To be deep in the bible is to cease to be Catholic

[MariaG]

I just wanted to help out a faily new member who may be hesitant to start a new thread.

The allegation is that once one gets deep into Scripture one would cease to be Catholic.

So go at it. What Scritpture?

God Bless,
Maria

 

[johnshelby]

MariaG:

I just wanted to help out a faily new member who may be hesitant to start a new thread.

The allegation is that once one gets deep into Scripture one would cease to be Catholic.

So go at it. What Scritpture?

God Bless,
Maria

so, you gonna defend his position too?? lol

 

[Northwind]

I’ve never heard such an allegation. Is there a source for it? From my own personal study, the more I dig the more it makes sense to me as a Catholic. Why would one think otherwise?

 

[shannin]

MariaG:

I just wanted to help out a faily new member who may be hesitant to start a new thread.
The allegation is that once one gets deep into Scripture one would cease to be Catholic.
So go at it. What Scritpture?
God Bless,
Maria

Please give an example of how the RC is in conflict with Holy Scripture?

 

[David_Zampino]

MariaG:

I just wanted to help out a faily new member who may be hesitant to start a new thread.

The allegation is that once one gets deep into Scripture one would cease to be Catholic.

So go at it. What Scritpture?

God Bless,
Maria

The allegation seems to be a reversal of the statement by the Ven. John Henry, Cardinal Newman that to be deep in history is to cease to be a Protestant!

 

[LSK]

I do not understand the question. The more I read and study Holy Scripture the more I understand why I am a Catholic Christian.

 

[MariaG]

David Zampino:

The allegation seems to be a reversal of the statement by the Ven. John Henry, Cardinal Newman that to be deep in history is to cease to be a Protestant!

It was. And the allegation sparked much discussion, enough so that it could throw the thread off. I posted this to try to bring any discussion here.

And as I am a Catholic who came to the Church through Scripture alone and not history, I have particular interest in those who say otherwise.

Show me one doctrine of the Catholic Church that contradicts the Bible and I will leave it immediately.

God Bless,
Maria

 

[Orionthehunter]

MariaG:

It was. And the allegation sparked much discussion, enough so that it could throw the thread off. I posted this to try to bring any discussion here.

And as I am a Catholic who came to the Church through Scripture alone and not history, I have particular interest in those who say otherwise.

Show me one doctrine of the Catholic Church that contradicts the Bible and I will leave it immediately.

God Bless,
Maria

First, I want to praise you for seeing a thread getting off track and quickly creating a thread on the new subject. It would help if this were more often done to prevent confusion (i’m guilty of the offense myself).

Second, I love your use of irony via the Cardinal Neumann quote.

Finally, your challenge on one doctrine is an invitation to get the thread subdivided over 100 disparate misconceptions of non-Catholics about the Catholic Church.

 

[arieh0310]

MariaG:

And as I am a Catholic who came to the Church through Scripture alone and not history, I have particular interest in those who say otherwise.

Show me one doctrine of the Catholic Church that contradicts the Bible and I will leave it immediately.

Maybe “‘As the Father has sent me, even so I send you.’ And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, ‘Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained’” (John 20:21–23)–oh wait, that sounds like confession

Or, how about “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you; he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him” (John 6:53–56) woops, that sounds like transubstantiation.

I really don’t get it, I have read every book of the Bible several times and Scripture was key in getting me to explore Catholicism. I had too many unanswered questions with my Protestant theology.

 

[MariaG]

Orionthehunter:

First, I want to praise you for seeing a thread getting off track and quickly creating a thread on the new subject. It would help if this were more often done to prevent confusion (i’m guilty of the offense myself).

Second, I love your use of irony via the Cardinal Neumann quote.

Finally, your challenge on one doctrine is an invitation to get the thread subdivided over 100 disparate misconceptions of non-Catholics about the Catholic Church.

Yeah, That is so true. But I just can’t stand that argument and always leap on this one. But maybe if there is enough persistence by all the Catholics here, we can take each argument, and start a new thread with it.

Won’t work in the end, but like I said, I just can’t stand that argument. That and the man-made doctrine.

God Bless,
Maria

ps.

I wish I could take credit for the thread title but it was a response from a non-catholic to the Newman quote

 

[MariaG]

arieh0310:

Maybe “‘As the Father has sent me, even so I send you.’ And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, ‘Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained’” (John 20:21–23)–oh wait, that sounds like confession

That is most favorite Scripture. I love the sacrament of confession and find it awesome that it was the first thing Christ did after He rose from the Dead!

Or, how about “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you; he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him” (John 6:53–56) woops, that sounds like transubstantiation.

And the Eucharist brought me home to the Catholic Church.

I really don’t get it, I have read every book of the Bible several times and Scripture was key in getting me to explore Catholicism. I had too many unanswered questions with my Protestant theology.

Me too. I am a Catholic who loves to “find it in the Bible”. While I know the history of the Bible and Christianity, I still find my Evangelical roots to be very strong and haven’t gotten over the “show it to me in the Bible” syndrome. Thankfully, you don’t ever have to “get over it” because the Catholic Church is so Biblical!

God Bless,
Maria

 

[awalt]

There are many, many examples where reading the scripture converts people to Catholicism. If someone had a specific example, great, otherwise this just sounds like someone inciting an argument to me.

 

[arieh0310]

MariaG:

Me too. I am a Catholic who loves to “find it in the Bible”. While I know the history of the Bible and Christianity, I still find my Evangelical roots to be very strong and haven’t gotten over the “show it to me in the Bible” syndrome. Thankfully, you don’t ever have to “get over it” because the Catholic Church is so Biblical!

Amen sister!! There is no book on earth more Catholic than the Bible, Catholics shouldn’t be afraid of it. That was quite a shock to my Protestant sensibilities when I finally discovered that.

 

[Donna_Mc]

To me the opposite is true. The deeper you get into the Bible,
the more you see the the Catholic church is the authentic one
started by Jesus, you see the validity of the sacraments, the
Mass, and then some.

 

[the_phoenix]

Father Charles is a distant relative of mine and a retired missionary priest who worked in Ghana, Africa for 50 years, with the precise goal of bringing as many souls into the Catholic Church as possible.

Once when I saw him on a visit home, he looked at me very seriously and said, “Read the Bible.”

Now Father Charles knows that I absolutely LOVE reading … books on philosophy and theology for example. Yet he suggested no other form of spiritual reading … only the Bible, and he placed great emphasis on it.

~~ the phoenix

 

[Reformed_Rob]

Northwind:

I’ve never heard such an allegation. Is there a source for it? From my own personal study, the more I dig the more it makes sense to me as a Catholic. Why would one think otherwise?

I’m not going to bring up any topics to discuss. However, in relation to the earlier part of this thread, it seems that in addition to being a spin-off of Card. Newman’s statement, such an attitude is that of many former-Catholics who left the Catholic faith for “who knows what” and claim that they have all the Bible to support them for doing that.

For better or for worse, that was what they felt compelled to do.

 

[cheddarsox]

In response to the original post…reading the Bible is what first got me seriously questioning the Catholic faith, and eventually led me out of it.

I guess it had different affects of different folks.

cheddar

 

[SeekerJen]

MariaG:

The allegation is that once one gets deep into Scripture one would cease to be Catholic.

So go at it. What Scritpture?

God Bless,
Maria

WRT this allegation, I have mostly found the reverse to be true. What scripture? The whole thing. It is the history of our God and our people, and of our salvation. The Old Testament is incomplete on its own, and the New Testament can’t be fully understood on its own. Both are necessary.

 

[MariaG]

cheddarsox:

In response to the original post…reading the Bible is what first got me seriously questioning the Catholic faith, and eventually led me out of it.

I guess it had different affects of different folks.

cheddar

What exactly in the Bible contradicts Catholic teachings?

Post here or post in a new thread, but I really would love to explore even one part of the the Bible that would lead someone out of the Catholic Church.

I will say it again, if there is even one doctrine of the Catholic Church that contradicts the Bible, I will leave it immediately.

God Bless,
Maria

 

[Trick]

cheddarsox:

In response to the original post…reading the Bible is what first got me seriously questioning the Catholic faith, and eventually led me out of it.

I guess it had different affects of different folks.

cheddar

Yes it did have a very strange effect on you, that is unfortunate.

Perhaps furtther study and prayer may eventualy lead you back to the Church.

Trick