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whatevergirl
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A little shift of subject, rev kevin…so you grew up Catholic? You should come back to the Church…we miss you. 
Have you thought about it at all?
Have you thought about it at all?
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rev_kevin
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laterOh Lordy… Am I supposed to accept your interpretation simply because you say it’s so? Why is your interpretation of Matt. 6:7 any better than mine? Do you have some special inspiration from above that others do not? Are you infallible? Does the Holy Spirit guide you while others, having differing opinions, are not? I’ve asked you several questions and all you can do is respond with the “argumentum ad homine”. It’s quite obvious that you are incapable of having a serious discussion on matters of theology. How sad.
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rev_kevin
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When I first left the Catholic faith it did but I like the faith that I’m in now. I have nothing against the Catholic faith. I just disagree with some of the beliefs and practices. I came to this site to learn more about the faith so I can put some of the ideas in my preaching. See I preach to people in the nursing homes. There are all different religions there. Baptists, Catholics, Methodist etc… I am one out of 2 preachers that go to the nursing homes and preach to them. Now after being on this site I have found many here that claim to be Christian but don’t act like they are. That has really turned me off on the Catholic faith. I can’t see how a person of faith can treat others, not just me, like they are nothing if there are not Catholic. I don’t beleive that there is only one church. I believe that there is one faith and that is the Christian faith that we all are part of. Now I know that someone is going to read this and tear into me because I don’t believe the way they do. But that will prove what I have said. We are to love our neighbors and no matter where you live we are neighbors. But here that part is lost. I was talking to my mother tonight and she said for me to pray to the former Pope. I have prakinsons and so did he. She told me that some people with parkinsons have prayed to him and they were cured. See said I know you don’t beleive in that anymore but I thought I would tell you about it. See says that she prays the Rosary everynight and includes me in her Rosary prayer. See said I know you don’t beleive in that either but I won’t stop. I told her I don’t want you to stop and that I don’t mind at all. Well sorry for rambling on or “babbling.”A little shift of subject, rev kevin…so you grew up Catholic? You should come back to the Church…we miss you.
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Dear Catholic Brothers and Sisters,
I know it’s a bit off-topic for this thread, but I feel compelled to respond to this post. I IMPLORE you to re-read the contents of his post with an open mind, and more importantly, a loving heart.
I would like to relate a brief story. On the campus of Auburn University where my wife and I attended, there is a wide brick walkway referred to as “The Concourse”. Lining one side of this concourse is a brick wall. Frequently, there were what could only be accurately described as “proselytizers” standing on that wall proclaiming the Word of God. In and of itself, this is a good thing. The problem is that they frequently took a “Holier-than-thou” approach to what I’m sure they honestly believed to be their evangelizing efforts. My wife could not be more innocent and naive, especially back then. She did, however wear shorts during the summer. (In that part of Alabama, it frequently reaches the upper 90’s, and was not unheard of to reach over 100 degrees Fahrenheit.) While walking by one such “proselytizer” on the way to class, she was singled out with a pointed finger and shouted at as a “Whore” for daring to show the skin of her legs. My wife is and was a practicing Catholic, and her faith did then as it does now mean much to her. This person who selected her at random was judging her solely on her outward appearances, and could not have been farther from the truth. In point of fact, she remained a virgin until our wedding night! She occasionally reflects on this experience, and points out that had she not already been a Christian, this would have likely turned her off to the Faith; surely the opposite of what this confused individual hoped to accomplish with his efforts.
My point is that I see in many here a similar rush to judgment. We are, most of us, devout Catholics. Many here are converts to the faith, and as such, are eager to share our new-found knowledge and love for Holy Mother Church. We have found our true Home in Faith, and have, many of us, come to the realization that we as Protestants were duped by those well-meaning pastors who raised us as otherwise good Christians. With our new-found zeal, we are convinced that if we could only open the eyes of our “Separated Brothers and Sisters”, that they would share our joy.
The problem, though, is that in our well-intentioned zeal, we pounce on these curious or questing souls and barrage them with questions they are either not prepared for, or worse, believe that they are firmly rooted in truth with their responses. The best way I know to drive them off is to push them in a corner and poke them with a sharp stick, and that, at least metaphorically, is EXACTLY what many here are doing.
Please, re-read this earnest Christian’s post. I see there nothing but a loving brother in Christ seeking answers. In return, we spit in his face and rub his nose in what we believe. Do you honestly think your abrasive words will convince him that he can find the joy and PEACE you experience in the Mass, along with the countless other graces our Lord affords us in the Church he founded 2,000 years ago?? If so, shame on you!
I will conclude as the Prologue to the CCC does, from Paragraph 25:
“The *whole *concern of doctrine and its teaching *must *be directed to the love that never ends. Whether something is proposed for belief, for hope, or for action, the love of our Lord must *always *be made accessible, so that anyone can see that all the works of perfect Christian virtue spring from love and have *no other objective *than to arrive at love.” [emphasis mine]
For those of you here in the US, Happy Thanksgiving.
For all, May God abundantly Bless you and yours.
In Him,
~Steven
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whatevergirl
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*Aw, this is a nice post!
I agree, too. Truth is, we are all God’s children, and we are more alike, than we are different. We should try to find our commonalities…of course, I believe that the **fullness of Truth *can be found only in the Catholic Church, but only through love will we be able to fully share that reality with others. Blessings to my brothers and sisters in Christ here. :hug1:
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AwGusTeen
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Steven:
I urge you to go back and re-read some of this “brothers” comments as they reflect anything but love. We are told to defend our faith and that is precisely what I have and will continue to do. Further, I would like to remind everyone that this is not a “fellowship” site, but one for discussion, exploration, debate, and a search for truth. Truth is truth no matter who it may offend.
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rev_kevin
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If I’m not mistaken you were the one to throw the first “punch” and then kept on and on. I’m the one who said that this is childish and that we should have a adult conversation. I went through all the posts here and I was definding my self. Yes I did say some things that offended you and I did say that I was sorry 2 times. Then I had enough with the childish ways that were going on. Once again sorry if I hurt your feelings. To discuss is fine, exploration is fine, debate is fine and to search for the truth is fine. But there is a way to do all this without being rude, sarcastic, or down right mean. Now your truth is what you believe and my truth is what I believe. I know that you will say that the Catholic church is the true church and that you have a history dating back 2000-3000 years. Thats fine but that don’t mean that I have to agree with you. Now the fellowship site, if some one wants to fellowship on this site they should be able to. Now this is not a site that should comdemn other religions or act in a manner less then a Christian should act. All of us are guilty of not acting like a Christian should and that is a shame. We should be kind to others and understand that there are different religions here on the Non-Catholic Religions Site which shouldn’t supprise any one. They have the right to defend their religion and point of view just like you do. But to attack, belittle, name calling, and nasty discussions is uncalled for and should stop. We need to mimic Jesus’ ways of loving others.
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benidict
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hello chosen. appreciate your views, but they are not very biblical. what do you do with the great cloud of witnesses found in the book of hebrews? also in revelation, where the saints are very interested in what is going on in the earth? we are not a divided Church. all live in him. we are doing nothing but what we would do if we ask one another to pray for eachother. we are not a Church where some are dead and some are alive. we are all alive. peace be with you.
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Miserys_Fence
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I’ll assume that by “Protestants” you actually mean “non-Catholic Christians.”
I’m a non-Catholic/non-Protestant Christian and I pray the Rosary daily.
Miz
I’m a non-Catholic/non-Protestant Christian and I pray the Rosary daily.
Miz
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lil_flower_luv
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I’m soooooo happy to hear you pray the Rosary! Thank you, thank you!
God’s peace and blessings.
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whatevergirl
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*Yes, my title was not broad enough, I realize.
I’m glad you are praying the Rosary, also. God bless!*
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AwGusTeen
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Rest easy - I am not now, nor was I ever offended.
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rikkk1958
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Why I pray the Rosary.
When I pray the Rosary, I do not expect anything in return but merely offering something to the Mother of God, perhaps like a bouquet of flowers. Also in allows us to remember the life of Jesus on earth from His birth to His death. I always believe though that the Mother of God can intercede for us because Catholics always follows what scriptures says. Mary interceded during the first public miracle of Jesus at a wedding in Cana.
Prayers that is divinely inspired is always good and no harm in doing so. I always chose to do good and praying that glorifies God matters to me. There’s no harm for praying with God directly. Praying the Rosary is a matter of choice. I would love to pray the Rosary and give thanks to our God Almighty.
When I pray the Rosary, I do not expect anything in return but merely offering something to the Mother of God, perhaps like a bouquet of flowers. Also in allows us to remember the life of Jesus on earth from His birth to His death. I always believe though that the Mother of God can intercede for us because Catholics always follows what scriptures says. Mary interceded during the first public miracle of Jesus at a wedding in Cana.
Prayers that is divinely inspired is always good and no harm in doing so. I always chose to do good and praying that glorifies God matters to me. There’s no harm for praying with God directly. Praying the Rosary is a matter of choice. I would love to pray the Rosary and give thanks to our God Almighty.
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whatevergirl
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Amen.
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Miserys_Fence
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I’m a huge believer in prayer, of any kind.I’m soooooo happy to hear you pray the Rosary! Thank you, thank you!
God’s peace and blessings.
I like the way that praying the Rosary puts me in a meditative state, and makes me more open to receive.I’ve never understood the non-Catholic opposition to this type of prayer. Is it because of the repetition? Do people think ‘repetitive’ = ‘not heart-felt?’ I was raised Protestant, and it seems that we said the same prayers every week. Is it because of asking the intercession of Mother Mary? My personal (as well as spiritual) belief is that no one ever dies, only the physical body stops functioning–so the Blessed Mother is alive in spirit, as are all of our deceased loved ones and the saints, so it makes just as much sense to ask them to pray for us as to ask a living person.
Personal note–one of the last things my fiance David said to me before he passed was to express concern for my finances. Sure enough, I had numerous unexpected bills that put me in a bind over the past few months. Knowing this had been a concern of his while he was alive in body, I asked him to pray for me. Just within the past few weeks, I’ve had a few financial windfalls and found a few extra ways to cut expenses. Do I think David had anything to do with it? Absolutely. He loves me, and love transcends even death. And as much as my fiance wants me safe and happy, why wouldn’t my Blessed Mother want the same?
When I look back on learning to pray the Rosary, juggling the ‘cheat sheet’ and trying to get used to physically handling the beads and remembering which prayers came where and the Mysteries…I can honestly say I wasn’t as ‘in to it’ spiritually because I was trying so hard to remember everything and do it right. But practice makes perfect, and God understands that I was still learning. One I got everything memorized and the rhythm and ritual down pat, the prayers just flow and I go into a meditative state; I would compare it to an athlete being ‘in the zone.’
Miz
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Anna_Scott
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I visited your profile. I am so sorry to hear that you were widowed young, and now you have lost your fiancee. I really can’t imagine what you are going through.I’m a huge believer in prayer, of any kind.
I’ve never understood the non-Catholic opposition to this type of prayer. Is it because of the repetition? Do people think ‘repetitive’ = ‘not heart-felt?’ I was raised Protestant, and it seems that we said the same prayers every week. Is it because of asking the intercession of Mother Mary? My personal (as well as spiritual) belief is that no one ever dies, only the physical body stops functioning–so the Blessed Mother is alive in spirit, as are all of our deceased loved ones and the saints, so it makes just as much sense to ask them to pray for us as to ask a living person.
Personal note–one of the last things my fiance David said to me before he passed was to express concern for my finances. Sure enough, I had numerous unexpected bills that put me in a bind over the past few months. Knowing this had been a concern of his while he was alive in body, I asked him to pray for me. Just within the past few weeks, I’ve had a few financial windfalls and found a few extra ways to cut expenses. Do I think David had anything to do with it? Absolutely. He loves me, and love transcends even death. And as much as my fiance wants me safe and happy, why wouldn’t my Blessed Mother want the same?
When I look back on learning to pray the Rosary, juggling the ‘cheat sheet’ and trying to get used to physically handling the beads and remembering which prayers came where and the Mysteries…I can honestly say I wasn’t as ‘in to it’ spiritually because I was trying so hard to remember everything and do it right. But practice makes perfect, and God understands that I was still learning. One I got everything memorized and the rhythm and ritual down pat, the prayers just flow and I go into a meditative state; I would compare it to an athlete being ‘in the zone.’
Miz
I am a Christian in the Protestant Sector, and I find myself praying for those who are deceased, and also talking to my mother who passed away years ago. As you know this is not a “Protestant” thing to do. I can’t really say, when I first started doing this.
I have no doubt that David is watching over you. As I read your post, I remembered this passage in Psalm 91. It occurred to me that David may see things in a different way, now, and may even ask God to command His angels to “guard you in all your ways.”
Psalm 91:10-12 (English Standard Version):
10 no evil shall be allowed to befall you,
no plague come near your tent.
11 For he will command his angels concerning you
to guard you in all your ways.
12On their hands they will bear you up,
lest you strike your foot against a stone.
May God bless you, my Sister,
Anna
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