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Hi Cinette,

Would you care to share the salient points that Scott Hahn makes about the role of Mary?

God bless you, Craig
“What made the ark holy was that it contained the covenant. Inside that golden box were the ten commandments, the Word of God inscribed by the finger of God; the manna, the miracle bread sent by God to feed His people in the wilderness; and the priestly rod of Aaron.

Whatever made the ark holy made Mary even holier. If the first ark contained the Word of God in stone, Mary’s body contained the Word of God enfleshed. If the first ark contained miraculous bread from heaven, Mary’s body contained the very Bread of Life that conquers death forever. If the first ark contained the rod of the long ago ancestral priest, Mary’s body contained the divine person of the eternal priest, Jesus Christ.

What John saw in the heavenly temple was far greater than the ark of the old covenant – the ark that had radiated the glory cloud before the menorah, at the heart of the temple of ancient Israel. John saw the ark of the new covenant, the vessel chosen to ber God’s covenant into the world once and for all.

……………………………………….

The Queen Mother

………………In the ancient Near East, most nations were monarchies ruled by a kind. In addition, most cultures practiced polygamy; so a given king often had several wives. This posed problems. First, whom should the people honor as queen? But more important, whose son should receive the right of succession to the throng?

In most Near Eastern cultures, these twin problems were resolved by a single custom. The woman ordinarily honored as queen was not the wife of the king, but the mother of the king. There was an element of justice to the practice, since it was often the persuasive (or seductive) power of the mother that won the throne for her son. The custom also served as a stabilizing factor in national cultures. As wife of the former king and mother to the present king, the queen mother embodied the continuity of dynastic succession.

Craig – the whole book is “salient”. I also do not have my computer (it is in Cape Town being repaired!!) So I am using my husband’s and he is wanting to kick me off. I am just going to give you some of the names of chapter and sub-headings:

Every Mother’s son: Confessions of a Marian Prodigal
  • Spiritual Adolescents
  • Mary, Mary, Quite Contrary
  • From here to Maternity
    The Loving Logic of Mary’s Maternity
  • Let’s get Metaphysical
  • What’s-His- Name?
  • Learning to Type
  • Family affairs
  • The Most Functional Family
    Mary’s Motherhood is Eden Revisited
  • Cutting the Unbilical Cord
  • I beg to Defer
  • Maternity Warred
  • Justin Time
  • Out of Africa
    Venerators of the Lost Ark:Israel and the Bearer of the New Covenant
  • Ark the Herald angels Sins
  • Mary Had a Little Man
  • Mary, Mary Reliquary?
    Power Behind the Throne: The Queen Mother and the Davidic King
    (“Even in Jesus’ day, the Pharisees did not hesitate to identify the Messiah as
    “the Son of David” (Mt 22:42)
  • I Dream of Genealogy
    “By placing women – pagan women, and pagan women of shady reputation – among Jesus’ ancestors, Matthews effectively undercuts the arguments of anyone who would question Jesus’ messianic credentials.”
  • The Queen Mother
  • The Key of David
    From Typing to Teaching : the Mother is the Message
  • Keeping the Faith
  • God’s Plan of Salvation: Immaculately Conceived
  • Fetal Attraction
  • Once a virgin, Always a Virgin
  • A Gratuitous Assumption
  • Idol Talk?
    What About the Children :
  • The Queen Mother and the Royal family
  • Royal Flesh
  • Labour Paeans
  • The Mediatrix Is the Message
  • Abba, Not Allah
And so on………….

This little book is precious indeed!

🙂
 
I edit every single one of my posts after submitting it. It’s a terrible habit for me to wait till then :o.
How dumb am I?!!! I never even realized that I could actually edit the post after it has been submitted. Duhh! I actually just noticed the edit button just now.😃

All these months and cringing all the time after I’ve read what I’ve written.:o
 
For CRAIG KENNEDY

Sorry about my posting. My husband harassed me!! “Come on I need the computer” So I could not continue editing and fixing the text, hence the tiny writing etc. I would copy into a word document and enlarge the font to make reading easier.

Men are so impatient!!

:crying: :extrahappy:
 
“What made the ark holy was that it contained the covenant. Inside that golden box were the ten commandments, the Word of God inscribed by the finger of God; the manna, the miracle bread sent by God to feed His people in the wilderness; and the priestly rod of Aaron.

Whatever made the ark holy made Mary even holier. If the first ark contained the Word of God in stone, Mary’s body contained the Word of God enfleshed. If the first ark contained miraculous bread from heaven, Mary’s body contained the very Bread of Life that conquers death forever. If the first ark contained the rod of the long ago ancestral priest, Mary’s body contained the divine person of the eternal priest, Jesus Christ.

What John saw in the heavenly temple was far greater than the ark of the old covenant – the ark that had radiated the glory cloud before the menorah, at the heart of the temple of ancient Israel. John saw the ark of the new covenant, the vessel chosen to ber God’s covenant into the world once and for all.

……………………………………….

The Queen Mother

………………In the ancient Near East, most nations were monarchies ruled by a kind. In addition, most cultures practiced polygamy; so a given king often had several wives. This posed problems. First, whom should the people honor as queen? But more important, whose son should receive the right of succession to the throng?

In most Near Eastern cultures, these twin problems were resolved by a single custom. The woman ordinarily honored as queen was not the wife of the king, but the mother of the king. There was an element of justice to the practice, since it was often the persuasive (or seductive) power of the mother that won the throne for her son. The custom also served as a stabilizing factor in national cultures. As wife of the former king and mother to the present king, the queen mother embodied the continuity of dynastic succession.

Craig – the whole book is “salient”. I also do not have my computer (it is in Cape Town being repaired!!) So I am using my husband’s and he is wanting to kick me off. I am just going to give you some of the names of chapter and sub-headings:

Every Mother’s son: Confessions of a Marian Prodigal
  • Spiritual Adolescents
  • Mary, Mary, Quite Contrary
  • From here to Maternity
    The Loving Logic of Mary’s Maternity
  • Let’s get Metaphysical
  • What’s-His- Name?
  • Learning to Type
  • Family affairs
  • The Most Functional Family
    Mary’s Motherhood is Eden Revisited
  • Cutting the Unbilical Cord
  • I beg to Defer
  • Maternity Warred
  • Justin Time
  • Out of Africa
    Venerators of the Lost Ark:Israel and the Bearer of the New Covenant
  • Ark the Herald angels Sins
  • Mary Had a Little Man
  • Mary, Mary Reliquary?
    Power Behind the Throne: The Queen Mother and the Davidic King
    (“Even in Jesus’ day, the Pharisees did not hesitate to identify the Messiah as
    “the Son of David” (Mt 22:42)
  • I Dream of Genealogy
    “By placing women – pagan women, and pagan women of shady reputation – among Jesus’ ancestors, Matthews effectively undercuts the arguments of anyone who would question Jesus’ messianic credentials.”
  • The Queen Mother
  • The Key of David
    From Typing to Teaching : the Mother is the Message
  • Keeping the Faith
  • God’s Plan of Salvation: Immaculately Conceived
  • Fetal Attraction
  • Once a virgin, Always a Virgin
  • A Gratuitous Assumption
  • Idol Talk?
    What About the Children :
  • The Queen Mother and the Royal family
  • Royal Flesh
  • Labour Paeans
  • The Mediatrix Is the Message
  • Abba, Not Allah
And so on………….

This little book is precious indeed!

🙂
Cinette,
you rock!!!:cla:aok: :yeah_me: :flowers:
 
How dumb am I?!!! I never even realized that I could actually edit the post after it has been submitted. Duhh! I actually just noticed the edit button just now.😃

All these months and cringing all the time after I’ve read what I’ve written.:o
You’d have to move fast, though. The editing option is only available for the 20 minutes immediately after you submit your post.
 
What is the biblical basis of absolution from the Catholic point of view? Is this truly a New Testament idea and concept, or do Catholics draw heavily here from Old Testament principles?
New Testament: John 20:21-23. Christ is speaking. This is where He ordains the first bishops, the apostles, this is the first ordination rite.

“He said therefore to them again: Peace be to you. As the Father hath sent me, I also send you.When he had said this, he breathed on them; and he said to them: Receive ye the Holy Ghost. Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained”

We believe this authority has been passed on from these first bishops down to the line through every other bishop and from those bishops to the priests through the laying on of hands and (I believe) breathing upon them. Ultimately the priest draws the authority to absolve (forgive in Christ’s name, notice the priest does not say “I forgive you” because Christ is the one forgiving you) from Christ as seen here in John.
 
Talking about matters of Faith.

Protestants often ask why they are not allowed to receive the Eucharist in the Catholic Church. They are offended by this.

Some people (Catholics) think that the Bishops who speak up that pro-choice Catholics should abstain from receiving Holy Communion are “over the top”.

I have been contemplating this and the passage in Corinthians came up:

*1 Cor 10:16
”The cup of blessing that we bless, is it not a sharing in the blood of Christ? The bread that we break, is it not a sharing in the body of Christ?”

1 Cor 11:27-29
“Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be answerable for the body and blood of the Lord. 28Examine yourselves, and only then eat the bread and drink of the cup. 29For all who eat and drink without discerning the body, eat and drink judgment against themselves.”
*

If Holy Communion (the Eucharist) is only symbolic, as Protestants believe, then why would we be eating and drinking judgment against ourselves?

I am thinking of this particularly as the USA is coming close to the elections. How can anyone “examine their conscience” and think it OK to vote for a pro-choice candidate?🤷 :hmmm: :gopray2: :signofcross: :highprayer:
 
If two Protestant Christians are married in a Baptist Church, does the Catholic Church recognise their marriage as a Sacrament?
Why or why not?

What is the status of their marriage in the eyes of the Catholic Church?

May God bless you, Craig
Just another thing about Mary which is purely my insight so not sure how others would view this.

I was meditating on the Wedding of Cana one day and then it hit me.

Going over the passage we have Mary seeing that they ran out of wine, she says to Jesus “they have no wine” and Jesus says” Woman what is it to do with me. My hour has not yet come”. And the line following simply has Mary telling the servants to “Do what He tells you”.

And I thought this is exactly how Mary mothers us.
Half the time we don’t even ask. She sees our needs and interecedes for us to Jesus. Whether we believe in and pray to her does not change the love and tenderness with which she mothers us.

But more than that,look at her influence: it was not Jesus’s time and he says so. But instead of the next scene showing them haggling over the finer points of whether he should or he shouldn’t do anything, Mary simply says “Do whatever He tells you”. She knew Jesus would accede to her request.

Through Mary’s intercession, Jesus performs a miracle “outside of his time”. This to me speaks of the efficacy of her intercession.

A convert (I think it was Bob Sungenis but I am not sure) wrote: Mary’is role is unique as the one who stands between the testaments. And I thought what a wonderful imagery. Our Blessed Mother as the one between the old and the new covenant and being the ark of the new covenant herself.
 
The topic of predestination came up on another thread.

Below are my posts on this topic

http://forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=4285962&postcount=941

The underlined items on post 941 are links to the articles I based my post on.

http://forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=4285972&postcount=942

http://forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=4290145&postcount=986

Saint Augustin and St Thomas Aquinas wrote about Predestination.

In summary however, the Catholic view of predestination is based on God’s infallible foreknowledge because He is in internity and so knows how we will play out our lives. This makes more sense in my lengthier posts in the above link.
A great post, Benedictus2. I have followed through with the links you have provided.

I agree whole-heartedly with the Catholic view of predestination, being based on God’s infallible foreknowledge.

By the way, can you summarise for me Saint Thomas Aquinas’ view of Predestination and how that differs with the Molinist view?

Cheers, In Christ Craig
 
“What made the ark holy was that it contained the covenant. Inside that golden box were the ten commandments, the Word of God inscribed by the finger of God; the manna, the miracle bread sent by God to feed His people in the wilderness; and the priestly rod of Aaron.

Whatever made the ark holy made Mary even holier. If the first ark contained the Word of God in stone, Mary’s body contained the Word of God enfleshed. If the first ark contained miraculous bread from heaven, Mary’s body contained the very Bread of Life that conquers death forever. If the first ark contained the rod of the long ago ancestral priest, Mary’s body contained the divine person of the eternal priest, Jesus Christ.

What John saw in the heavenly temple was far greater than the ark of the old covenant – the ark that had radiated the glory cloud before the menorah, at the heart of the temple of ancient Israel. John saw the ark of the new covenant, the vessel chosen to ber God’s covenant into the world once and for all.

……………………………………….

The Queen Mother

………………In the ancient Near East, most nations were monarchies ruled by a kind. In addition, most cultures practiced polygamy; so a given king often had several wives. This posed problems. First, whom should the people honor as queen? But more important, whose son should receive the right of succession to the throng?

In most Near Eastern cultures, these twin problems were resolved by a single custom. The woman ordinarily honored as queen was not the wife of the king, but the mother of the king. There was an element of justice to the practice, since it was often the persuasive (or seductive) power of the mother that won the throne for her son. The custom also served as a stabilizing factor in national cultures. As wife of the former king and mother to the present king, the queen mother embodied the continuity of dynastic succession.

Craig – the whole book is “salient”. I also do not have my computer (it is in Cape Town being repaired!!) So I am using my husband’s and he is wanting to kick me off. I am just going to give you some of the names of chapter and sub-headings:

Every Mother’s son: Confessions of a Marian Prodigal
  • Spiritual Adolescents
  • Mary, Mary, Quite Contrary
  • From here to Maternity
    The Loving Logic of Mary’s Maternity
  • Let’s get Metaphysical
  • What’s-His- Name?
  • Learning to Type
  • Family affairs
  • The Most Functional Family
    Mary’s Motherhood is Eden Revisited
  • Cutting the Unbilical Cord
  • I beg to Defer
  • Maternity Warred
  • Justin Time
  • Out of Africa
    Venerators of the Lost Ark:Israel and the Bearer of the New Covenant
  • Ark the Herald angels Sins
  • Mary Had a Little Man
  • Mary, Mary Reliquary?
    Power Behind the Throne: The Queen Mother and the Davidic King
    (“Even in Jesus’ day, the Pharisees did not hesitate to identify the Messiah as
    “the Son of David” (Mt 22:42)
  • I Dream of Genealogy
    “By placing women – pagan women, and pagan women of shady reputation – among Jesus’ ancestors, Matthews effectively undercuts the arguments of anyone who would question Jesus’ messianic credentials.”
  • The Queen Mother
  • The Key of David
    From Typing to Teaching : the Mother is the Message
  • Keeping the Faith
  • God’s Plan of Salvation: Immaculately Conceived
  • Fetal Attraction
  • Once a virgin, Always a Virgin
  • A Gratuitous Assumption
  • Idol Talk?
    What About the Children :
  • The Queen Mother and the Royal family
  • Royal Flesh
  • Labour Paeans
  • The Mediatrix Is the Message
  • Abba, Not Allah
And so on………….

This little book is precious indeed!

🙂
Thanks Cinette,

I appreciate the time and effort you have put in here.

The overview has helped me to identify key words and concepts, while exploring more on this theme.

May God bless you, In Christ Craig
 
For CRAIG KENNEDY

Sorry about my posting. My husband harassed me!! “Come on I need the computer” So I could not continue editing and fixing the text, hence the tiny writing etc. I would copy into a word document and enlarge the font to make reading easier.

Men are so impatient!!

:crying: :extrahappy:
Hi Cinette,

No problem, at all!

I thought you made a great job. Thanks!

In Christ, Craig
 
New Testament: John 20:21-23. Christ is speaking. This is where He ordains the first bishops, the apostles, this is the first ordination rite.

“He said therefore to them again: Peace be to you. As the Father hath sent me, I also send you.When he had said this, he breathed on them; and he said to them: Receive ye the Holy Ghost. Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained”

We believe this authority has been passed on from these first bishops down to the line through every other bishop and from those bishops to the priests through the laying on of hands and (I believe) breathing upon them. Ultimately the priest draws the authority to absolve (forgive in Christ’s name, notice the priest does not say “I forgive you” because Christ is the one forgiving you) from Christ as seen here in John.
Hi Rawb,

Thanks for your post.

I say this respectfully, but I struggle with this interpretation. Where in this biblical text is there mention of Bishops?

I’m sorry, but I do not even see this implied. Do you want to comment further?

In Christ, Craig
 
Hi Rawb,

Thanks for your post.

I say this respectfully, but I struggle with this interpretation. Where in this biblical text is there mention of Bishops?

I’m sorry, but I do not even see this implied. Do you want to comment further?

In Christ, Craig
Hi Craig,

Philippians
Chapter 1: 1-6
1

Paul and Timothy, slaves of Christ Jesus,
to all the holy ones in Christ Jesus who are in Philippi,
with the bishops and deacons:
grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

I give thanks to my God at every remembrance of you,
praying always with joy in my every prayer for all of you,
because of your partnership for the Gospel
from the first day until now.
I am confident of this,
that the one who began a good work in you
will continue to complete it
until the day of Christ Jesus.

also;

"This saying is trustworthy: 2 whoever aspires to the office of bishop desires a noble task. 2 Therefore, a bishop must be irreproachable, married only once, temperate, self-controlled, decent, hospitable, able to teach, 3
not a drunkard, not aggressive, but gentle, not contentious, not a lover of money. 4 He must manage his own household well, keeping his children under control with perfect dignity; " (Tim. CH: 3)

This is a couple places but there are some others. One just happened to be in the reading I did this morning.
 
Thanks for your post.
I say this respectfully, but I struggle with this interpretation. Where in this biblical text is there mention of Bishops?
I’m sorry, but I do not even see this implied. Do you want to comment further?
In Christ, Craig
No problem. Bishop comes from the Greek word “Episkopos” (the Episcopalians take their name from this word, in reference to them also having a heirarchy that incorporates bishops). The Episkopos was distinct from the Presbyteros (from which comes our word ‘priest’ and the Presbyterian’s name) and the Greek ‘diakonos’ which is, of course, Deacon in English. There is no Deaconian Church as far as I know 😛 .

Anyway, twb1621 did an excellent job of pointing out a few areas in Sacred Scripture where the word Bishop can be found, (thanks twb1621!) but left out one verse that I think is very important.

“And the things which thou hast heard of me by many witnesses, the same commend to faithful men, who shall be fit to teach others also.” 2 Timothy 2:2

This shows that Paul (who himself was not considered a true minister of Christ until he had hands laid upon him by someone already ordained by Christ, St. Peter if I recall correctly) is telling St. Timothy to teach other men, and then set those men up to teach others as well. So we have several generations of Apostolic Succession: St. Peter - St. Paul - St. Timothy - The men St. Timothy ordains - the men ordained by the men ordained by St. Timothy.

This site has several excellent scripture references to Apostolic Sucession, the office of Bishop (St. Paul refers to his position as ‘office’ several times) and the requirements for the Bishop:

scripturecatholic.com/apostolic_succession.html
 
Hi Craig,

Philippians
Chapter 1: 1-6
1

Paul and Timothy, slaves of Christ Jesus,
to all the holy ones in Christ Jesus who are in Philippi,
with the bishops and deacons:
grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

I give thanks to my God at every remembrance of you,
praying always with joy in my every prayer for all of you,
because of your partnership for the Gospel
from the first day until now.
I am confident of this,
that the one who began a good work in you
will continue to complete it
until the day of Christ Jesus.

also;

"This saying is trustworthy: 2 whoever aspires to the office of bishop desires a noble task. 2 Therefore, a bishop must be irreproachable, married only once, temperate, self-controlled, decent, hospitable, able to teach, 3
not a drunkard, not aggressive, but gentle, not contentious, not a lover of money. 4 He must manage his own household well, keeping his children under control with perfect dignity; " (Tim. CH: 3)

This is a couple places but there are some others. One just happened to be in the reading I did this morning.
Hi Tom,

I appreciate your comments.

However, I would ask is there really a connection between Philippians 1:1-6 and John 20:21-23. I, for one, do not think so.

Also, is it not possible that the word Bishop as it appears in Philippians 1 :1-6 and John 20:21-23 simply conveys the meaning of ‘OVERSEER’. This is the view that I personally think does better justice to the text.

I am not here, you will understand, to challenge - in any way - the faith of Catholics. I am only here to learn about what Catholics believe in a mature and informed way. I respect Catholics as you know. There are large amounts of Catholic dogma that I am blessed by. However, there are some differences, too. This is one such difference that sets up a ROAD BLOCK and prevents me getting past a certain point in exploring Catholic teaching. Do you understand?

To be perfectly frank, I fail to see how John 20:21-23 is advanced by Catholics as a substantial basis for the MAGISTERIUM.

I look forward to your comments.

May God bless you, In Christ Craig
 
No problem. Bishop comes from the Greek word “Episkopos” (the Episcopalians take their name from this word, in reference to them also having a heirarchy that incorporates bishops). The Episkopos was distinct from the Presbyteros (from which comes our word ‘priest’ and the Presbyterian’s name) and the Greek ‘diakonos’ which is, of course, Deacon in English. There is no Deaconian Church as far as I know 😛 .

Anyway, twb1621 did an excellent job of pointing out a few areas in Sacred Scripture where the word Bishop can be found, (thanks twb1621!) but left out one verse that I think is very important.

“And the things which thou hast heard of me by many witnesses, the same commend to faithful men, who shall be fit to teach others also.” 2 Timothy 2:2

This shows that Paul (who himself was not considered a true minister of Christ until he had hands laid upon him by someone already ordained by Christ, St. Peter if I recall correctly) is telling St. Timothy to teach other men, and then set those men up to teach others as well. So we have several generations of Apostolic Succession: St. Peter - St. Paul - St. Timothy - The men St. Timothy ordains - the men ordained by the men ordained by St. Timothy.

This site has several excellent scripture references to Apostolic Sucession, the office of Bishop (St. Paul refers to his position as ‘office’ several times) and the requirements for the Bishop:

scripturecatholic.com/apostolic_succession.html
Thanks Rawb,

I will follow through and read this link you have provided.

God bless, In Christ Craig
 
As Catholics ‘live by faith’ you often hear them refer to the EXPOSITION and BENEDICTION, in connection with the Blessed Sacrament.

What do these terms refer to? In what context do they refer to? Do these concepts apply to every Mass? How often are these practises carried out? What form do they take?

Although, out of sheer honesty, I admit there are some aspects of Catholic teaching that I struggle with, I would also acknowledge that I am learning heaps here by asking these questions. My faith is being strengthened and my appreciation for Catholics who are true to their faith is being deepened.

God bless you, In Christ Craig
 
FOR BENEDICTUS2,

You graciously gave the following link, to explain further some Catholic teachings:

thecatholicfaith.com/Teachings/predestination.htm

Well, I for one, followed through with the link and, although, I do not find myself in complete agreement with every Catholic teaching put forth on this web-site, the overall quality is excellent.

Two such teachings that I can subscribe to without equivocation or evasion, are the:
  1. Catholic teaching on Predestination
  2. Catholic teaching on Hell.
I am a conservative Christian who believes in the inerrancy of the scriptures, and the presentation of the truth on the two above-named issues satisfies me completely.

Thank you again for this link. This type of information is aiding my growth in knowledge and grace. It is also testimony to the large amount of common ground between Catholics and Protestants.

God bless you, In Christ Craig
 
A great post, Benedictus2. I have followed through with the links you have provided.

I agree whole-heartedly with the Catholic view of predestination, being based on God’s infallible foreknowledge.

By the way, can you summarise for me Saint Thomas Aquinas’ view of Predestination and how that differs with the Molinist view?

Cheers, In Christ Craig
Just to let you know I have not forgotten about this, I will try to reply later ( this weekend?). Am caught up with work at the moment (making up time for the week long leave I took last week:) )

God Bless.
 
Hi Rawb,

Thanks for your post.

I say this respectfully, but I struggle with this interpretation. Where in this biblical text is there mention of Bishops?

I’m sorry, but I do not even see this implied. Do you want to comment further?

In Christ, Craig
The text says that the eleven disciples were present. Well, ten I guess I should say, as Thomas was absent at this point. But the point is that none other than the original apostles were present.

Then, in Acts 1:20 (KJV), we read Peter say of Judas Iscariot, “His bishopric let another take.”

The 12 disciples, therefore, were bishops. No one other than these is referred to as present in this encounter with Jesus. This also is where He sends into them the Holy Spirit, gives them direct authority to forgive sins on His behalf, and breathes on them, which is directly the same word choice for infallibility that is used in the passage in Timothy that says all Scripture is “God-breathed,” word choice that you and I agreed means infallibility in that verse.

No one but these ten are reported as being present in this particular meeting with Jesus. In an Epistle (I think 2 Corinthians?), Paul says that Jesus later appeared to hundreds of his followers together. However, in this scene, when He imparts the Holy Spirit and breathes on His disciples, He only appeared to the bishops. It was a special, sacred authority He imparted to them and their successors (as Acts 1 proves, they had a Biblical practice of appointing successors in authority).

There are a lot more passages than this that refer to the Magesterium and its supernatural authority. This is one. I still intend to get you the others later.
 
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