wanderer:

…Jadot is still proud of some of his most notorious picks, such as Bishop Walter Sullivan of Richmond, Va., Archbishop Jean Jadot, Pope Paul VI’s apostolic delegate to the United States from 1973-1980, has no regrets about the spate of bad bishops he infficted on the Catholics of this country…

and further down the same article:

Other men who became bishops during Jadot’s tenure in the United States include Rochester Bishop Matthew Clark; Albany’s Howard Hubbard; former Santa Fe Archbishop Roberto Sanchez, who resigned in a sex scandal; former San Jose Bishop Pierre DuMaine; former Honolulu Bishop Joseph Ferrario; San Antonio Archbishop Patrick Flores; former Newark Archbishop Peter Gerety; Joliet, Ill., Bishop Joseph Imesch; Louisille Archbishop Thomas C. Kelly, O.P., a former staffer at the apostolic nuncio under Jadot; Bernard Cardinal Law of Boston (whom Jadot selected as bishop for Springfield-Cape Girardeau, Mo.), Cincinnati Archbishop Daniel Pilarczyk; Saginaw, Mich., Bishop Kenneth Untener - to name a few more - all of whom, supposedly, mirrored his own progressive image as a “man of the people.”
The last couple of years before I switched I tried and tried to deal with the N.O. mass, but nearly every Sunday I found myself leaving the church more disgusted than the previous.
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Just remember, that the TLM and TLM communities are fine, but rejecting the current pope in any way is a rejection of the Holy Catholic Church. I hope that is not what I am picking up. Those were horrible abuses you had to tolerate and maybe one of the names above will ring a bell. Where progressiveness ruled, there is the most widespread liturgical abuse and most likely a very difficult time finding an abuse free N.O. liturgy. However, even a liturgy that is illicit is better than a liturgy that is done outside of Communion with Rome. Most abuses fall in the category of illicit, and do not invalidate the Mass. And, there are avenues for reporting abuse directly to the Holy See. One of the problems is that people continue to go to Mass and put it with the abuse or simply leave, and no one is writing to the Vatican. They can’t fix what they don’t know is broke. Give them specifics and time and it will be taken care of. Sometimes it may take lots of letters coming from within a diocese to show the problem.
 
I fled to a tlm to escape from incomplete liturgy (the penitential rite was completely left out), from people talking loudly before and after Mass in the church, from dreadful music, from homilies which seemed to relate to the weekend newspapers rather than the gospel and from people dressed for the beach.
At the tlm I found blessed, beautiful silence, reverence, an atmosphere of transcendence, sermons which were thoughtful and relevant (meat and vegetables as opposed to candy floss), people behaving respectfully and dressed modestly and gorgeous Gregorian chant.
I go to an FSSP parish, which attracts a wide variety of age groups. Unfortunately there are a lot of people with integralist mindset, which wories me a great deal.
I also attend the NO at a parish run by Opus Dei priests. I can trust them to be faithful to the GIRM, to be freely available to hear confession and to give wonderful homilies.
I have the best of both the old and current forms of the Mass: the same sacrifice of Calvary!
 
So, does this mean you are going to join the altar-boy corp when you can drive?
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Actually at about 3pm this afternoon I will try to get in touch again with Msgr. and see if I can’t start serving straightaway.

(My parents are fine so long as it is not every week- once or twice a month)
 
For over 14 years, I attended a Latin NO ad orientem Mass that was unassailably orthodox in every way. We were “the Grotto” before Grotto had its current incarnation and pastor. Then a new pastor was appointed to the parish who started to nibble away at the Mass. First, we had to fight him to preserve the ad orientem posture. He agreed to continue to use Latin, but “fratres” became “fratres et sorores”. Then, bell ringing was suppressed during Mass, as was double genuflection in from of the exposed Blessed Sacrament. Later, he abolished kneeling for Holy Communion.

Consequently, parishioners started to flee this parish for others, most notably Grotto. One could argue that the new GIRM supports some of these changes. However, this experience opened my eyes to the dependence of sacred tradition and reverence in the Mass on a specific celebrant or pastor. Today’s orthodox NO parish could become tomorrow’s generic suburban one with the snap of a pastor’s reassignment. This is happening right now at a downtown parish that recently lost its pastor. It would not be surprising to see that parish die from attrition because of the essential elimination of its reverent character.

My wife and I started attending the TLM in Windsor, where despite a rotation of celebrants, the rubrics were stable; and the postures and prayers could not be modified at whim with justification from some ambiguous church document. TLM rubrics are solidly documented and open to very little interpretation from celebrant to celebrant.

In addition, I find the Prayers at the Foot of the Altar, the Offertory prayers, and the post-Pater Noster prayers in the TLM to be much more expressive of the Holy Catholic Faith, the unworthy nature of the priest offering the Mass, and the sacrificial character of the Mass. As a long time altar server at both the NO Latin and TLM, I have come to appreciate the deeper significance of the much more specific gestures, movements, and rubrics of the TLM.

I was not as interested in finding a parish with a full parish life, or one with a top-notch homilist, as one that did just one thing very, very well, the Sunday Mass and its accompanying music. One where I could invest my time and volunteer efforts and not feel like it could all be taken away. Windsor and now St. Josaphat fulfill that need. Both have the music, the reverent atmosphere, absence of liturgical abuses, and likeminded fellow worshippers that help form an undistracted faith life. Both congregations are solidly in union with Rome, and troublesome extreme traditionalists have been few.

Nothing is certain in life, including the continuation of an indult Mass, but the TLM offers a purity of form and stability that I do not find in even the NO Latin Mass world. And the TLM offers you that stability world-wide. It doesn’t matter what country you are in; when you step into a TLM, you pretty much know what you will be getting.

Finally, I must state that I am an ardent supporter of the NO Latin Mass. It can be very edifying to the faith. But at this point in my life, I feel the TLM offers a less ambiguous, more clearly articulated, purer form of prayer.
 
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Lux_et_veritas:
I just have to ask this question and the thread is not for those who attend Novus Ordo Masses. Rather the target is people who regularly or periodically attend a TLM. I am going to ask moderators to help keep this thread in that light, lest it become another runaway TLM vs. Novus Ordo war thread. I simply want to use it to hear from people why they attend the TLM.

To all TLM’ers who respond, please note that I am asking any moderator watching to strip this thread of any obvious attacks on the Novus Ordo for things which are sanctioned by the Holy See, or are in the GIRM. Be sure to speak in terms of preferences in this regard because it is also ok to not like some things for which flexibility is given directly or indirectly.

For the record, I do not attend a TLM but am genuinely interested in knowing how many in this forum attend and why you attend.

Once again, anyone wanting to take undiplomatic or uncharitable jabs at the N.O. should start their own thread. I don’t want it here, any more than I want people who don’t go to TLM’s hijacking the thread to address things said.

It is ok to talk in terms of specific things. But just reflect a little and be sure to provide specifics. Here are some starting thoughts and a few questions at the bottom.

Music?

Homily?

Silence?

Lack of traditionally celebrated Novus Ordo’s in your area?

Raised in TLM and still gravitate that way?

Or other?

What about the culture within your TLM communities? Are they generally faithful to all doctrines or are they selective? Is this discussed among parishioners?

Were you born and raise pre or post vatican 2?

Do you see young people attending and if so, what is the rough mix (like 80% senior 20% youthful, or include middle age - rough percentages).?
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I alternate between EDIT two parishes in my area…

I was born after Vatican II (1974) and the first time I attended a Tridentine Mass was in college. At the 9:00 a.m. Tridentine Mass in Pequannock, there’s approximately 65% younger (under 35) and 35% older (over 50) Catholics. It’s about the same split at the Novus Ordo Mass, although there seem to be more little children at the Tridentine Mass and larger families (4-5 kids) versus the Novus Ordo Mass (1-2 kids).

I prefer the Tridentine Mass. When I went to the Novus Ordo Mass at EDIT a parish two weeks ago, it was the Feast of the Baptism of Our Lord. During the sermon, the priest made the comment that the Catholic Church had still not answered the Holy Spirit’s call to ordain married men and women to the priesthood. Now that comment was obviously false–whether through ignorance or otherwise I don’t know. Many of the Eastern Rites do allow married priests as does the Anglican Use within the Latin Rite. Moreover, it implies that our Holy Father’s faithful adherence to tradition in the prohibition against women priestesses is somehow in direct disobedience to God’s will.

In contrast, I attended EDIT another parish today. The priest (who was about 40 years younger than the priest who preached at the first parish EDIT) gave a sermon that encouraged the laity to try to convert the Muslims to the Catholic Faith.

If there was a Catholic Church in the area that followed the Novus Ordo without any “liturgical liberties” and faithfully preached the Faith, I would prefer to attend that Mass. Unfortunately, there is no church in the area that matches that description so I attend the TLM. The priests are in communion with our Holy Father and I have yet to hear a single criticism of our Holy Father come out of their mouths. I guess they just seem like the real thing to me.

And my one-year old daughter likes Latin and who am I to stop her …
 
Lux_et_veritas:

What Findinghumility is trying to say is that the theologian is not teaching the doctrine of Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist as accpted by the Church since the time of the Apostles…
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Lux_et_veritas:
And I suppoose in place of transubstantiation, it was transfinalization or transignification being promoted - something Fr. John A. Hardon wrote quite a bit about.
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…I dealt with one of these at USF in the late 1970’s andwith others from time to time. You’ll also see that a lot of the lack of reverence and awe in our Churches is because most of the people aren’t being taught this either. As One protestant preacher put it, “If i really believed that was jesus in that wafer, I would hang on to the alter so tight you couldn’t pry me off with a crowbar!”

And, those terms do not mean what transubstantiation means.

She stated this was an indult parish - we have to take her at her word. I don’t think she’s trying to pick a fight, but just telling us what these people are saying. In all charity, I think it behooves us to listen.

I happen to live in Cardinal Mahony’s Archdiocese. The subject for the homily in the parish I atteded for the Solemnity of the Immaculate Conception of the Blessed Virgin Mary was “Violence”. It had nothing to do with the Great Mystery of the Immaculate Conception of our Blessed Mother.

Most people have no idea what process Popes use for choosing Bishops, and they have even less knowledge about the paucity of real knowledge Popes have on the various Bishops and how much they have to rely on outside people to make those decisions…
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Lux_et_veritas:
While I can understand the frustration in the first paragraph, this paragraph leave me troubled and I’m hoping you can elaborate a little on some points and maybe it was just a choice of words. This statement almost smacks of SSPX or indicative of some other schismatic sect. Am I incorrect? Are you at a parish that has an indult or in a parish celebrating the TLM which does not have the indult (which would likely mean it is schismatic). The process of choosing bishops is not exclusive to the pope, but had help in the following way by one person in particular.

From an Sept 26, 2002 article by Paul Likoudis in The Wanderer:

…Jadot is still proud of some of his most notorious picks, such as Bishop Walter Sullivan of Richmond, Va., Archbishop Jean Jadot, Pope Paul VI’s apostolic delegate to the United States from 1973-1980, has no regrets about the spate of bad bishops he infficted on the Catholics of this country…

and further down the same article:

Other men who became bishops during Jadot’s tenure in the United States include Rochester Bishop Matthew Clark; Albany’s Howard Hubbard; former Santa Fe Archbishop Roberto Sanchez, who resigned in a sex scandal; former San Jose Bishop Pierre DuMaine; former Honolulu Bishop Joseph Ferrario; San Antonio Archbishop Patrick Flores; former Newark Archbishop Peter Gerety; Joliet, Ill., Bishop Joseph Imesch; Louisille Archbishop Thomas C. Kelly, O.P., a former staffer at the apostolic nuncio under Jadot; Bernard Cardinal Law of Boston (whom Jadot selected as bishop for Springfield-Cape Girardeau, Mo.), Cincinnati Archbishop Daniel Pilarczyk; Saginaw, Mich., Bishop Kenneth Untener - to name a few more - all of whom, supposedly, mirrored his own progressive image as a “man of the people.”
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…My feeling is that Findinghumility is one of them, and that she would blame the Popes a lot less and pray for them a lot more if she knew how much they are at the mercy of sometimes unscrupulous people with terrible agendas.

My feeling is that Findinghumility is one of them, and that she would blame the Popes a lot less and pray for them a lot more if she knew how much they are at the mercy of sometimes unscrupulous people who will do anything to advance their heterodox agendas. Findinghumility is NOT rejecting the Pope. She, like many of the rest of us, is frustrated with a heterodox Ordinary that (you admit yourself) was foisted on the Pope by an unscrupulous man with an agenda.

to be con., Michael
 
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I’ve not known anyone in the TLM communities (except one SSPX priest who has now become Regularized) who’s rejected the Holy Father and his Authority. But, Plenty are frustrated with Ordinaries and priests who refuse to preach the Gospel or uphold the Faith or to stand with the Pope on the Culture of Life. …
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Lux_et_veritas:
Just remember, that the TLM and TLM communities are fine, but rejecting the current pope in any way is a rejection of the Holy Catholic Church. I hope that is not what I am picking up. Those were horrible abuses you had to tolerate and maybe one of the names above will ring a bell. Where progressiveness ruled, there is the most widespread liturgical abuse and most likely a very difficult time finding an abuse free N.O. liturgy. However, even a liturgy that is illicit is better than a liturgy that is done outside of Communion with Rome. Most abuses fall in the category of illicit, and do not invalidate the Mass. And, there are avenues for reporting abuse directly to the Holy See. One of the problems is that people continue to go to Mass and put it with the abuse or simply leave, and no one is writing to the Vatican. They can’t fix what they don’t know is broke. Give them specifics and time and it will be taken care of. Sometimes it may take lots of letters coming from within a diocese to show the problem.
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…And I do write to the Pope about those Ordinaries and priests and I encourage all those who are frustrated to write the Holy Father as well, but to be courteous and respectful. Remember that Pope Benedict XVI is the Vicar of Christ here on earth.

I’ve also found posting the abuses on the internet can be helpful, esp. if they are posted in enough places the abusers see themselves and their deeds on their own computer screens. I had some success with a liberal parish in a liberal Archdiocese in No. California doing just that. I just have to say that i was very specific about the dates, the times and what exactly happened, and I remembered that,“Man’s wrath worketh not he righteousness of God.”

Tell Findinghumility that she just has to be VERY patient, and please don’t label her a schismatic because she lost her cool. OK?

In Christ, Michael
 
I also like the following elements of the TLM Mass
The Music
Proper dress and women with veils
(I have thought of the idea of passing out veils at St. Josaphat so as to make all the ladies wear them)
The Kneeling for Communion
Ad Orientam
The quiet Canon
The part where the priest blesses himself with the paten
The extremely rich Catholic and Sacrificial prayers
The fiddleback annd gothic vestments
The Confiteor and Prayers at the Foot of the Altar
The solemnity
Last but not least the knowledge that a great majority of the saints of the Catholic Church offered and heard this form of Mass.
…and other personal preferences.
One other thing is that of all the churches I have been involved in I have found that I fit best in the TLM group. I feel that I can get more involved and I feel comfortable with TLM people. I may not agree with everyone but I do certainly fit in. Another thing is that I have found more religious young people in the TLM setting. For most of my life I have always been this deeply religious young person who was into Catholic stuff but I could not easily find young people who where almost like me. I have found these more pious young people at the TLM. One last thing I should mention is that that I used to think that the Latin Mass at Grotto was the closest thing to a TLM and so I paid little attention to the whole indult idea.
 
I’m in my mid 50s, but only converted seven years ago - only because of the TLM. I only attend it, because for me it is the true embodiment of the Catholic faith - a faith I wish I could have embraced so much earlier.
You see when I was ten or eleven, as a narrowly brought up Presbyterian, already throughly indoctrinated into how terrible Catholics were, my curiosity was aroused - it couldn’t be so bad. The public school I went to was right next door to the local Catholic church and I wanted to find out for myself . Sometimes over - or through a hole in the high tin fence between the school and the church grounds I would see wonderful processions of Catholic children (probably Corpus Christi - although I didn’t understand about that then) and other ceremonies from time to time which were so inspiring, solemn and beautiful to a small boy brought up in the barren protestant worship . So I found a way of slipping into the Catholic church to see for myself and was bowled over by the reverence and beauty of the mass. I would have become a Catholic right then if not for the straight out opposition of my family. But I bided my time and a great curiosity about Catholicism remained - albeit dormant until I went to university and I started going to mass (the TLM) and began taking instructions by correspondence. But then suddenly the TLM was all taken away and replaced by something which seemed to me just like the protestant worship that left me so empty. And due to a combination of other factors I regrettably lost my will to convert, only to do so 30 years later, as a long lapsed protestant in the 1990s when I rediscovered the TLM when I was visiting other cities - it was often the SSPX but increasingly the indult TLM that once again rekindled my faith - and the rest is history.
So for me it was the TLM that brought me into the full Catholic faith and it is of course for me the entire faith, not just the mass that is important to me - albeit that I truly see the TLM as the most beautiful and faith inspiring thing this side of heaven. Every time I attend the TLM it carries me away to an ethereal realm. I love the silence, the beauty, the solemnity, the ritual, the vestments, the incense, the music and the catholicity of the TLM. I love the assurance and authority of the Catholic faith, the prayerfulness of the TLM and the traditional practices such as the kneeling at the communion rail to receive, the traditional ceremonies of benediction, the regular exposition of the blessed sacrament, the rosary - where do I stop?
Thanks be to God for the one holy catholic and apostolic Church - without which we cannot be saved - and I sincerely believe the more who are brought to understand the TLM the more souls that will be brought to the full practice and privileges of belonging to the Catholic faith!
 
I was born during Vatican II. If my parents took me to a TLM, I certainly have no recollection of it.

After reading through this thread, I was prompted to call my Diocese and ask where the nearest TLM is being celebrated. This Sunday I will attend my very first TLM at a church in Middletown, NJ. Thanks to everyone for posting their thoughts on this thread.
 
I attend the TLM Indult Mass weekly in my Diocese. I was born pre vatican II but I am a convert.

One might say I like the silence but I call it the reverence that I witness there. The music at a high Mass or Missa Cantata I find more meaningful and sacred than the modern hymns. I like the discipline I witness in the altar servers, every movement exact and meaningful. I like kneeling at the communion rail to receive. I like the humility I often see in the priests and the congregation. I like seeing the families and young children, all dressed appropriately and modestly and behaving in a way that shows respect for our Lord. I like the homilies, though they are often longer, they seem to have a lot more “meat” to them than some I have heard at other Masses. At low Masses, I like the prayers after Mass said by all the congregation prior to leaving. I like the “old” hymns sung before and after Mass. I like the opportunity to go to confession prior to Mass. I like the Asperges prior to high Mass. I like the Benediction often offered after a low Mass.
 
Hi All

Well, my boyfriend and I have only just started attending the TLM and intend to stay there for the time being. I am 25 and he is 28.
The reason? Well we came upon the parish by accident, kind of out of necessity. It was the only near by parish having Mass on the evening of Jan 1st.
Anyway, we were so impressed with the parish. The church itself was such a beautiful building - simple but ornate. The liturgy was beautiful and there were two young alter servers where at others we’ve attended have had none.
Also, I would say that 85% of the congregation were under the age of 30 and over the age of 10. At the last parish we were at the majority were Baby Boomer age. Not that age is really a problem but as a young Catholic I have felt quite isolated most of my life and to find a parish with lots of Catholics my age is a blessing indeed!
We are both very happy with the Novus Ordo Mass when celebrated properly but we just haven’t found a parish we connect with as much as this one.

Cadence
 
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CathMass:
I also like the following elements of the TLM Mass
The Music
Proper dress and women with veils
(I have thought of the idea of passing out veils at St. Josaphat so as to make all the ladies wear them)
The Kneeling for Communion
Ad Orientam
The quiet Canon
The part where the priest blesses himself with the paten
The extremely rich Catholic and Sacrificial prayers
The fiddleback annd gothic vestments
The Confiteor and Prayers at the Foot of the Altar
The solemnity
Last but not least the knowledge that a great majority of the saints of the Catholic Church offered and heard this form of Mass.
…and other personal preferences.
One other thing is that of all the churches I have been involved in I have found that I fit best in the TLM group. I feel that I can get more involved and I feel comfortable with TLM people. I may not agree with everyone but I do certainly fit in. Another thing is that I have found more religious young people in the TLM setting. For most of my life I have always been this deeply religious young person who was into Catholic stuff but I could not easily find young people who where almost like me. I have found these more pious young people at the TLM. One last thing I should mention is that that I used to think that the Latin Mass at Grotto was the closest thing to a TLM and so I paid little attention to the whole indult idea.
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Grotto definitely does a good N.O. I can attest that many parishes I know do both - some on the same weekend. They will be at the morning Mass at St. Josephat, then shift back to Grotto for noon Mass and Benediction. I plan on going this summer to check it out, but Grotto is now my registered parish and I’m there to stay as long as it maintains its orthodoxy and tradition.
 
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Lux_et_veritas:

What Findinghumility is trying to say is that the theologian is not teaching the doctrine of Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist as accpted by the Church since the time of the Apostles…

…I dealt with one of these at USF in the late 1970’s andwith others from time to time. You’ll also see that a lot of the lack of reverence and awe in our Churches is because most of the people aren’t being taught this either. As One protestant preacher put it, “If i really believed that was jesus in that wafer, I would hang on to the alter so tight you couldn’t pry me off with a crowbar!”

And, those terms do not mean what transubstantiation means.
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Yes, I know. But I wondered if they weren’t teaching transubstantiation, what were they teaching or inferring? It was just a question of curiousity.
She stated this was an indult parish - we have to take her at her word. I don’t think she’s trying to pick a fight, but just telling us what these people are saying. In all charity, I think it behooves us to listen.
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I hope it didn’t come across that when I raised the questions. It wasn’t intended too. I didn’t think she was trying to pick a fight at all. But one or two statements sounded as if this was a schismatic Church. I hadn’t caught the word “indult” in the original post findinghumility made at the time I posted.
I happen to live in Cardinal Mahony’s Archdiocese. The subject for the homily in the parish I atteded for the Solemnity of the Immaculate Conception of the Blessed Virgin Mary was “Violence”. It had nothing to do with the Great Mystery of the Immaculate Conception of our Blessed Mother.

Most people have no idea what process Popes use for choosing Bishops, and they have even less knowledge about the paucity of real knowledge Popes have on the various Bishops and how much they have to rely on outside people to make those decisions…

…My feeling is that Findinghumility is one of them, and that she would blame the Popes a lot less and pray for them a lot more if she knew how much they are at the mercy of sometimes unscrupulous people with terrible agendas.

My feeling is that Findinghumility is one of them, and that she would blame the Popes a lot less and pray for them a lot more if she knew how much they are at the mercy of sometimes unscrupulous people who will do anything to advance their heterodox agendas. Findinghumility is NOT rejecting the Pope. She, like many of the rest of us, is frustrated with a heterodox Ordinary that (you admit yourself) was foisted on the Pope by an unscrupulous man with an agenda.

to be con., Michael
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Well, I’m kind of hoping to hear back from findinghumlity to understand the statements made - not to argue, but just to get clarification. It may very well be exactly as you feel it is, and I hope so. :). If not, I hope we can talk about it, even if in another thread so that findinghumility can explore such feelings deeper in light of Church teaching.
 
**As we have two threads currently running on the board inquiring why those who attend a TLM Mass prefer or are inclined to do so, and this one asking why those who prefer or attend an NO Mass prefer to do so, please feel free to contribute to the thread of your choice and state your preference while freely acknowledging the positive role this plays in your liturgical experience of the Church.

Please do remember that the discussion should stay centered on the topic of thread you select. The reasons why one has a preferment or choice should not include the opportunity to critique the choices/preferment of others nor the disparagement of those who have an alternate view.

In other words, “accentuate the positive, eliminate the negative.”
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More about why I attend the Tridentine Mass:

There is usually little to zero liturgical abuse!👍
 
My girlfriend got me hooked on the TLM 😃 . Every Mass transcends time, but there’s something about the TLM that better reminds me of that fact 🙂
 
I am 50+ and was raised with the TLM church and attended Catholic school for 8 years. I was 18 or 19 when the Mass began being said in the vernacular. It was such a gradual change that it didn’t bother me. By the time I was 25, at least in my area, the Masses had become very loose and no two were alike. Unfortunately I’ve been involved with some “off the wall” groups but one day heard about a TLM that was being said every day. I attended a Sunday Mass and immediately after they held Benediction. I started to cry; I felt so at home, so comfortable and so warm I knew that was where I belonged. I agree with many contributors here that the NO Mass would be alright if it were said correctly but, sadly, most parishes have their own ways of celebrating it. I’ve raised nine children so it isn’t that I’m unable to change or go with the flow; I attend the TLM because it’s where I feel I belong.

God Bless You All!
 
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