Too Noisy in Church -- Spread This Around

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Do you find it too noisy in church before, during and after Mass? Spread this saying around, perhaps get it placed in your parish bulletin and it might catch on:

Before Mass, talk to God. During Mass, let God talk to you. After Mass, talk to your neighbor.
 
The inside of my church, before Mass, is the LAST place I would go to pray. It sounds like an auditorium before the movie begins. Please take it outside people!!
 
I should have added this to the end of my original post: our parish actually published this saying in its weekly bulletin a few years back. After a number of weeks things became noticeably quieter – before, during and after Mass.
 
Before Mass, talk to God. During Mass, let God talk to you. After Mass, talk to your neighbor.
At my parish on Sundays … the time “After Mass” for some parishioners equals the time “Before Mass” for others …

and we actually have people arriving before the end of Mass - entering the Church and beginning to pray … preparing for their Mass … they dislike the ending processional hymn - can’t we just hurry up and get out ‘quietly’ - and let them be alone with God? :rolleyes:

Don’t get me wrong - I understand reverence and piety, quiet times full of prayer …

But have you ever thought about King David? … David, prayed in quiet but david also sang songs and played instruments before the Lord. David danced naked with joy before the Lord …

When people around me are greeting fellow parishioners before Mass, I offer prayers for them and their joy in freindships and community - their ability to greet others as they would Christ …

When children play and make noise, I give thanks to God for their lives, created in the image and likeness of God - the same God who called each of them by name in their mother’'s womb, wonderfully made …

When the elderly cough and speak loadly due to hering loss or get confused aboiut where we are in the Mass, I give thanks to God for their lives lived as a witness to the love of God, for the contributions they gave to their faith and their communities …

When I am distractedin prayer - I ask God to give my prayers purpose and focus and the grace to be one with Him …
 
🙂 I like your attitude, YADA!!! Thanks! 🙂
Thanks I have had some great priests who taught me well …

For example: In December - we had a couple of Grand kids [age 2 and 1 years repectively] … we were at a church we attend often but not our home parish exactly …

The 2 year old said as the first reading began “I have to go potty” … now we did not exactly know where the restroom was … it is behind the sanctuary - somewhere … and a disabled choir member usually makes the trip across the church from the choir loft and through a door to what we always figured was the way to a restroom in the back. He did so just as she made this announcement … We looked at each other - whispered that we would wait for his return [in case there was only one] …

He made his return as Father began the homily … I stood up to take her [out the back door and around to an outside door we see from the parking lot] and the 1 year old banged his head on the pew and let out a scream of pain …

Father said to me as I am leaving “Don’t take the baby out!” … I stopped turn to look at him [all eyes turn to us] … “Uh, Father, we’ll be right back, she just has to use the rstroom” … quiet laughter from the pews … We leave …

Meanwhile, little Brother is crying and sees his sister leaving screams louder … Spouse stands up to take him out and Father says “Don’t take the baby out!” … reponse “We won’t go far - just to the back until he stops - I pormise” …

I return with grand daughter … grandson is quietly in the pew …

After Mass, many loving people come up …

“What wonderful children”

“Beautiful kids”

“I remeber those days”

“We’ve all been there”

“Thanks for bringing the little ones”

Not a mean nor uncharitable remark … this priest loves his flock, the people are very kind and accepting - they are people who see Christ in all people and therefore mirror Christ in themselves … it is in their actions and interactions …

Not in the solitary head bent in personal piety and prayer … I have often wondered if that was the prayer pious solitary prayer - that Jesus meant we should take into the prayer closet - alone - and unseen … ???
 
It’s amazing how some parishioners treat being in church like being in a social hall. I was taught if you enter church before mass you are supposed to be quite until mass starts. It’s ok to converse before mass but you should keep your voice to a whisper level. If you arrive early, you might as well pray or make yourself useful some other way. When mass has ended and you’re done singing the closing hymnal you should exit the church as quietly as you came in. Again, if you need to converse keep it to a whisper.

There are people who like to pray before and after mass. Truthfully, if it’s gets too noisy the pastor or deacon should really say something to the parishioners. If you want to talk to you neighbor in your normal tone of voice, talk to him/her outside or in the social hall if your church has one. After all, you are in God’s house not your own. 🙂
 
I never intended to post on this forum when I signed up, but I just need to rant (a little…maybe a lot). I love daily Mass because the few folks who attend appear to be there for the “right” reasons. It’s respectful (everyone physically able genuflects reverently when appropriate. puts the kneelers down quietly and turns off their cell phones, etc.). My rant is this: Are priests so afraid that people won’t come to Mass if they enforce some basic rules of dress and etiquette or do they truly not care that folks are so irreverent (and just happy that they are physically there )?

I attended a healing prayer service the other night at a parish that was not my own (mine is fairly wonderful compared to what I experienced at this church!). People were actually answering their phones, arriving REALLY late and LOOKING FOR SEATS DOWN FRONT, flipping their flip flops up and down the aisles, baring their bare shoulders when they moved their big designer hair away, cutting the line for the healing part of the service…I KNOW I sound like a reformed smoker…I’ve been away from the church for 30 years and have joyfully returned a few months ago. What happened since 1980? Are we at least heading back in the right direction? I need a little hope or some direction on how to help the uninformed about such matters. I am learning to block out the distractions–perhaps that is the lesson I needed to learn but it is all so sad to me. Thank you!
 
I agree with you that the type of clothing that is worn at Mass is a disagrace. I went to a Church where fliers about the proper attire to wear at Mass were sitting on a table near the entrance. They should have been inserted into the bulletin. I believe that there is a fear among priests that people will get mad and not come back. I totally disagree. If it makes you feel better, a protestant friend told me that he was shocked at how many people at his worship service wear shorts and T-shirts, so apparently it is not just in the Catholic Church.
 
I find it so sad when I see people answering their phones during mass or I’ve seen teens texting…I don’t understand why they go to mass at all…😦
 
What happened since 1980? Are we at least heading back in the right direction?
Nope. We’re progressively moving further away, in fact. Without authority figures to brainwash them, children and teens now realize that things are not valuable merely because they are traditional. Sorry, but relativity wins in the end, my friend.
I need a little hope or some direction on how to help the uninformed about such matters.
Who are you to instruct others on how to worship? What if the teens did leave because someone like you ticked them off? It would be rather ironic if God asks you, after death, “Why did you send others away from me? HELLFIRE FOR YOU!” 😛
 
I agree with you that the type of clothing that is worn at Mass is a disagrace. I went to a Church where fliers about the proper attire to wear at Mass were sitting on a table near the entrance. They should have been inserted into the bulletin. I believe that there is a fear among priests that people will get mad and not come back. I totally disagree. If it makes you feel better, a protestant friend told me that he was shocked at how many people at his worship service wear shorts and T-shirts, so apparently it is not just in the Catholic Church.
I much agree with the above. Last weekend the pastor of the parish I attend did place a notice in the bulletin reminding parishioners of appropriate attire for mass, given that summer is here - ie, no tank tops, bathing suit coverups, cut offs, etc. Sad that the pastor has to post such a notice. I grew up in the 70’s and wouldn’t of thought about wearing jeans, shorts, tank tops, athletic wear, etc. to mass. My Mother always took note of what I was wearing and would not of allowed me out the door inappropriately dressed, which seldom happened anyways.

Recently went to a Sunday 5PM mass that I didn’t realize ahead of time was the confirmation mass. I doubt that half of those in attendance had been in a church before. Not only were some dressed inappropriately, the behavior left much to be desired. One women was dressed in short shorts and ran up and down the aisle taking pics. Much talking. The kid sitting in front of me was continually jumping up and down and touching others - I sense he has some developmental delays and his mother really was trying to calm him. Her efforts were unsuccessful and he became more and more disruptive. I am embarressed to say, but after 45 minutes and during confirmation, I got up and left - something that I have never, ever done before.
 
I much agree with the above. Last weekend the pastor of the parish I attend did place a notice in the bulletin reminding parishioners of appropriate attire for mass, given that summer is here - ie, no tank tops, bathing suit coverups, cut offs, etc. Sad that the pastor has to post such a notice. I grew up in the 70’s and wouldn’t of thought about wearing jeans, shorts, tank tops, athletic wear, etc. to mass. My Mother always took note of what I was wearing and would not of allowed me out the door inappropriately dressed, which seldom happened anyways.
That wasn’t much past the time, though, when our family wouldn’t go to a grocery store, much less a department store, in clothes that were less than what is now termed “dress casual.” Do you remember, too, that there was a time when wearing athletic wear onto a plane or train was shocking? So standards have slipped, in general. There are a lot of young boys who don’t own a pair of dress shoes, and not many stores where any can be found, except for girls.
Recently went to a Sunday 5PM mass that I didn’t realize ahead of time was the confirmation mass. I doubt that half of those in attendance had been in a church before. Not only were some dressed inappropriately, the behavior left much to be desired. One women was dressed in short shorts and ran up and down the aisle taking pics. Much talking. The kid sitting in front of me was continually jumping up and down and touching others - I sense he has some developmental delays and his mother really was trying to calm him. Her efforts were unsuccessful and he became more and more disruptive. I am embarressed to say, but after 45 minutes and during confirmation, I got up and left - something that I have never, ever done before.
There was a time, too, when Catholic kids had few, if any, non-Catholic friends. Setting foot in each others’ churches was a rarity. It is a whole new world.

As for the OP’s point, I think it is time to crack down on cell-phone use and text-messaging in general. The level of rudeness in ignoring people you are actually with in order to exchange trivial communiques with people not present has gotten entirely out of hand. That one would do this during a sacred ritual, even someone else’s sacred ritual that you are just witnessing as a bystander, is completely over the top.

If at family gatherings for church, restaurants, and the family dinner table you expect that electronic communications are forbidden for everyone present during those times, excepting those on call for a medical emergency, you’ll do everyone in the world a favor.

But yes, we have to hope people are doing the best they remember how, and try not to be distracted by it. When it is our place and the time, we admonish; when it is not, we patiently endure. (Not that there isn’t a time to just walk out, too…that is a form of admonishment that is sometimes called for and even at other times the most charitable option that we can manage. We can only do our best, too.)
 
At my parish there is a sign outside just before entering the church that shows people (just characters) of women and men with what the appropriate clothing is to wear. It shows the length of dress, no shorts etc.

After Mass right before the recessional Father announced that women need to dress more appropriately during Mass. Most everyone wears appropriate clothing, but there must have been many women wearing short tops last Sunday.

Also before Mass the announcer reminds everyone to turn off their cell phones.

He had a very strong sermon about what a husband’s roles is as a husband and as a father in the family. I am sure some people were not happy with his view, but I saw that it was relevant in today’s world. He also said that he as the Father of the parish shoud be the best father he could be. He is a humble priest, but he does expect the congregation to be reverent while in church.

Father doesn’t mince words and I like that. He is very kind and everyone loves him.

Yours in the Hearts of Jesus and Mary

Bernadette
 
Those times my parents take me, (rare, unfortunatly.) I wear a nice shirt and the nicest pair of jeans I have, I dress fanicer than usual. I’m not sure if I have dress clothes that fit me anymore.
 
That reminds me of my father lining us all up, oldest to youngest, to be inspected before heading out to church 🙂 I think I’ll start doing that with mine.
 
Nope. We’re progressively moving further away, in fact. Without authority figures to brainwash them, children and teens now realize that things are not valuable merely because they are traditional. Sorry, but relativity wins in the end, my friend.

Who are you to instruct others on how to worship? What if the teens did leave because someone like you ticked them off? It would be rather ironic if God asks you, after death, “Why did you send others away from me? HELLFIRE FOR YOU!” 😛
Good point! That would be ironic–but my intentions are pure…My thoughts on offering to help someone (not necessarily instruction) stem from my belief that people are often not aware of what is proper. I heard a story recently on an EWTN Mother Angelica rerun of someone telling a Eucharistic Minister that her attire wasn’t proper. She had no idea that it was not, was very grateful for the information, and never dressed improperly again. I’m still searching for what my role is in my parish and what the boundaries are for offering “help” like this. It is quite possible that I’m totally out of line thinking I should ever approach a fellow parishioner. And, I deserve the hellfire so I’d be o.k. with that!
 
Where I attend Divine Liturgy there is an unusually large number of babies in arms and toddlers.

Result–there’s a constant undercurrent of soft cooing, gurgling, and jabbering all during Liturgy.

I don’t mind. These are the future of the Church.
 
Perhaps the role some of us need to take is in teaching CCD or helping with the youth group. Then you are a known figure to the teens and can speak to them more approriately about how they dress for Mass and conduct themselves while there.

I have talked to some of my students over the years about what to wear to church (no belly baring tops, no low-slung pants, etc.). But as another poster said our culture in general has become much, much more casual and it may be the parents think what the kids are wearing is fine, or perhaps they don’t want to fight that battle.

I will say that finding dress clothes for pre-teen boys is difficult. Evem just a simple dark pair of dress slacks and shoes was hard to find for my son because he was too big for the little boy clothes but not a men’s size yet. I was shopping in ordinary stores (not uniform stores or very expensive places) and really had to search.

“Dress-up” clothes for girls are easier to find, but again there is an age/size gap where appropriate things are difficult to find. It seems that once you move up to the jr department, all dresses are slinky ‘cocktail’ style or beachy sundresses. Again, I took the time to search around and found appropriate things for my daughter, but I can see why many girls are dressed they way they are–that is what is out in the stores!
 
Perhaps the role some of us need to take is in teaching CCD or helping with the youth group. Then you are a known figure to the teens and can speak to them more approriately about how they dress for Mass and conduct themselves while there.

I have talked to some of my students over the years about what to wear to church (no belly baring tops, no low-slung pants, etc.). But as another poster said our culture in general has become much, much more casual and it may be the parents think what the kids are wearing is fine, or perhaps they don’t want to fight that battle.

I will say that finding dress clothes for pre-teen boys is difficult. Evem just a simple dark pair of dress slacks and shoes was hard to find for my son because he was too big for the little boy clothes but not a men’s size yet. I was shopping in ordinary stores (not uniform stores or very expensive places) and really had to search.

“Dress-up” clothes for girls are easier to find, but again there is an age/size gap where appropriate things are difficult to find. It seems that once you move up to the jr department, all dresses are slinky ‘cocktail’ style or beachy sundresses. Again, I took the time to search around and found appropriate things for my daughter, but I can see why many girls are dressed they way they are–that is what is out in the stores!
And it’s ridiculous.
 
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