To Protestants mainly-Mary's virginity

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I was reading another thread about Mary’s sinlessness and a question occurred to me that would have taken the thread in a different direction then the OP had originally intended. So, I decided to post another thread.

Protestants do not believe in Mary’s sinlessness but they do believe in her virginity at the time of our Lord’s conception. I am sure that most would state that they believe in her virginity due to the biblical passages.

I think that we all know that God does things for a reason. My question to Protestants is: “Why was the virginity of Mary necessary?” In other words, what purpose did her purity serve?

Of course, Catholics can answer also, but I hope for more Protestants responses.
 
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I was reading another thread about Mary’s sinlessness and a question occurred to me that would have taken the thread in a different direction then the OP had originally intended. So, I decided to post another thread.

Protestants do not believe in Mary’s sinlessness but they do believe in her virginity at the time of our Lord’s conception. I am sure that most would state that they believe in her virginity due to the biblical passages.

I think that we all know that God does things for a reason. My question to Protestants is: “Why was the virginity of Mary necessary?” In other words, what purpose did her purity serve?

Of course, Catholics can answer also, but I hope for more Protestants responses.
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I am Catholic so I am not going to answer right now. I will say that is a great question!!! 👍
 
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deb1:
I was reading another thread about Mary’s sinlessness and a question occurred to me that would have taken the thread in a different direction then the OP had originally intended. So, I decided to post another thread.

Protestants do not believe in Mary’s sinlessness but they do believe in her virginity at the time of our Lord’s conception. I am sure that most would state that they believe in her virginity due to the biblical passages.

I think that we all know that God does things for a reason. My question to Protestants is: “Why was the virginity of Mary necessary?” In other words, what purpose did her purity serve?

Of course, Catholics can answer also, but I hope for more Protestants responses.
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to fulfill the prophecys in Isaiah.
 
According to most of Protestantism, Mary’s virginity was a testimony to her child’s paternity. Without it, the fact that Joseph was not Jesus’ father would have entailed countless confusions.

In theory, Jesus could have been conceived of the Holy Ghost even if Mary had already borne other children. But it would have been very difficult to convince anyone else of his deity, even with his miraculous life, death, resurrection, and ascension.
 
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deb1:
I was reading another thread about Mary’s sinlessness and a question occurred to me that would have taken the thread in a different direction then the OP had originally intended. So, I decided to post another thread.

Protestants do not believe in Mary’s sinlessness but they do believe in her virginity at the time of our Lord’s conception. I am sure that most would state that they believe in her virginity due to the biblical passages.

I think that we all know that God does things for a reason. My question to Protestants is: “Why was the virginity of Mary necessary?” In other words, what purpose did her purity serve?

Of course, Catholics can answer also, but I hope for more Protestants responses.
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If Mary had not been a virgin, there could have been an argument about the paternity of Jesus.
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yes had to be a virgin because of paternity issue, and then all those books of genology would not be important. The whole genology is important even if our generation doesnt think so. Also the mormons are all about it so one knows somethings in the works that has yet to be reveled.

Also about Mary even if I may not pray to her I recognise that all generations are to call her blessed. I see her as a example of a fellow christian (I despise the term biblical character) who trusted God in a way most of us will never know.
 
Thank you all for taking the time to answer.🙂

It seems that the consensus is that Mary was a virgin to refute any claim of illegitimacy against Jesus? This would work only with those of us who are already Christians, though. In the Talmud it is written that Jesus’s dad was a Roman soldier named, Panthera.:eek: I found this below looking for a site on Jesus in the Talmud. Because I think that I have too many words for this post, I will put the link to it in the next post.

. The early Christians were also aware of the name “ben Pandeira” for Jesus. The pagan philosopher Celsus, who was famous for his arguments against Christianity, claimed in 178 C.E. that he had heard from a Jew that Jesus’s mother, Mary, had been divorced by her husband, a carpenter, after it had been proved that she was an adultress. She wandered about in shame and bore Jesus in secret. His real father was a soldier named Pantheras. According to the Christian writer Epiphanius (c. 320 - 403 C.E.), the Christian apologist Origen (c.185 – 254 C.E.) had claimed that “Panther” was the nickname for Jacob the father of Joseph, the stepfather of Jesus. It should be noted that Origen’s claim is not based on any historical information. It is purely a conjecture aimed at explaining away the Pantheras story of Celsus. That story is also not historical. The claim that the name of Jesus’s mother was Mary and the claim that her husband was a carpenter is taken directly from Christian belief. The claim that Jesus’s real father was named Pantheras is based on an incorrect attempt at reconstructing the original form of Pandeira. This incorrect reconstruction was probably influenced by the fact that the name Pantheras was found among Roman soldiers.
 
mama.indstate.edu/users/nizrael/jesusrefutation.html

Above is the page that I got the information from. The man is trying to disprove Jesus’ existence, so of course, I don’t agree with him. I merely link to him to show that there were questions about Jesus’ paternity at a very early period. This makes sense, as no one except one of us believers would accept Mary’s virginity.
 
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mama.indstate.edu/users/nizrael/jesusrefutation.html

Above is the page that I got the information from. The man is trying to disprove Jesus’ existence, so of course, I don’t agree with him. I merely link to him to show that there were questions about Jesus’ paternity at a very early period. This makes sense, as no one except one of us believers would accept Mary’s virginity.
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Agreed. Most people would need a very good reason to believe a virgin would give birth. There are liberals who contend that both virgin birth narratives are myths developed to overcome a scandalous(illegitimate) birth. Bishop Spong devoted a great deal of time in one of his books to that theory. Part of that theory points out the “scandal” ,if you will, of the women mentioned in the geneaology.

As far as the prophecy, I do not think any Jews would contend that was a messianic prophecy in the first place…Matthews including it aside.

Like I said, I think that is why there is a virgin birth, but sure, it is unconvincing to outsiders.
BH
 
There is a reason there is those lonnnngggg lists of who begat who. God wouldnt have them there for no reason.

How it will all play out we have yet to see.

Scandals like Celsus are like the DaVinci Code
They try to disprove Christ by cutting Him down
sorta like politics
actually like alot of things this world is not interested in Truth
its intested in lies and whos in charge of that department.

Thus why my eyes are blind and now I see.

I see Truth and who He is, Christ.
 
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