Too much tradition...... (again)

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          Sunday, December 24, 2006
 
 
                                                                                                                                                                            Manny Lopez
Too much tradition may be what ails ‘Christmas Catholics’
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                                                                                                                                             **C** hristmas Catholics heading to Mass today might need to use a GPS street finder to get to the church on time, but cut 'em some slack.
The Catholic Mass, after all, iswhat it used to be and if you’ve grown up singing and kneeling and listening to marginally relevant messages delivered from the altar, it’s sometimes hard to muster the interest to go every Sunday.
And for many, it will be made worse today and tomorrow when they’re admonished by priests for their slacker attendance record. Though some of the abuse is warranted, it certainly doesn’t endear those who’ve strayed from the Church to return anytime soon.
Not all priests will be as bold as one of the priests I grew up with who snidely remarked at the beginning of Christmas Mass that he was happy to see everyone at church, “even those who I’ve never seen before, or at least since Easter.”

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For someone that is a professional editorial writer, I find the piece to be disjointed and lacking in focus. I’m also not sure what “tradition” he is against; the real tradition that is making a comeback or the sugary-sweet types of things of the last 30+ years that go on now during the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.

Bottom line is that holiness attracts.
 
chotock said:
He isn’t being serious is he? :rolleyes:
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The pity of it is that he is being serious.
There is a letter writing campaign going on from our parish’s Homeschooling group trying to set him straight.

Our young adults are the model of Catholc. Most of them come from large families and treat the little ones with respect.
They attend Holy Mass every Sunday and Holy Day, go to confession regularly and are involved in Catholic causes.
It is more likely than not that our teens have Pro-Life tee-shirts and chastity rings. Many are homeschooled and those who are not, do not hide the fact that they are Catholic.

Whether our young men are serving the Altar or our young women are singing Latin on Wednesday morning, we do not lack the teens in our parish.

And all of this with an EWTN type Holy Mass, May Crowning, Corpus Christi and a Rosary to start each Holy Mass.

Maybe instead of the party atmosphere, young people are looking to be treated as adults and not told what’s “hip” by a bunch of 50 year old women who “feel it”.
 
That was a rather pathetic opinion embedded in an equally pathetic opinion piece. He spoke of those who adhere to the faith while hardly practicing what is preached, so he must be referring to a large crop of individuals who believe they’re headed for hell, believing as they must that failing to practice the faith is gravely immoral.

How long, O Lord?..
 
netmil(name removed by moderator) said:
The pity of it is that he is being serious.
There is a letter writing campaign going on from our parish’s Homeschooling group trying to set him straight.

Our young adults are the model of Catholc. Most of them come from large families and treat the little ones with respect.
They attend Holy Mass every Sunday and Holy Day, go to confession regularly and are involved in Catholic causes.
It is more likely than not that our teens have Pro-Life tee-shirts and chastity rings. Many are homeschooled and those who are not, do not hide the fact that they are Catholic.

Whether our young men are serving the Altar or our young women are singing Latin on Wednesday morning, we do not lack the teens in our parish.

And all of this with an EWTN type Holy Mass, May Crowning, Corpus Christi and a Rosary to start each Holy Mass.

Maybe instead of the party atmosphere, young people are looking to be treated as adults and not told what’s “hip” by a bunch of 50 year old women who “feel it”.
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for what it’s worth, i sent him an email. as a Detroiter, i felt the need to let him know that good Catholics still exist.
 
Quote from the article:
Show me a young Catholic who a) attends Mass every Sunday and on Holy Days of Obligation, b) abstains from sex until marriage, and c) avoids meat religiously, so to speak, during Lent, and I’ll show you someone who also needs to attend confession a little more often.

What does this mean? I really don’t understand the point of this paragraph, much less the point of this whole article??!!

Explain it to me like I’m a 5 year old.
 
Indeed pathetic, from what little I read.

No wonder I don’t read the newspapers any more.

God Bless all those who write in.
 
mommyof4 said:
Quote from the article:
Show me a young Catholic who a) attends Mass every Sunday and on Holy Days of Obligation, b) abstains from sex until marriage, and c) avoids meat religiously, so to speak, during Lent, and I’ll show you someone who also needs to attend confession a little more often.

What does this mean? I really don’t understand the point of this paragraph, much less the point of this whole article??!!

Explain it to me like I’m a 5 year old.
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Since I read that last evening—I have not made sense of that either.
 
mommyof4 said:
Quote from the article:
Show me a young Catholic who a) attends Mass every Sunday and on Holy Days of Obligation, b) abstains from sex until marriage, and c) avoids meat religiously, so to speak, during Lent, and I’ll show you someone who also needs to attend confession a little more often.

What does this mean? I really don’t understand the point of this paragraph, much less the point of this whole article??!!

Explain it to me like I’m a 5 year old.
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I don’t understand it, either. Maybe it wasn’t supposed to make sense.

Why would someone who is following all the laws of the Church have to go to Confession more frequently? (They probably go more often than he does, anyways.) :confused: :ehh:
 
February said:
for what it’s worth, i sent him an email. as a Detroiter, i felt the need to let him know that good Catholics still exist.
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Good for you!!
I am too old for the age group and I am hoping that many teen and young adults give him a piece of their minds.
 
mommyof4 said:
Quote from the article:
Show me a young Catholic who a) attends Mass every Sunday and on Holy Days of Obligation, b) abstains from sex until marriage, and c) avoids meat religiously, so to speak, during Lent, and I’ll show you someone who also needs to attend confession a little more often.

What does this mean? I really don’t understand the point of this paragraph, much less the point of this whole article??!!

Explain it to me like I’m a 5 year old.
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I think he is accusing them of lying.
 
…A friend reminds me that such things exist already – in the Episcopal Church, which another friend and Episcopalian minister calls “Catholic Light.”…
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:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Okay, I was keeping it pretty well together til that sentence! Nearly spit out my tea. Didn’t realize the Episcopal services I used to attend were perfection defined!
 
That article doesn’t make any sense to me.

The comment about confession is really off the wall.

The way this article is written, it is virtually impossible to know what it is he is actually complaining about, much less what he thinks should be done.

I hope he doesn’t think that priests should adopt his editorial style as part of their homilies etc, because then we will have an even worse attendance problem.
 
Stu said:
For someone that is a professional editorial writer, I find the piece to be disjointed and lacking in focus. I’m also not sure what “tradition” he is against; the real tradition that is making a comeback or the sugary-sweet types of things of the last 30+ years that go on now during the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.

Bottom line is that holiness attracts.
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That’s exactly what I thought. :confused:
 
Wow, He doesn’t know my kids!!! They most certainly go to mass on Sundays and Holy Days, abstain from sexual relations, and meat (during lent) and go to confession. Mind you they aren’t perfect by any means, but to basically call them liars… I think kids now are more devout then when I was their age.

Episcopal Light huh… Whats that? More Permissive, Less Guilt? Because I know Lutheran Mo synod is More Music, Less Guilt.

After clicking on the link and reading the piece, I have to agree with other posters, he isn’t the best writer I have read.

Neil’s Mom…that was an awesome letter!!! Reminded me of the 2 I still have in HS. One goes to Catholic HS and is in prolife club, does charity work, etc… The other goes to public school and has done everything BUT shy away from his Catholicity… He asked to start a Christian Skateboarding Club, argues with students and teachers in class about not only current issues like abortion and birth control, but also doctrinal things as well. I have gotten the calls from the principal to confirm it… My fav was when my son corrected the principal about something to do with the faith (yep, principal of public hs is Catholic)… Principal had called me to tell me that son was being punished for doing X but not for correcting him because he knew my son would think he was being punished for correcting him. Then he called back to tell me that ds actually admitted to doing x and he was surprized that he first admitted it, then came to the office for his punishment without being forced… I told him (after I stopped laughing) it was best to take ds at face value, he is honest to a fault, but not always tactful.
 
BlestOne said:
Wow, He doesn’t know my kids!!! They most certainly go to mass on Sundays and Holy Days, abstain from sexual relations, and meat (during lent) and go to confession. Mind you they aren’t perfect by any means, but to basically call them liars… I think kids now are more devout then when I was their age.

Episcopal Light huh… Whats that? More Permissive, Less Guilt? Because I know Lutheran Mo synod is More Music, Less Guilt.

After clicking on the link and reading the piece, I have to agree with other posters, he isn’t the best writer I have read.

Neil’s Mom…that was an awesome letter!!! Reminded me of the 2 I still have in HS. One goes to Catholic HS and is in prolife club, does charity work, etc… The other goes to public school and has done everything BUT shy away from his Catholicity… He asked to start a Christian Skateboarding Club, argues with students and teachers in class about not only current issues like abortion and birth control, but also doctrinal things as well. I have gotten the calls from the principal to confirm it… My fav was when my son corrected the principal about something to do with the faith (yep, principal of public hs is Catholic)… Principal had called me to tell me that son was being punished for doing X but not for correcting him because he knew my son would think he was being punished for correcting him. Then he called back to tell me that ds actually admitted to doing x and he was surprized that he first admitted it, then came to the office for his punishment without being forced… I told him (after I stopped laughing) it was best to take ds at face value, he is honest to a fault, but not always tactful.
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Sounds like great kids!
 
BlestOne said:
Episcopal Light huh… Whats that? More Permissive, Less Guilt? Because I know Lutheran Mo synod is More Music, Less Guilt.
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funny… around here, the LCMS congregations are often more Catholic than our Catholic parishes :o
 
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