To what extent do I obey my parents regarding relationships?

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You have the right to do what you want as far as dating goes, however, I would give your parents’ (name removed by moderator)ut serious consideration. They probably know you pretty well, and while 18 isn’t a universal, “too young to date”, it IS pretty young to be in a serious relationship. I would also discourage most young women at that age from concentrating on a serious relationship in most circumstances. Your immediate focus should be your education. If this guy is “the one”, he’ll still be there in a few years when you’ve both finished your undergrad and had some life experience outside of your parents’ homes. It sounds like mom and dad are okay with you being friends with this guy and spending time together, so as long as you don’t do anything with him that you have to lie about, well, then you won’t have to lie about it. And really, anything that you would have to lie about, you probably shouldn’t be doing at this point in your life anyway. When you’ve finished your undergrad and have been “adulating” for a while longer, it’s highly likely that even the most traditional parents would feel obliged to consider and respect your own feelings and plans regarding your future.
 
I see what you guys are saying. My parents are Catholic but in their country social norms often overpower Religion, however that is slowly starting to dye away. Now with my college, my parents aren’t paying for it… I’m mostly on loans and I have merit aid. As with distractions, both of us take our studies seriously and I guess we can help each other out in not being distracted. I just think that it’s dumb that I have to abide by a rule like this even when I’m 18. I put off dating in high school because I knew that I wasn’t ready, but once I moved out I realized that I am ready and am open to dating. There are a lot of ways this can be concealed if we do live in the east coast considering my parents will be on the other side of the country. I know that this is an inconvenient situation but my parents’ definition of love and marriage don’t coincide with Catholic teaching. I know lying to them is wrong, but it’s not lying if no one has to mention anything right?
 
I know I gave a thumbs-up to 1ke’s post, and from a 'legalistic" standpoint, I stand by that.

HOWEVER, I really should have said more:

I am also very much in support of the reply to, “focus on your studies!” If this person is “the one,” he will understand and support your decision to focus on your education.

This doesn’t mean become a recluse, go out for pizza, etc; however, IMHO, don’t let it progress beyond that until after you’ve ideally graduated, or at least, have been “on your own” for a few years. Too many young college men are looking for the 1st-base to homerun overnight - I’m not saying that this is true in your case; however, just something to be aware of.

I think here that your emotional conflict is potentially a sign that this isn’t the right course of action for you at this time. 🤷 Really, this could be the Holy Spirit, your Guardian Angel, or just that “gut feeling” that there’s something not exactly right about this potential relationship.

I also want to stress this, any relationship that causes you to have to lie to yourself, another, or your parents needs to be very carefully examined. What is it about the relationship that makes it worth potentially breaking one of the ten commandments?!

18, from the advantage of my age (and I suspect many others here at CAF have that advantage too 🙂 ) is very young in the scheme of things. Please, give yourself a few years in Collage as a young adult to get your life “in-order” by getting your education, developing other friendships, and finding employment. Once you “settle down” or “become serious” with someone you have to start taking their needs and wants into consideration which can lead to, in some cases, dropping out of school, their friends not yours, less than ideal employment (one reason, relocation becomes an emotional affair!).

There’s much more I can say; however, with the other posts, this should cover the main points.

In whatever choice you make, my our Lord bless you.
 
I see what you guys are saying. My parents are Catholic but in their country social norms often overpower Religion, however that is slowly starting to dye away. Now with my college, my parents aren’t paying for it… I’m mostly on loans and I have merit aid. As with distractions, both of us take our studies seriously and I guess we can help each other out in not being distracted. I just think that it’s dumb that I have to abide by a rule like this even when I’m 18. I put off dating in high school because I knew that I wasn’t ready, but once I moved out I realized that I am ready and am open to dating. There are a lot of ways this can be concealed if we do live in the east coast considering my parents will be on the other side of the country. I know that this is an inconvenient situation but my parents’ definition of love and marriage don’t coincide with Catholic teaching. I know lying to them is wrong, but it’s not lying if no one has to mention anything right?
You are not obligated to follow any “rules” your parents had for you when you were a child. You are not obligated to tell them about any dates you go on. You are not obligated to call them dates. You aren’t obligated to go the path they want you to go regarding marriage.

Also, you state you have 8 years of school ahead of you. Consider at what point you might might marry if you and he do date and become serious. Eight years is a very long time to date without the prospect of marriage. Consider whether marriage is a fit for you as you enter the latter years of college or graduate school. I don’t suggest putting off marriage if you are dating seriously, and I don’t suggest dating if you are serious about putting off marriage for 8 years.

And be open to changing your priorities if you decide that you are serious and do want to move forward as a couple in marriage. You don’t have to have your whole life figured out at 18. You don’t have to have an 8 year plan. Be open to where God might take you.
 
That is definitely true. I think she means that someone with more knowledge about the culture’s particulars would be able to give more advice on how best to navigate those particulars and what to expect in terms of fallout.
Yes thank you…

To apply advice from people who are from an individualistic culture and thinking and apply it to persons used to a collectivist culture iand thinking is not ideal.
 
If I had followed the advice to “focus on my studies and not get in to a serious relationship til after college” I wouldn’t be married now. If both of you respect the fact that you are studying and are able to help each other out in that regard then that’s great.

Just being a student is not a good enough reason to avoid relationships. If you accept that logic then it’s just as well to say “Don’t get married, you have a CAREER to focus on!”.
 
I see what you guys are saying. My parents are Catholic but in their country social norms often overpower Religion, however that is slowly starting to dye away. Now with my college, my parents aren’t paying for it… I’m mostly on loans and I have merit aid. As with distractions, both of us take our studies seriously and I guess we can help each other out in not being distracted. I just think that it’s dumb that** I have to abide by a rule like this even when I’m 18.** I put off dating in high school because I knew that I wasn’t ready, but once I moved out I realized that I am ready and am open to dating. There are a lot of ways this can be concealed if we do live in the east coast considering my parents will be on the other side of the country. I know that this is an inconvenient situation but my parents’ definition of love and marriage don’t coincide with Catholic teaching. I know lying to them is wrong, but it’s not lying if no one has to mention anything right?
1 - Their Catholic faith should override the cultural norms, not the other way around. Obviously it’s not always that simple but it should be the case.

2 - If your parents aren’t paying and you are more or less self sufficient then I wouldn’t worry at all about their attitude to dating.

3 - If you can help each other in studies, even better.

4 - You don’t have to abide by your parents “house rules” as you aren’t living in their home anymore.

6 - This is most important, if your parent’s definition of love and marriage are completely different to what the Church teaches then you are under no moral obligation to follow that model for your future marriage.

Just a question. If you wanted to be a nun would they have a problem with that?
 
This is a funny thread to come across, since at Liturgy today I saw an Indian/European couple 🙂
]One reason is because they would prefer I worry about dating and stuff after I finish college/ grad school, which is 8 years from now.
If you truly want both the relationship and the education, I think you will find a way to make it work.

Have you thought about making a rough plan to balance the relationship with your schooling? Your parents might be more receptive to the relationship if you have a plan, and even let them help in making it.

Furthermore, I know from my own experience as a young man at least (I still am a young man, by the way), that a relationship can motivated you to work harder for the sake of the beloved. I worked harder in school for a girl I dated in college, and so did many of my friends. If you can use the relationship to better your approach to your education, your parents, and you, might be happier with it.

The key is to find how the relationship and school might conflict, and make plans to overcome the conflicts, as well as find ways in which your relationship helps enhance your working towards your education, and promote them. You can’t plan everything, of course, but you it definitely helps.

…at least as I see it. Since I’m only like three or four years older than you, you might want to be careful with my advice 😃
Another reason is that my parents don’t believe in the concept of dating. My parents are from India and they practically had an arranged marriage and they prefer that I do the same, but I don’t believe in that stuff because my parents’ marriage is not good at all. Fights have broken out and ultimately they are just not compatible with each other. ( I was born and raised in the USA).
My parents’ marriage isn’t good either, nor was my mother’s parents’. Interestingly enough, one of the reasons parents traditionally prefered arranged marriages is because people thought those who had experience in the realities of married life, as well as knew their child better than the child understands him or herself, would be better at discerning who would be a good partner for their child than a youth with little experience being tossed around by strong feelings 🤷

But this is how I view it: parents should give their children the freedom to choose their own mate, but children should be receptive in considering their parent’s wisdom and advice in the matter. That doesn’t mean absolutely follow their advice to the letter, but understand that your parents do wish your happiness, and that they just want to help avoid potential problems and reap the benefits of a happy marriage.

When it comes to anyone, don’t just consider what they say, but why they say it. What is the purpose of, the motivation behind, this or that advice? Can I overcome the problems that might come and enjoy the benefits that might be lost from not following the advice another, even better way?

I think the reason your parents prefer arranged marriage is due to it being more familiar to them (nobody likes change). In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if the reason they want to arrange your marriage is to, wait for it, help you find someone that between you two avoids the problems they have in their own marriage!
Here’s another issue: my parents want me to date/marry someone of the same race as me, but my friend is European/white.
Well, it is actually rather prudent in a lot of cases, I’m sorry to say, to marry within your ethnicity, culture, and religion.

Now, fortunately for you, you don’t seem like you have to deal with the conflicts between, say, Hinduism and Catholicism, so this is a major benefit, in my view.

In eastern North America, many of the stigmas with marrying outside your ethnicity and culture do not exist, or are very weak.

But, on the other hand, and I don’t know how westernized you and your family is, but marrying in the same ethnicity helps pass on your culture to the next generation. That’s important too. Maybe you can find a way to pass on your family traditions in the relationship?

What I’m more concerned about, though, is not your parents’ views, but yours. Do you know what the purpose of Christian marriage is? Do you think that you and your friend would be able to, together, reach those ends? What do you personally expect in marriage? What does he personally expect in marriage? Are your emotions for this boy clouding your mind from seeing the potential problems in such a relationship? Do you understand that feelings develop and refine over time? Trust me, the latter two tend to be a major problem for young couples!

Another point to remember is that economic aspects of marriage are important too, even though they are more of a means to a happy marriage rather than an end. Loving your spouse is definitely more important, but it’s harder to love when your stomachs are growling!

Good luck in discernment, and possibly convincing your parents! I think everyone on this thread will be praying for you! Fortunately for you, I can’t give you the right approach to this, because in some ways there are different ways to go that are not wrong and up to your own personal choice, I don’t know you too well nor your circumstances, and, well, you should always take advice from the internet with a grain of -scratch that- a couple pounds of salt 😉

Christi pax.
 
Well, it is actually rather prudent in a lot of cases, I’m sorry to say, to marry within your ethnicity, culture, and religion.

Now, fortunately for you, you don’t seem like you have to deal with the conflicts between, say, Hinduism and Catholicism, so this is a major benefit, in my view.

In eastern North America, many of the stigmas with marrying outside your ethnicity and culture do not exist, or are very weak.

But, on the other hand, and I don’t know how westernized you and your family is, but marrying in the same ethnicity helps pass on your culture to the next generation. That’s important too. Maybe you can find a way to pass on your family traditions in the relationship?
I’d agree it’s prudent to marry within your religion. But if your religion is Catholic, then I don’t see why the other stuff should matter. It’s not called the “Catholic” or universal Church for nothing. Really, a Catholic from Bangladesh should have no problem getting on with a Catholic from Ireland or Arizona. The most important thing is that the faith gets passed on to your children IMO.
 
Since I hear mixed replies, I suddenly realized I read this story in June in the NY times. I will post it here nytimes.com/2016/06/05/fashion/weddings/a-secret-relationship-until-mom-and-dad-needed-to-know.html

This woman was in the same exact situation as me. We come from the same culture as well. If everything worked out for her in the end, why wouldn’t it for me? Please read the entire thing and consider what is being said. It will help you understand my situation better.

Oh I forgot to mention it, but I really wasn’t raised in a traditional sense. I’m more American/ Western than what my parents’ culture is. In fact, I really don’t want to pass cultural traditions down because I don’t feel as if I have a connection with them.
 
Thank you for posting the article, I read it and while interesting you asked the question here in your post “If everything worked out for her in the end, why wouldn’t it for me?”

Dear one, you already know the answer to that question. It is because you are two completely different people with different personalities, leading different lives that have different parents that have different temperaments.

You can behave in the exact same way as that woman, but you are not guaranteed the 100% same outcome but you already knew that too. Seek your own destiny, seek to live the life that God wants you to live. **Do **you ****want to live a secret dating life? Do you believe that is what God is calling you to do? If it is then fine, but seek to live your own life and listen to God’s voice for His plan for you, it matters very little what other people in your shoes have done really when you think about it.
It’s less about living a secret dating life than about withholding information from parents that they really don’t have a right to know about anyway. At last for now.
 
You do not have to date someone exactly two years older than you. That’s ridiculous.

Dating in college is fine as long as it isn’t too distracting. You know yourself best. If marriage is in the future, I’d wait until you graduate undergrad.

IMO refusing to pay for someone’s tuition if they’re dating someone is unreasonable, unless grades drop or the person is a bad influence. But it’s their money and their choice if they are paying.
Salutations,
I didn’t mean the guy had to be 2yo or better. It is helpful if, he knows who he is and completes some career goal to take a wife and afford her. One friend of mine is older than her MIL. He sacrificed children, as she had a hysterectomy.
I find it troublesome that some of us are stressing her age and independence.
Even as an American, I heard my parents and respected their counsel. But, I
Had God’s hand firmly in mine and there were no conflicts.
She is to marry whom she feels she’s in love with. But, he should have a decent job and remember he will be father to your children. Also, what is his family like.
Growing up and away from loving, caring parents is hard. God is ever w you when you do go. Finish school first.
in Christ’s love
Tweedlealice
 
Oh I forgot to mention it, but I really wasn’t raised in a traditional sense. I’m more American/ Western than what my parents’ culture is. In fact, I really don’t want to pass cultural traditions down because I don’t feel as if I have a connection with them.
That must be an interesting story to tell. Anyway, traditional people in the West may very well think parents can tell you not to date as long as they’re the ones paying the bills, paying for your school etc. I personally don’t find that view particularly thrilling, but one can’t really ignore the fact that it’s some kind of agreement, in some way similar to terms of a government-funded scholarship. They don’t get to just tell you no dating until we give you the green light simply because they are your parents, at least not after you turn 18, but it’s a completely different thing when (if) they’re paying for your college and the goal of asking you to not date is for you to not be distracted from your studies by dating, so you can make the most out of the studies they’re paying for, avoid the risk of dropping out, not getting grades good enough for any advanced programmes you may want to take later (master’s and ph.d. programmes in attractive universities tend to have rather steep requirements) or free scholarships or anything else that matters.

On the other hand, if you work to pay for your studies and rent and don’t depend on your parents for material support, then all you need to do is respect them by taking their advice into consideration (a careful, real consideration, pros and cons, a good deal of awareness that they have more experience than you do) and not treating their wishes as irrelevant. But not treating someone’s wishes as irrelevant is not the same as allowing that person’s wishes to control your life.

Do note that cutting all contact with a girl you somehow managed to fall in love with (and be sure you love her etc.) would be an extreme sacrifice… that your parents would probably not be asking you to make. But social dating, as in being in the market and meeting girls for coffee or drinks (or films, dinners or whatever) is a huge time-waster, or at least a horribly time-consuming and attention distracting thing, the avoidance of which is not as big a sacrifice, since it’s not like someone’s already captured your heart, let alone for real.

On the other hand, just simply looking for a girl to marry and start having babies with because that’s your calling in life is something that can wait a couple of years. From a pragmatic point of view it might be a better idea to wait, actually. At least as long as college is not your last opportunity to meet a lot of people about your own age on a frequent basis.
 
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