To all Mormons on this forum

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BJ Colbert:
It usually takes 18 months from groundbreaking to dedication, so watch for it in about one more year.
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I will DEFINITELY keep my eyes and ears open for this. I want to go see all these awful satanic symbols and horrid pictures and such that are in the temples. 😉 (that was a joke for those of you who missed it!)
 
We do know the Inca’s were not Hebrews and did not share Mormon beliefs. Unless human sacrifice is part of Mormon religion? I have yet to find one non-lds archeologist of note who accepts the BOM as a historical document. Also I remember at one parish the local Mormon church used to send the homeless down to us. They would help only tithepaying Mormons. We helped anyone. Once we even assisted a Jehovah’s Witness family.
 
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cestusdei:
Also I remember at one parish the local Mormon church used to send the homeless down to us. They would help only tithepaying Mormons. We helped anyone. Once we even assisted a Jehovah’s Witness family.
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And I’m sure there are some examples of Catholic parishes turning people away as well. One bad apple doesn’t make the entire orchard rotten.
 
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tkdnick:
I will DEFINITELY keep my eyes and ears open for this. I want to go see all these awful satanic symbols and horrid pictures and such that are in the temples. 😉 (that was a joke for those of you who missed it!)
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Don’t be so fast to joke tdknick. I have never been inside the SLC temple, (not being a temple “worthy” mormon) but the outside of it contains Satanic Pentagrams over each window.
 
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boppysbud:
Don’t be so fast to joke tdknick. I have never been inside the SLC temple, (not being a temple “worthy” mormon) but the outside of it contains Satanic Pentagrams over each window.
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I have a hard time believing that. You got proof?
 
tk,
Sure I have turned away some who obviously wanted cash for drugs or drink. But even they were offered food if they wanted it. We don’t discriminate solely on the basis of religion. If someone is turned away it is because they are lying or trying to take advantage of us not because they are not Catholic. Therein lies the difference.
 
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cestusdei:
Sure I have turned away some who obviously wanted cash for drugs or drink. But even they were offered food if they wanted it. We don’t discriminate solely on the basis of religion. If someone is turned away it is because they are lying or trying to take advantage of us not because they are not Catholic. Therein lies the difference.
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I totally understand, and I was not making a judgement call about you or your parish. I was just saying that I am sure there are some parishes that give others a bad rep by acting in the same way you say that LDS ward acted.
 
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cestusdei:
We do know the Inca’s were not Hebrews and did not share Mormon beliefs. Unless human sacrifice is part of Mormon religion? I have yet to find one non-lds archeologist of note who accepts the BOM as a historical document. Also I remember at one parish the local Mormon church used to send the homeless down to us. They would help only tithepaying Mormons. We helped anyone. Once we even assisted a Jehovah’s Witness family.
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Oh dear! I believe you misunderstood me, I clearly said we do not believe the Inca people were Hebrew or even Book of Mormon people as their ancestors arrived 2000 years or more before Christ
and the Nephites arrived only 600 years before Christ and in a different part of the Americas. No, sacrifice is not part of our religion. As I said before the Incas were not related to any part of the Book of Mormon. The Mormon church would never send the homeless churchmembers to another church. Tithe paying is not a prerequsite for help. I was a single mother for 20 years and not active in church(did not pay tithing) I still was able to receive food and help from the church when I needed it. There were many non-members who also received help. As you know the church helps all over the world regardless of membership or tithe paying.
Just as your own Catholic Charities helps all over the world. Many times our Church works with your Charities and the LDS Church donates to Catholic Charities in areas where the Catholic Church can do more good, because of their infrastructure within a certain country. The Catholic Church has awarded their highest humanitarian award to our Prophet Gordon B. Hinckley for the help given to Charities run by the Catholic Church.
Of course you know all of that, having worked with the Catholic church helping the homeless, so sorry to repeat what you already know.
 
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boppysbud:
Don’t be so fast to joke tdknick. I have never been inside the SLC temple, (not being a temple “worthy” mormon) but the outside of it contains Satanic Pentagrams over each window.
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Oooh that was not very nice. Are you a Mormon at all let alone Temple worthy? What are you talking about? What do Satanic Pentagrams look like? Have you studied Satanism to know those things so well that you would recognize them? Or are you joking?

I certainly hope you were joking, and it was not very funny to make fun of what we LDS consider to be the House of The Lord on earth. Over the door of every Temple are the words"Holiness to the Lord" Which are the same words that were on the Tabernacles of Biblical times. I know of no Satanic symbols and would not recognize them if I saw them, as I have never studied Satanism.
 

BJ, I would first of all say that no organization, religion, or institution in the whole world does as much for the poor as the Catholic Church–hospitals, shelters, food, clothing, you name i​

Salvation Army does a lot for folks too, that’s their whole mission.

Boppy is a bigot who hates people like the Mormons or Church of Christ types. He even hates Evangelicals, you can 't call it anything but hate.
 
BJ,
The people who were rejected and sent to us were non-mormons. They stopped first at the mormon church which was closer to the highway. They were asked if they were mormon. If they were not then they were told to go down the street to another church. It wasn’t a matter of the mormon church only having enough resources to care for it’s own, but that they as a policy did not assist non-mormons in need. That is what I was trying to convey.
 
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Lilyofthevalley:

BJ, I would first of all say that no organization, religion, or institution in the whole world does as much for the poor as the Catholic Church–hospitals, shelters, food, clothing, you name i​

Salvation Army does a lot for folks too, that’s their whole mission.

Boppy is a bigot who hates people like the Mormons or Church of Christ types. He even hates Evangelicals, you can 't call it anything but hate.
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I believe you are right and I am sorry for Boppy. I agree that the Catholic Church helps the poor of the world more than any other entity, as well as the Salvation Army, and the LDS church. The three many times work together in conjunction with the red cross as well. That is a very good thing. Thank you for your (name removed by moderator)ut I appreciate it.
BJ
 
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cestusdei:
BJ,
The people who were rejected and sent to us were non-mormons. They stopped first at the mormon church which was closer to the highway. They were asked if they were mormon. If they were not then they were told to go down the street to another church. It wasn’t a matter of the mormon church only having enough resources to care for it’s own, but that they as a policy did not assist non-mormons in need. That is what I was trying to convey.
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I am sorry to have misunderstood you, and sorry you had this experience with the ward in your neighborhood. As in the Catholic church the individuals who are in charge are sometimes not as charitable as they should be, and it is a matter of the individual’s judgement not the church as a whole. The LDS church helps many many people all over the world who are non members. As does the Catholic Church, we all agree on that point.
 

The people who were rejected and sent to us were non-mormons.​

Cestusdei, I know a couple who broke down in Danbury, CT. The Mormons, there, gave them money to have their motor home fixed and were going to take a collection up for them that night, but the couple left before the collection could be taken up.
And, no, this couple certainly is not LDS.
 
To all:

First a satanic pentagram looks like an upside-down five pointed star. Often it has a picture of a goat’s head in it, although the examples on the SLC temple do not.

If you don’t beleive me about the pentagrams I can do a google search and find examples, but so can you.

And furthermore I hate no-one even though I might dissagree with thm strenously. The so called “church of Christ” hates Catholics though. It’s all right there in thier basic “total apostacy/restoration” theology.

For examples of Campbellite hatred toward Catholics just check out the Catholic sections of:

www.bible.ca
 
BTW BJ, I am not a temple reccomend Mormon. You don’t have to be to see the pentagrams, they are on the outside where anyone can see them from the Plaza.
 
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tkdnick:
Those are kinda scary. I wonder what the LDS posters here have to say in response.
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Well I spent an hour or so reviewing boppys’ sites and I don’t see much reason to be scared.

I think the resemblances between mormon symbols and occultic symbols are superficial. I say that from a standpoint more of what the symbols are supposed to repressent than visual similarites. LDS symbols have their own intended meaning, many which can be found in writings of the temple designers such as Brigham Young, Joseph Smith, and Truman Angell. The symbols reflect mormon teachings and not any particular fascination with the occult or Satanism. I remember reading a nice article near the time it first came out called “Exterior Symbolism of the Salt Lake Temple” which can be found by working through several screens from byustudies.byu.edu/index/Category_index.asp?id=56&title=Temple

Not that I expect people to follow that link, but I just wish to convey that a significant amount of thought has gone into the creation of these symbols and it is doubtful to me anything exceptionally evil was intended or questionable traditions were an undue influence.

Much was made about the inverted stars, but the truth of the matter is that mormons were using it before it got popularized as a Satanic symbol by that Levi fellow. And it has a significantly different meaning to us!

The history of symbol usage is a fascinating subject, as is discovering how different groups can share symbolic elements, and yet extract different meanings. There is no need to assign the worst possible interpretation to demonize a particular group, unless that is what was intended.

later,
fool
 
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