Tony Blair wants the Pope to rethink his line on homosexuality

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Tony Blair wants the Pope to rethink his line on homosexuality. What about Blair’s line on abortion?
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Tony Blair has given an interview to the gay magazine Attitude in which he calls for Pope Benedict to rethink the Church’s “entrenched” attitude on homosexuality. Well, the Pope would rather like Mr Blair to rethink his entrenched support for abortion, but he hasn’t done so, has he?
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And, again, I may have missed this, but I have yet to read an interview with Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O’Connor in which the (thankfully) soon-to-be-former leader of Catholics in England and Wales attacks the shocking track record of the man he received into the Church.
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On the contrary: the Cardinal is rumoured to be planning to take up some sort of advisory position with Tony Blair’s revoltingly PC Faith Foundation. That’s in the former PM’s gift, presumably. A peerage for CMOC is in the gift of the current PM.
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Well, Mr Blair seems to have found his way to the cafeteria, but who can blame him – he probably sees the same thing from all his fellow Catholics.

It is funny though to see the Church’s teachings (not “attitudes”) described as “entrenched”. That’s the whole point, no?
 
It’s not the Pope’s to decide. Christ spoke quiet clearly on the subject.

I hate the attitude that seems to be that the Church has to “get with the times”. God’s laws stand throughout time, not just when they’re in fashion or when society cares to acknowledge them. :rolleyes:
 
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Well, Mr Blair seems to have found his way to the cafeteria, but who can blame him – he probably sees the same thing from all his fellow Catholics.

It is funny though to see the Church’s teachings (not “attitudes”) described as “entrenched”. That’s the whole point, no?
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Mr. Blair, were you lying when you agreed to accept the teachings of the Church?
 
autumn_nights said:
It’s not the Pope’s to decide. Christ spoke quiet clearly on the subject.

I hate the attitude that seems to be that the Church has to “get with the times”. God’s laws stand throughout time, not just when they’re in fashion or when society cares to acknowledge them. :rolleyes:
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When he converted, weren’t we all waiting for the other shoe to drop?
 
autumn_nights said:
It’s not the Pope’s to decide. Christ spoke quiet clearly on the subject.

I hate the attitude that seems to be that the Church has to “get with the times”. God’s laws stand throughout time, not just when they’re in fashion or when society cares to acknowledge them. :rolleyes:
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I agree with the sentiment that the Church has no need to “get with the times.” It’s job is to “get us with God” not to “get with the times.” However, you note that Jesus spoke clearly on the subject. Can you point me toward the passages you are referring to. My Catechism footnotes passages from Genesis, Romans, 1 Corinthians and Timothy. So if there is also a passage in of the Gospels, I would like to know about it. I take Church teaching as definitive, and there is no ambiguity in the Catechism’s interpretation of these passages, I just want to be as well armed as possible for future discussions, since most today seem to believe the practice of Homosexuality is a “choice” (that word again) and not a sin. Thanks in advance for any help.
God Bless,
Prof. K
 
It will forever escapes me that so many people – including uneducated Catholics – do not understand the posistion and authority of the pope in the Church. He cannot subvert the Will of God and the teachings of Christ. Least not to satisfy “the times”!

Regards,
Jon Paul
 
I’m not even Catholic but I agree with your pope…The worlds standard ust doesn’t understand the scriptures and the way of life it promotes…We know the words of Jesus lead to life…We also know where following the god of this world leads…
 
I believe that homosexuality is a disorder,just as the Church teaches.

I simply am waiting for a cure for homosexuality to pop out of pharmaceutical research.

There was an article in a science magazine that I got in the mail today, about how these rats with identical genes develop differently as a result of maternal diet during gestation.

Homosexuality occurs around the world and was well-known in the oldest biblical times. I conclude that it is very easy to develop homosexuality, but science is simply not looking at the real causes.

Scientists, in contrast, now have the genetic makeup of all the viruses that cause the common cold. Research into fetal development has to reach that level, and even deeper, below the molecular level, to figure out where the treatment and cure for homosexuality may be.

It is not less pressure from the Church which is needed to get there, it is to maintain a constant pressure on science (quite a role reversal) to do its job in eliminating this disorder.
 
Great, another rotten cafeteria catholic who makes the Catholic Church look bad…:mad:
 
Crumpy said:
I believe that homosexuality is a disorder,just as the Church teaches.

I simply am waiting for a cure for homosexuality to pop out of pharmaceutical research.

There was an article in a science magazine that I got in the mail today, about how these rats with identical genes develop differently as a result of maternal diet during gestation.

Homosexuality occurs around the world and was well-known in the oldest biblical times. I conclude that it is very easy to develop homosexuality, but science is simply not looking at the real causes.

Scientists, in contrast, now have the genetic makeup of all the viruses that cause the common cold. Research into fetal development has to reach that level, and even deeper, below the molecular level, to figure out where the treatment and cure for homosexuality may be.

It is not less pressure from the Church which is needed to get there, it is to maintain a constant pressure on science (quite a role reversal) to do its job in eliminating this disorder.
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My self… personally I am leaning towards homosexuality being a spiritual infliction that cannot be cured by scientific measures. I do not think there will ever be a “cure” for homosexuality except through love and devotion to God.

Though I am open to the idea that science may provide an answer to the problem… but I wont hold my breath.

Regards,
Jon Paul
 
Jon_Paul said:
My self… personally I am leaning towards homosexuality being a spiritual infliction that cannot be cured by scientific measures. I do not think there will ever be a “cure” for homosexuality except through love and devotion to God.

Though I am open to the idea that science may provide an answer to the problem… but I wont hold my breath.

Regards,
Jon Paul
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I heartily agree…
 
I guess we all have had the occasion of wanting “the pope” or someone in charge to make
some adjustments so that we have less of a conscience problem. What Jesus said (in Aramaic, no less) 2000+ years ago is often less than crystal clear when you read the
quotation in the Good Book today (remember playing “telephone” as a kid?). But one of the things He did say clearly was the bit about binding and loosing which brings us closer to the present. Hence, the importance of Papa and the other todays’ apostles.
When these bishops are contradicting each other, then ‘The Pope’ has to settle their hash.
And when he has spoken ‘from the chair’ all of us need to be listening carefully. Until then we can put in our two cents worth as is Mr Blair, it would seem.
In the meanwhile I would urge Blair and the other confused multitudes to check out what
the Catholic Medical Society says about homosexuality and homosexuals. It is as close to ‘scientific’ reality as we can get at this time.
And Mrs Pelosi will help you with the abortion issue; she finally got her instructions straight.
 
didymus said:
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Well, Mr Blair seems to have found his way to the cafeteria, but who can blame him – he probably sees the same thing from all his fellow Catholics.

It is funny though to see the Church’s teachings (not “attitudes”) described as “entrenched”. That’s the whole point, no?
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Who catechized this man? I mean how can a seemingly intelligent man of his standing actually think what is reported he thinks? Now, he can reject Church teaching but it seems he thinks the Pope simply makes this stuff up.
 
I’m waiting for Tony Blair to re-think his line on Catholicism.
 
Sheesh! I hate it when people call it the “Pope’s opinion”. As if each Pope can make new rules . . .
 
Speaking to the gay magazine Attitude, the former Prime Minister, himself now a Roman Catholic, said that he wanted to urge religious figures everywhere to reinterpret their religious texts to see them as metaphorical, not literal, and suggested that in time this would make all religious groups accept gay people as equals…

Riggghhhtttt…:rolleyes:
 
Not that I’m judging but when I see people who call themselves christians make comments like this “lukewarm” come to mind…Do they really study the sacred scriptures…Talk about a great deception…
 
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