We’ve apologized for past injustices. You won’t be expecting another Spanish Inquisition anytime soon. (Forgive the Monty Python reference, I couldn’t resist…)
It’s best to leave private lives out of this. What’s done is done.
Your “Jewish persecution” problems are interfering with this thread. I refuse to have you turn this around to your liking Hashem, either answer the question, or don’t post here.
Its not private if it was discussed by the OP in another one of her threads. Private means it was brought to the forum from elsewhere, and was never discussed by the OP on this forum.We’ve apologized for past injustices. You won’t be expecting another Spanish Inquisition anytime soon. (Forgive the Monty Python reference, I couldn’t resist…)
It’s best to leave private lives out of this. What’s done is done.
Oh, and regarding Deuteronomy 13, I don’t recall Jesus ever telling his disciples and the Jews of his day to go “follow other gods, whom [they] have not known”…
Why do you conitnue to refer to me as God, by God’s Name?
I agree. You could expect a much better answer from one of the official apologists here though; I’m sure they’d be happy to help you out.
Well, truthfully, I would never have even posed the question if Cathdefender had not done so in reverse…because the issue of what Gentiles would think or do if they found out Jesus was a false deity never really concerned me…because I’m not obsessed with that question the way Cathdefender seems obsessed with the question in reverse.
The truth is, that if Jesus appeared to me in a vision and changed my water into wine, I’d still be Jewish and I’d still reject the idea of him being the Messiah.
If the original question was would I believe Jesus existed, sure. If it was would I believe Jesus was God or the Messiah, then I stick with my original post.
Well then Valke, other than sounding arrogant, I am not surprised at this answer. You should be so privileged as to have that dream.
I’m not sure why, but your bunny icon makes me edgy.
Because you have the correct Jewish understanding of such “visions” and “miracles” (remember that the pagan priests at Pharoah’s court were also able to turn a rod into a snake, to teach us that false religions can also work “miracles”.)
Speaking as a former atheist who met Jesus face to face at the age of ten, I can tell you I’d join the Church - which I did.
I’m not being arrogant. I am trying to answer your question, which I find a bit arrogant, so I guess we’re even.
But the Gospels are all about Jesus and his miracles and such. If four men wrote the same things with not much of a difference and it’s recorded, it must be true. Although I have had other experiences with other matters about Christ in which I choose not to get into, I will always have faith in Jesus. How could anyone have made up the Gospels? How could any man conjure up a story like that? It must be from God.
All religions have miraculous occurrences, it doesn’t make them the truth.
Hi Valke2,
And Christians don’t know how to use reason and logic? It were some of the Jews who were awed by the miracles of Christ.
That is why God warned us in the Torah, in Deut. 13 and also in Exodus, to beware of signs and wonders done by BOTH Jews and nonJews…because He knew that even some Jews would fall into idolatry because of things they have seen.
