To Protestants--do you ever pray the Rosary?

[whatevergirl]

I understand what you are saying. If you read my first post I said that the prayer is a beautiful prayer and I have nothing against anyone praying the Rosary.
I understand that it is your faith. So why ask the question to Protestants knowing it is not in their faith then when they give a answer the attacks start.

I haven’t read through the entire thread…I apologize if you have been attacked in any way during this thread. I was just curious as to if non Catholics, namely other Christians, ever pray the Rosary.

 

[rev_kevin]

Well I guess all I would suggest is this. Stop, take a breath. Go back to what you posted originally.

You said you used to, until you ran across Matthew 6:7 did you not? Why did that stop you from praying the rosary? And why are you questioning “didn’t God hear you the first time” in this very post? I hope you can understand how from my keyboard, you’re coming across at the very least as extrodinarly conflicted. How from my keybord, it might appear as though you read a verse in the bible, then said “wow! Jesus said don’t do that! I better stop”. Obviously I have no way of knowing whether or not this is really the case, but all I can say is that this is the appearance when one says “I used to, until I read vs. such and such…”. It’s a connection that is just so terribly natural, it’s really quite impossible to ignore. If it’s the incorrect connection, then firstly I appologize, and secondly I would ask if you would be kind enough to clarify your reasoning then, why you stopped praying the Rosary. Because as I said, your original statement that Matthew 6:7 is just too suggestive that you did so based upon a faulty interpetation of the verse.

More over, at least as a Catholic. I beleive that all the teachings of Christ are fully applicable to how we approch life, and how we worship daily. This includes proper prayer form, you are right in so far as Matthew 6 does include prayer instruction which is applicable to Christians today. These instructions do provide a framework for proper, and improper prayer.

Yes correct. But I never really studied the Bible or read the Bible. Also I am no longer a Catholic so I don’t practice in the Catholic ways.
I have a different belief and the Rosary is not part of that.
You only need to say a prayer once and not over and over again. God is not ignorant or hard of hearing and don’t need to hear the same thing repeated 50 times for him to hear you. As a non-Catholic do I have the right to the Holy Euchrist? If not then I have no right of anything in the Catholic religion including praying the Rosary. I never said that the prayer Hail Mary was not a proper prayer. Its a beautiful prayer but don’t need to be repeated 50 times in a row.

 

[rev_kevin]

I haven’t read through the entire thread…I apologize if you have been attacked in any way during this thread. I was just curious as to if non Catholics, namely other Christians, ever pray the Rosary.

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You have not attacked. Thank you for that. I just stated one reason I don’t pray the Rosary is because of Matthew 6:7 not to babble on and not to repeat the same thing over and over. I also said if you want to pray the Rosary I have nothing against it. Its not part of my religion.

 

[crazzeto]

Yes correct. But I never really studied the Bible or read the Bible. Also I am no longer a Catholic so I don’t practice in the Catholic ways.
I have a different belief and the Rosary is not part of that.
You only need to say a prayer once and not over and over again. God is not ignorant or hard of hearing and don’t need to hear the same thing repeated 50 times for him to hear you. As a non-Catholic do I have the right to the Holy Euchrist? If not then I have no right of anything in the Catholic religion including praying the Rosary. I never said that the prayer Hail Mary was not a proper prayer. Its a beautiful prayer but don’t need to be repeated 50 times in a row.

Ok, well then could you please address our collective thoughts on this passage? I beleive the point we’re driving at, is that the Rosary quite simply does not offend the cirteria for prayer which our Lord gave us.

 

[rev_kevin]

Ok, well then could you please address our collective thoughts on this passage? I beleive the point we’re driving at, is that the Rosary quite simply does not offend the cirteria for prayer which our Lord gave us.

The prayer itself does not offend the cirteria for prayer which our Lord gave us. To repeat it over and over again in a row is not for me to judge whic I have not done here in this thread. I just don’t see the need to repeat.

 

[crazzeto]

The prayer itself does not offend the cirteria for prayer which our Lord gave us. To repeat it over and over again in a row is not for me to judge whic I have not done here in this thread. I just don’t see the need to repeat.

The rosary is it’s self a prayer though, made up of component parts. So why you say the prayer it’s self doesn’t offened the criteria, what are you talking about? The Rosary, which is a Prayer? Or the Hail Mary, which is a Prayer, as well as a component of the Rosary.

 

[Techno2000]

Ceasing: to come or bring to an end. Usually used with without.
I really don’t think that pray without ceasing means to repeat the same prayer over and over again.

This means not to stop praying to God, do not give up on praying, keep prayer in your daily life. Not repeat the same prayer over and over again.

How about if I use my own “Personal Interpretation” like protestant do and say that “pray without ceasing” means I can repeat prayers over and over ?

 

[rev_kevin]

How about if I use my own “Personal Interpretation” like protestant do and say that “pray without ceasing” means I can repeat prayers over and over ?

I could care less.

 

[Zundrah]

***Just curious. I was praying the Rosary before work today, and thought…this is such a beautiful prayer! (I think this a lot when praying the Rosary) A time to ask Mary for her prayers, as she is close to Jesus. We don’t look to Mary as ‘divine,’ we ask her to pray for us, similiarly to how you might ask a friend to pray for you.

If you don’t, just curious if you have ever considered it? ***

I use to do the rosary when I was methodist, but I deliberately missed the Creed and the
5th luminous mystery (the Eucharist).

 

[rev_kevin]

The rosary is it’s self a prayer though, made up of component parts. So why you say the prayer it’s self doesn’t offened the criteria, what are you talking about? The Rosary, which is a Prayer? Or the Hail Mary, which is a Prayer, as well as a component of the Rosary.

The Rosary comes from the Midieval Latin “rosarium” which in earlier Latin meant literally
“a rose garden.” It was used metaphorically to refer to a series of prayers, thought of perhaps as a garden of prayers and perhaps influenced by the association in Christian symbolism of the rose with the Virgin Mary and the rose garden with paradise. Rosarium was applied be extension to the strings of beads as well as to the prayers themselves.

The Rosary is a string of beads used in counting prayers. Its a devotion consisting of meditation on usually 5 sacred mysteries during recitiation of 5 dicades of Hail Mary which each is proceded by the Lord’s Prayer and followed by the Glory Patri.

Its a series of Prayers used in counting prayers and the one I’m talking about is Hail Mary.

 

[Australis]

***Just curious. I was praying the Rosary before work today, and thought…this is such a beautiful prayer! (I think this a lot when praying the Rosary) A time to ask Mary for her prayers, as she is close to Jesus. We don’t look to Mary as ‘divine,’ we ask her to pray for us, similiarly to how you might ask a friend to pray for you.

If you don’t, just curious if you have ever considered it? ***

I’m convertinng to Catholic sometime soon but no, I’ve never prayed the rosary. There are things that Catholics do that I’ve never done.

 

[ufamtobie]

No, I do not - and, I am not a Protestant, I’m not protesting anything (kind of like people calling you a papist - it’s a coded word). I am member of the Reformed faith.

I do not see Mary factoring into my spiritual life at all, except when I think of her amazing role as the mother of Jesus in the incarnation. She was uniquely blessed to carry our Lord and be his earthly parent - she must have been simply amazing.

ChosenAndCalled,

Jesus Christ proves you are wrong read the Bible Verse Below:

Luke 16: 19 There was a certain rich man, who was clothed in purple and fine linen; and feasted sumptuously every day. 20 And there was a certain beggar, named Lazarus, who lay at his gate, full of sores, 21 Desiring to be filled with the crumbs that fell from the rich man’s table, and no one did give him; moreover the dogs came, and licked his sores. 22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom. And the rich man also died: and he was buried in hell. 23 And lifting up his eyes when he was in torments, he saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom: 24 And he cried, and said: Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, to cool my tongue: for I am tormented in this flame. 25 And Abraham said to him: Son, remember that thou didst receive good things in thy lifetime, and likewise Lazareth evil things, but now he is comforted; and thou art tormented. 26 And besides all this, between us and you, there is fixed a great chaos: so that they who would pass from hence to you, cannot, nor from thence come hither. 27 And he said: Then, father, I beseech thee, that thou wouldst send him to my father’s house, for I have five brethren, 28 That he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torments. 29 And Abraham said to him: They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. 30 But he said: No, father Abraham: but if one went to them from the dead, they will do penance. 31 And he said to him: If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they believe, if one rise again from the dead.

ChosenandCalled

The Richman in hell called/prayed to Abraham. Now Abraham is not omnipotent or omnipresent nor is Abraham counted in the Blessed Trinity. Chosenandcalled Jesus Christ proves you wrong.

Now the Rich Man Lazarus is in hell and he can call/pray to Abraham how much more you and I can Call/PRAY TO Abraham, and all of the Saints in Heaven especially Virgin Mary.

Ufam Tobie

 

[ufamtobie]

My source is Life Application Sstudy Bible New Living Translation.

Ok once again I will give you word for word what my Bible says,
Matthew 6:7 "When you pray, don’t babble on and on as people of other religions do. They think their prayers are answered only by REPEATING THEIR WORDS AGAIN AND AGAIN. V.8 Don’t be like them, because your Father knows exactly what you need even before you ask Him! v.9 Pray like this: Our Father in heaven. may your name be honored. V10 May your kingdom come soon. May your will be done here on earth, just as it is in heaven. V11 Give us our food for today,* V.12 and forgive us our sins, just as we have forgiven those who have sinned against us. V13 And don’t let us yield to temptation, but deliver us from the evil one.*

Babble {'bab-el} vb babbled, babbling
To make a meaningless sound.
To talk foolishly or excessively chatter
To sound as though babbling
To reveal by too free talk.
Source:Webster’s Dictionary

Bable: reptious or meaningless chatter
When you pray don’t be…Matthew 6:7
Babbler has picked up some strange Acts 17:18
Source: Life Application Study Bible

Rev Kevin,

Let me tell you something you never thought of:

Tell me this, was the “Our Father Prayer” that Jesus Christ gave to his Apostles to pray, was it a prayer, that was only meant to be recited once or many times in each individual lifetime?

Rev Kevin, I am sure that you have recited the “Our Father Prayer” more than Once perhaps even daily, am I right? Rev. Dose this make you a Babbler?

Rev. have no fear regarding the Rosary, all the main parts of the Rosary is found in the Bible The Our Father, Hail Mary and repeating these word does not make you a babbler.​

1 AND it came to pass, that as he was in a certain place praying, when he ceased, one of his disciples said to him: Lord, teach us to pray, as John also taught his disciples.
2 And he said to them: When you pray, say: Father, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come.

3 Give us this day our daily bread.

4 And forgive us our sins, for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation

Ufam Tobie

 

[AwGusTeen]

I have NO PROBLEM WITH THE ROSARY! I just don’t pray it.
If you read my first post I said that the prayer is beautiful and that I have no problem with anyone who prays it. Got it!!!
How can Jesus condemn the Rosary. It wasn’t around then.
All of you are missing what I say. I don’t see the reason to repeat the same prayer over and over again. 50 times Why? Don’t you think God hears you the first time?
To say “Hail Mary full of grace the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou among women and blessed it the fruit of thy womb Jesus. Holy Mary mother of God pray for us sinners now and and the hour of our death. Amen”
I don’t see the reason to repeat this 50 times. You may but I don’t. Once again I have no problem with anyone praying the Rosary. The question was asked and I answered it. Sorry if you can’t handle the question and the answers that come with it. If you don’t like the answers don’t ask the question {not meaning you personally but the thread post}

Clearly, you don’t understand the contemplative nature of the Rosary. If you don’t wish to pray it, that’s certainly your right. However, your scriptural interpretation is what I disagree with. Most prevalent scripture translations do not prohibit repetative prayer; thus, I’m not convinced by your argument.

 

[crazzeto]

The Rosary comes from the Midieval Latin “rosarium” which in earlier Latin meant literally
“a rose garden.” It was used metaphorically to refer to a series of prayers, thought of perhaps as a garden of prayers and perhaps influenced by the association in Christian symbolism of the rose with the Virgin Mary and the rose garden with paradise. Rosarium was applied be extension to the strings of beads as well as to the prayers themselves.

I’m well aware of this, as well as the fact that it was the Holy Mother of the Church who came to St. Dominic and gave it to him as thee tool to defeat heresy. In fact this should give you some clues as to what it is, I’ve already commented on this earlier in fact if you read back some.

The Rosary is a string of beads used in counting prayers. Its a devotion consisting of meditation on usually 5 sacred mysteries during recitiation of 5 dicades of Hail Mary which each is proceded by the Lord’s Prayer and followed by the Glory Patri.

The necklas is based on the psalster which already existed by that point in time, the original ones had 150 beeds, useful for counting out Psalms which monks and other religious would pray continously as they walked from one location, to a distant other location. Is it really so supprising the Holy Mother would utilize objects already very familiar to St. Dominic? No doubt the Saint had his own Psalster when he received the new one from the Holy Mother, in fact in his private revelation she even described the Rosary as being one.

Its a series of Prayers used in counting prayers and the one I’m talking about is Hail Mary.

It is now it’s self essentially a prayer made up of others. It’s is not just a lose collection of prayers, rather it has a set structure.

 

[whatevergirl]

Clearly, you don’t understand the contemplative nature of the Rosary. If you don’t wish to pray it, that’s certainly your right. However, your scriptural interpretation is what I disagree with. Most prevalent scripture translations do not prohibit repetative prayer; thus, I’m not convinced by your argument.

• I agree (bolded for emphasis, mine) One of the many reasons I’m grateful that we have ONE person who interprets and teaches the Scripture with infallibilty, our Pope. *

 

[crazzeto]

• I agree (bolded for emphasis, mine) One of the many reasons I’m grateful that we have ONE person who interprets and teaches the Scripture with infallibilty, our Pope. *

Technically a group of people known as the Magisterium, but point taken

 

[rev_kevin]

Rev Kevin,

Let me tell you something you never thought of:

Tell me this, was the “Our Father Prayer” that Jesus Christ gave to his Apostles to pray, was it a prayer, that was only meant to be recited once or many times in each individual lifetime?

Rev Kevin, I am sure that you have recited the “Our Father Prayer” more than Once perhaps even daily, am I right? Rev. Dose this make you a Babbler?

Rev. have no fear regarding the Rosary, all the main parts of the Rosary is found in the Bible The Our Father, Hail Mary and repeating these word does not make you a babbler.​

1 AND it came to pass, that as he was in a certain place praying, when he ceased, one of his disciples said to him: Lord, teach us to pray, as John also taught his disciples.
2 And he said to them: When you pray, say: Father, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come.

3 Give us this day our daily bread.

4 And forgive us our sins, for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation

Ufam Tobie

No let me tell you something that you misunderstood.
I never said that you pray a prayer only once in a life time:shrug: What I said, if you would read what I wrote, was to pray the same prayer over and over again in a row get it in a row.
Like 50 times in a row.

The word babble is in the BIBLE that JESUS said so I just repeated what Jesus said. In Matthew 6:7 “When you pray, don’t BABBLE on and on as people of other religions do. They think their prayers are answered only by REPEATING their WORDS again and again.”

Take up the babble with Jesus he said it.

Matthew 6:9 says Pray like this: “Our Father in heaven may your name be honord. 10. May your kingdom come soon. May your will be don here on earth, just as it is in heaven. 11. Give us our food for today, 12. and forgive us our sins, just as we have forgiven those who have sinned agains us. 13. And don’t let us yield to temptation, but deliver us from the evil one.” Amen

No I have no fear reguarding the Rosary why should I? Its not part of my religion to say the Rosary. I haven’t seen anywhere in the Bible where is say you must pray the Hail Mary.

You missed “thy will be done on earath as it is in heaven…but deliever us from evil.” Amen

Next time read my post before you assume something.

 

[rev_kevin]

Clearly, you don’t understand the contemplative nature of the Rosary. If you don’t wish to pray it, that’s certainly your right. However, your scriptural interpretation is what I disagree with. Most prevalent scripture translations do not prohibit repetative prayer; thus, I’m not convinced by your argument.

Well I’m sorry that you disagree with what the Bible says In Matthew 6:7-8. But I don’t think that Jesus was wrong by what he said. As far as the nature of the Rosary, your correct but, its not part of my religion. When I was Catholic they never said why we pray the Rosary, they said just pray it. Repetative prayer is ok but not over and over again 50 times in a row it seems pointless to me. Its kinda like your boss telling you to do something over and over again in a row, for example, put this in the file cabnet, put this in the fille cabnet, put this in the file cabnet, put this in the file cabnet saying it 50 times in a row, its pointless unless your ignorant, and I don’t think God is.
By the way I’m not trying to convince you of anything, your mind is set just like mine is.

 

[rev_kevin]

I’m well aware of this, as well as the fact that it was the Holy Mother of the Church who came to St. Dominic and gave it to him as thee tool to defeat heresy. In fact this should give you some clues as to what it is, I’ve already commented on this earlier in fact if you read back some.

The necklas is based on the psalster which already existed by that point in time, the original ones had 150 beeds, useful for counting out Psalms which monks and other religious would pray continously as they walked from one location, to a distant other location. Is it really so supprising the Holy Mother would utilize objects already very familiar to St. Dominic? No doubt the Saint had his own Psalster when he received the new one from the Holy Mother, in fact in his private revelation she even described the Rosary as being one.

It is now it’s self essentially a prayer made up of others. It’s is not just a lose collection of prayers, rather it has a set structure.

Thats what I found on the Rosary but thanks for giving me more on it. Now I never said it was just a lose collection of prayers, What I said was, its a series of prayers used in connecting prayers.