“not recommended” as in “without the recommendation”. Yes, even in the absence of Mary’s recommendation one can still get to Jesus, as when for example one is recommended by a saint. St. Peter can make such recommendation; St. Paul and all the saints can also intercede for us to Jesus.
It comes up if someone speaks of the rosary as being less than the most powerful prayer ever set up - also if someone speaks out about not believing in Marian apparitions (approved or not).
I think if you make it to Heaven and you go up to Jesus and say, “Jesus, I love you but I’m just not sure about your Mother,” He will laugh, take your arm and say, “You just don’t know her - come on, let me introduce you to her.”
Where exactly does the HMC teach that Mary has any say at all in such things and can have an ‘objection’ that would affect Jesus’ actions??
Because Jesus is divine, and our redeemer, of course he accepts those who come only to Him.
Good, let’s hear from you about YOUR OWN understanding of Marian Theology…not that of "some people/ those people/ others, etc. whom you so often refer to.
I do not believe the error(s) I have mentioned - so what do I have to prove to you??
You have nothing to “prove to me”. Perhaps I’m mistaken in my belief that we are here to discuss our faith?? Maybe, you have another reason for posting & reading these forums.
Maybe if you push everyone else here who posts a response to something in the thread to do the same.
Why put the word “only” there? “Come to Him”, not “come only to Him”. For how can you set Jesus apart from the rest of His members? If we do, it would be like separating the head from the body. If we love the head, we should also love the body, including the toes, the fingers, and every part of that body.
Are you saying that the woman ignored Mary there? In that passage, was Mary there? And watch out what you are saying. The woman forced Himself on Jesus? Does anyone who say, “Have mercy on me” appear forcing herself upon the person she is addressing? If to you she appears forcing herself, then I don’t know what is meant by “begging”.
“Those who neglect our Lady will parish in their sins and be damned.”
Mary need not say expressly her objection. For even before she could say it, Jesus would have already known what is in her heart. While hanging on the cross, Jesus said, "Woman, behold, thy son." Then to the disciple, “Behold, thy mother.” And from that hour the disciple took her into his home." It was in that dying moment that Jesus gave Mary, His own Mother, to be Mother also of all his disciples.
Post #41 should have answered the question.
I guess I am missing your point. My point was that it is heresy to say that the ONLY entrance to Jesus is Mary, and that a person cannot come to Jesus unless they first come through Mary. Anyone who calls upon the name of the Lord will be saved.
Mary and although I probably don’t give her the praise you think I should I am pleased to say that I have a spiritual family Jesus my Father Mary my mother and all the saints in heaven (the spirit) and all you saints on earth as my family. And I have the filling of the spirit of God in His Holy Spirit within me, and all to the glory of the Father.
ha ha haPlease show where the HMC teaches that. TIA
Well that is St. Bonaventure’s view while on Earth BUT where has the HMC adopted this as officially part of the faith?
Regardless of who has said that the bible tells us of only one sin that is without forgiveness. I would find out before I wrote anything like what you have, even if it was a saint who in their humanness wrote it. The catholic bible tells us that there is only ONE way to the Father and that is through Jesus.
