Tobit's Experience and Saul's (St Paul') Eye Problems

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Today’s first reading is from Tobit Chapter 2 where Tobit ends up with “white films formed” on his eyes that a doctor could not heal. St Paul at his conversion had “something like scales fell from his eyes and he regained his sight” (Acts 9, 18)

Any relationship between these 2 events other than it took God’s intervention to remove their affliction?

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Terry D.
 
Don’t forget the horse thing. GOD loves a great story (HE knew we’d keep telling that one). :):)🙂
 
Tobit 11:13
Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE)
13 and the white films scaled off from the corners of his eyes.

Acts 9:18
Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE)
18 And immediately something like scales fell from his eyes and he regained his sight. Then he rose and was baptized,

There are common elements in the heavenly presence (Raphael, or Jesus), the loss of sight from above (by birds of the air of the Lord in heaven) of a zealously religious man, and the description of scaling as regards that loss of sight.

Tobit, though rejected by protestants, reveals the most advanced information about angels in the entire Old Testament. It is consistent with what Jesus expanded on some 200 years later, regarding the angelic nature. For these reasons and others, the Deuterocanon books are clearly preparatory for the Incarnation. This causes me to wonder: if God did not inspire this preparatory lesson, then just who did?
 
Off topic, slightly, but…

Tobit is one of my favorite books. I especially love the prayers, but the whole book is beautiful.
 
Beryllos said:
Off topic, slightly, but…

Tobit is one of my favorite books. I especially love the prayers, but the whole book is beautiful.
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I came from another denomination where the standard was the KJV bible and it is missing the 7 books like Tobit. So, I have some catching up to do! I never have read it! 🤷
 
Becca3 said:
I came from another denomination where the standard was the KJV bible and it is missing the 7 books like Tobit. So, I have some catching up to do! I never have read it! 🤷
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Please do…its great!
 
And just for general information, the KJV does include the Apocrypha, though some Protestants remove them.
 
ChurchSoldier said:
And just for general information, the KJV does include the Apocrypha, though some Protestants remove them.
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The KJV with the -]Apocrypha/-] Deuterocanon included is very rare. Some Lutherans may retain them, and some Anglicans and possibly some Episcopalians, but the vast majority of KJVs do not have them. And, those that retain them practice a form of scriptural apartheid, in that they segregate those books to a lesser position between the Testaments. A shame, in my opinion, as the Church has used them in the liturgy and instruction since the earliest days. 1,500 years later, a rebellious soul decided he did not like them. And yes, Jerome also did not think they were canonical, but then again, Jerome was neither Pope nor Church council, nor did he desire to rebel and form his own following.

For those who wish to know just a bit more about the Deuterocanonical books: catholiceducation.org/articles/apologetics/ap0120.html
 
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_apocrypha

Also called the Deuterocanonical books. Apocrypha means roughly “of unknown origin or authorship”. During the Protestant Reformation many Protestants took them out of the Bible stating the Catholic Church “added them” to support some of their theology such as purgatory.
 
po18guy said:
The KJV with the -]Apocrypha/-] Deuterocanon included is very rare. Some Lutherans may retain them, and some Anglicans and possibly some Episcopalians, but the vast majority of KJVs do not have them. And, those that retain them practice a form of scriptural apartheid, in that they segregate those books to a lesser position between the Testaments. A shame, in my opinion, as the Church has used them in the liturgy and instruction since the earliest days. 1,500 years later, a rebellious soul decided he did not like them. And yes, Jerome also did not think they were canonical, but then again, Jerome was neither Pope nor Church council, nor did he desire to rebel and form his own following.

For those who wish to know just a bit more about the Deuterocanonical books: catholiceducation.org/articles/apologetics/ap0120.html
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I have clicked the link and will read that in the morning. Thank you for that! Yes, I think I have never seen the KJV with the missing books included. Very rare. You might can find one in an antiques bookstore. 🤷 Boy! Would that be a find!
 
ChurchSoldier said:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_apocrypha

Also called the Deuterocanonical books. Apocrypha means roughly “of unknown origin or authorship”.
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It actually means “hidden.” If lack of authorship condemns scripture, then we must discard the entire bible! There is not a single signed or original manuscript anywhere on earth. All that exist are unsigned copies of copies of copies of copies. Sacred Tradition assigns authorship to those which it can, but there is no hard, courtroom level proof of the authorship of any book of the bible.
 
po18guy said:
It actually means “hidden.” If lack of authorship condemns scripture, then we must discard the entire bible! There is not a single signed or original manuscript anywhere on earth. All that exist are unsigned copies of copies of copies of copies. Sacred Tradition assigns authorship to those which it can, but there is no hard, courtroom level proof of the authorship of any book of the bible.
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That is so true!! Even the Dead Sea Scrolls were not signed by any author.
Also called the Deuterocanonical books. Apocrypha means roughly “of unknown origin or authorship”. During the Protestant Reformation many Protestants took them out of the Bible stating the Catholic Church “added them” to support some of their theology such as purgatory.
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Wow. the Protestant church said that about the Mother Church 'adding them"?
 
Becca3 said:
That is so true!! Even the Dead Sea Scrolls were not signed by any author.

Wow. the Protestant church said that about the Mother Church 'adding them"?
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Yeah, they’re missing out on a lot of good stuff.
 
Beryllos said:
Off topic, slightly, but…

Tobit is one of my favorite books. I especially love the prayers, but the whole book is beautiful.
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I read the book last week after I attended Mass Wednesday and heard the Scripture and the Homily. My Bible has a very extensive explanation of Tobit in the beginning (and of each book) and great footnotes. NAB, I believe (it’s in the bedroom).

It has made me very hungry to read more like it!
Blessings,
Christina
 
Here’s a link to an essay on the Deuterocanonical texts and how they came to be left out of Protestant Bibles. I thought it was interesting.
 
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