Tomorrow. Day of reparation for the Pachamama rituals

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I’m terribly sorry that you have a hard time understanding scripture, but Moses makes it pretty clear not to sully your tounge with the names of demons. Look, if you want to be nice to the demons you can, but rest assured they will not be nice to you.

There is a reason why the protestants have been more successful in converting the amazonians pagans to their false faith while the Christian Church has not. The protestants don’t enable people and tell them what needs to be said about their idol. The earth is not divine, only God is.

And I only call it the Nachomama on here and other catholic forums to remind my siblings in Christ that the false deity is not their mother. To say that the earth is our mother is to imply that is has authority over us. The earth is more like a little sister more than anything. We have authority over it, not the other way around.
 
The 6th of December is my mother’s birthday and she would be heartbroken if I refused to join the family for dinner. I do sympathize with these Exorcists and agree that reparation must be done though, and as such I did fast on Wednesday (the traditional day for fasting in the Catholic Tradition).
 
@IanM I did not take offense from your post but made me think things through. Temptations get stronger during Advent and Lent but I didn’t find your post offensive in any way.
 
HvonB said:
Repentance, mortification and reparation are perfectly admissable 365 days a year.
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Yes, but one is not supposed to fast on Sundays or solemnities. St. Nicholas day is a very big day in some Eastern Catholic churches because he is considered a major patron of their whole church. Mary’s Eastern Catholic church actually relaxes the normal fast they do for Advent for St. Nicholas day, as she stated fish was permitted on that day (and that she was already not feeling too well from fasting all week).

We need to be cognizant of the differences between EC and RC practice on some of these matters. Like I said, this Friday fast day seems to have been picked because it is First Friday devotion to the Sacred Heart in the Latin Church. The ECs have a different focus on this day.
 
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Emeraldlady said:
I would be more inclined to suggest making reparation for all forms of idolatry rather than being specific to what is perceived happened with the synod figures. The New Testament regards idolatry in our times to be greed and selfishness which are what are causing so much exploitation of people and the earth. Don’t be like the Pharisees who could never see their own sins and were hell bent on destroying Jesus because He threatened their authority and their comfortable lives.
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I agree. I don’t like the way the Vatican handled the Pachamama thing from beginning to end. But then we all know that PR and strategically thinking through the ramifications of random actions has never been something that the Vatican has ever handled particularly well. But this is not the biggest or most serious matter facing the Catholic Church or the Faithful today. Let’s not lose the perspective and let us resist letting these matters divide us.
 
Elias said:
I’m terribly sorry that you have a hard time understanding scripture, but Moses makes it pretty clear not to sully your tounge with the names of demons. Look, if you want to be nice to the demons you can, but rest assured they will not be nice to you.
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If we are going to become that level of fundamentalist, never say the words “Wednesday” or “Saturday” As they are named for Woden and for Saturn. Never say the words of the planets, nor of many astrological objects. That is only the beginning!
 
He did it, because it is a fertily “goddess” that some worship as their mother. He is being respectful to the Blessed Virgin Mary who is the true mother of God. Yes he was putting some snarky attitude on it, which i would say look to old testament prophets on idol worship, they get pretty snarky too.
 
catholic03 said:
You have said this before. May I kindly ask, with respect, what exactly you mean.
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I responded to you in what I believed was a factual way showing Web sources, but it appears someone took offense and my posts including the discussion of public Internet references were flagged and removed. Therefore, I would suggest that if you wish to understand the term, you do a Google search including image search. I did not invent the term describing this Pope, and it is used by many, often not even in a pejorative manner (some people think it’s a compliment), but apparently it is a verboten subject on this forum, although I see it as factual and not disrespectful.
 
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TheLittleLady said:
If we are going to become that level of fundamentalist, never say the words “Wednesday” or “Saturday” As they are named for Woden and for Saturn. Never say the words of the planets, nor of many astrological objects. That is only the beginning!
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And Thursday and Friday are named after Thor and Freya.
Several months of the calendar are also named after deities, or people who proclaimed themselves to be such, as are many places and geographical features across the world.
 
That is a fallacy of Appeal to the extreme. On this argument you can say the old testament prophets were “fundamentalist”, early Church Matrys who died because they wouldn’t bow to pagan gods.
Even if one took the position that they didnt mean to worship the idol, they dressed in their priestly robes and had a pagan liturgy practice. Which gave the appearance to the faithful that this is acceptable. When one shows sin is acceptable to other, thwy are doing the sin of scandal.
Wasnt like they when to a Opera that had pagan culture in it. They also placed the idol afront of the tablenacle and tried to take glory away from the Blessed Sacrament. The Blessed Sacrament is the apex of the faith. So this is a great sin that shouldn’t be copied in any church building.
 
Really you didn’t see all the news stories. Ok:


Hate to show it but here is the image without story. See the altar in the background with the tablenackle in the background as well.
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This is one of the idols that was taken out of a church and thrown in the tiber. For it to be taken out of church it has to be in it first.
 
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Really if you can’t see the idol in the center you are trying not to see it. Also the Highn altar is behind it so one can say that the Idol is afront of the tablenackle, whats in tablenackle (the Blessed Sacrament). Therefore my statement that pagan idol afront of the Blessed Sacrament is correct.
 
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I am not seeing a tabernacle light in that photo, it is reasonable to take that to indicate that the Blessed Sacrament was not reposed. The Sacrament is removed from the tabernacle for various events in every Church.
 
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