Too Young For Makeup

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Are we reading the same thing? He said it’s sinful if you’re trying to incite lust.
 
I started wearing (light) makeup around 15+. Just light ones like mascara, concealer and a bit of lipstick/tint. When I was 16/17, I tried out foundation (though I honestly didn’t need it). After that I was basically trying anything I was interested in.

I didn’t have a mom at that point of my life onwards so it was just my natural progression but it seems reasonable enough?

Imo, 11 years is way too young. Maybe some gloss or something for her lips because it just makes her feel girly or whatever, but I just think it’s too young.

Girls now are being forced to grow up quickly and as I think I’m the last generation-ish to grow up at a decent enough pace, it’s quite sad to see it.
 
Lea101 said:
Imo, 11 years is way too young. Maybe some gloss or something for her lips because it just makes her feel girly or whatever, but I just think it’s too young.
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Yeah, lip gloss is good and age-appropriate.
 
Did you find yourself attracted to your wife initially for her personal grooming .

This could be a toughy with her, if it’s what has been acceptable in her family and dependent on your response to female personal grooming
 
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You might be able to talk your wife and stepdaughter into substituting non-makeup more age-appropriate but still fun stuff. See, for example Claire’s at the mall, or other age appropriate jewelry.

Certain kinds of braiding might be fun, too, and also age appropriate.

Another thing that’s age appropriate is face painting. If you google, there are a lot of kits, and the effect is “fun” and “kid” and “Halloween dress up,” rather than sexy.
 
I am wary about such practice (make up for young children) but acknowledge that some parents indeed do that.
 
I think 11 is too young for lip gloss as well.
Make up isfor older teens and upward. Children should not be trying to look older than they are. It’s a creepy world out there and girls need to look like girls.
 
As a young kid (5 or 6) some of my friends were allowed to use play makeup. I went home with it and was called crude names.

It was just a fun game. It wasn’t serious, and all it did was make me bitter at the adults in my life.

Girls should be allowed to experiment with things. I experimented a ton when I was at friend’s houses and they did. The girls who played freely with makeup never much seemed to care about makeup as teens. It was only those who were forbidden and restricted that ended up going nuts.

I don’t wear makeup. It’s expensive and annoying to me. I learned enough as a small child that it was just silly…but only after tons of time playing with it.
 
Honestly, nail polish bugs me far more than makeup. Good makeup won’t harm the skin, and it’s very highly regulated in America so even the cheaper stuff is decently safe (ie not more than foods Americans ingest anyway).

Nail polish is full of toxic, airborne chemicals and often contain dibutyl phthalate, toluene, and formaldehyde all of which are very, very bad. They can leach into your body through your nails. In most places nail polish cannot be “legally” thrown out with ordinary household waste–even if most people do. There are some with low toxicity ratings but they are incredibly pricey. And unlike makeup which is worn for up to 12 hours a day, nail polish can remain on the body for weeks.

 
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Lea101 said:
Are we reading the same thing? He said it’s sinful if you’re trying to incite lust.
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“Cyprian is speaking of women painting themselves: this is a kind of falsification, which cannot be devoid of sin. Wherefore Augustine says (Ep. ccxlv ad Possid.): ‘To dye oneself with paints in order to have a rosier or a paler complexion is a lying counterfeit. I doubt whether even their husbands are willing to be deceived by it, by whom alone’ (i.e. the husbands) ‘are they to be permitted, but not ordered, to adorn themselves.’”
 
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I doubt whether even their husbands are willing to be deceived by it, by whom alone’ (i.e. the husbands) ‘are they to be permitted, but not ordered, to adorn themselves.’”
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I feel like he could have asked their husbands, if he was so interested…

To this day, a lot of women have husbands who prefer them to wear makeup.
 
Now, how about if a girl’s father think that she ought to wear makeup?
 
Wherefore Augustine says (Ep. ccxlv ad Possid.): “To dye oneself with paints in order to have a rosier or a paler complexion is a lying counterfeit. I doubt whether even their husbands are willing to be deceived by it, by whom alone” (i.e. the husbands) “are they to be permitted, but not ordered, to adorn themselves.”
 
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Wherefore Augustine says (Ep. ccxlv ad Possid.): “To dye oneself with paints in order to have a rosier or a paler complexion is a lying counterfeit. I doubt whether even their husbands are willing to be deceived by it, by whom alone” (i.e. the husbands) “are they to be permitted, but not ordered, to adorn themselves.”
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I suspect Augustine was talking about married women.
 
Yes, his exception to the rule against make up was only for married women.

Husbands have a legitimate interests in their wives being sexually attractive. Fathers of daughters do not . . .
 
At those ages, girls are interested in makeup because it is foreign. If their mother wears it then that’s probably where their interest in it comes from. Them experimenting it would probably be a good thing in my opinion but maybe with some guidance from an adult. I would refrain from banning it because it just makes it more desirable. I don’t know what their intentions are with makeup but if it is just for fun and an artsy, dress-up type of thing, it’s harmless. However, it can easily become harmful if they are wearing it to make them look “prettier”. My parents never banned me from wearing makeup, they just told me how pretty I looked naturally. That deterred me from wearing it until I was thirteen. I think it is very important to build their confidence levels without makeup before allowing a girl to start wearing it.

I would not calculate when a girl should start wearing makeup specifically by age but more so by why. What is the source of their interest in it?
 
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